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Re: The 1962 Missal
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 09:16:02 AM »
Is english your first language?
Is satanism your religion? 

Re: The 1962 Missal
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 09:30:18 AM »
Is satanism your religion?
You are clearly suffering from some kind of paranoia. You think that some woman has set a number of people up on this forum to needlessly harass you.


Are there voices in your head? Are these voices feeding you this information about us?

Is there an exorcist in your parish?

From what we have seen from your posts of the last few days, you need some kind of professional help. 


Re: The 1962 Missal
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 09:56:30 AM »
You are clearly suffering from some kind of paranoia. You think that some woman has set a number of people up on this forum to needlessly harass you.


Are there voices in your head? Are these voices feeding you this information about us?

Is there an exorcist in your parish?

From what we have seen from your posts of the last few days, you need some kind of professional help.
Those accusations began because someone was slandering Thuc's line of priests and dishonestly making the claim that the sacraments were invalid based on the alleged mental problems of Bp Thuc. To which I answered that according to their level of scrutinity, not a single line would be safe.

I became angry at the impertinence of that person, and that person and some idiots have been claiming I am myself mentally unsound because I became angry at the level of intellectual dishonesty I was seeing. Moreover, I do not take kindly to a woman daring to think herself above a priest or Church Doctor. This is getting absolutely ridiculous. 

Now, can you stop wasting my time with this utter nonsense? 





Re: The 1962 Missal
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 07:59:23 PM »
Translation from the French of a Public Handwritten Declaration of Archbishop Lefebvre

COMMUNIQUE

From various sources, I have been told that there is a lot of misinformation circulating in Germany
and German-speaking Switzerland on the subject of the attitude of the Society concerning the Ordo
Missae in use there.
This attitude, they say, was changed at a certain time. In practice, the Ordo of St Pius V and St Pius X
was replaced by that of John XXIII, and this under pressure from certain members of the Society,
contrary to my wishes.
By this public statement, I would like to affirm that this change has never existed. Since its
foundation, the Society has used the 1962 edition of the liturgical books, given that I had adopted
them as soon as they were published in 1962 and that the Society was founded in 1969 and
approved in 1970.
This new edition is not a new Ordo Missae, but a re-edition of the Ordo of St. Pius V and St. Pius X,
with insignificant modifications.
The Calendar then underwent more significant changes, some of which are very welcome and others
questionable.
But for the sake of uniformity within the Fraternity, we decided to conform to the 1962 editions, and
to the Calendar, believing that the advantages outweighed the disadvantages.
This decision has remained unchanged for almost 20 years. In Fribourg, then at Econe, this line of
conduct has been strictly followed.
If, for two or three years, this decision was not applied by some members of the Fraternity, it was
due to personal initiatives contrary to the will of the Founder and the practice of Econe.
But these initiatives have now been suppressed, and liturgical unity is being pursued throughout the
Society. For we rightly believe that the 1962 edition of the Ordo Missae corresponds perfectly to the
Ordo of St. Pius V and of St. Pius X.
To try to establish essential differences between the 1962 edition and the Ordo of St. Pius V and St.
Pius X is to manifest a legalistic and Jansenist mentality.

Econe, 26th of December, 1988
+ Marcel Lefebvre
Founder of the Priestly Fraternity of St Pius X

Re: The 1962 Missal
« Reply #14 on: Today at 12:27:54 AM »
Bishop Williamson never said anything negative ever once in public or private about priests who said the pre 58.

If a certain group of priests wants to mandate it for their own members, that is their own business.

The link with sedevacantism is spurious.

Archbishop Lefebvre just made the decision to do with that, but it really was not his job to have to decide what missal to "mandate" to others. It was a practical decision obviously for the common good of his Society.

There is not one single quote from the Archbishop speaking negatively about the pre 55 missal. NOT ONE.  Let that sink in folks.

The sudden frowning on it comes from the post 1990s SSPX days. Nowhere else.
April 1983 - Superior General's Letter #24 | Maison Générale https://share.google/d4Q3K9LLZnF90C8vj

The Archbishop would not speak negatively of the pre 55 liturgy but he spoke negatively of those who chose to reject the obedience to adhere to the legitimacy and use of the 62 liturgy.