Wessex, the point is that most priests don't have time, nor do they care, to worry about such a trivial thing. Those who want to make it more than trivial are creating a theological 'line in the sand' where there has never been one. Therefore they err and cause many, many laity to skip mass and then argue about such petty nonsense as if it was as important as the existence of God. I've seen many, many trad families split up over this issue alone. The division, hate and un-charity caused by this trivial matter is monumental.
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I agree. I've seen many times an otherwise intelligent discussion interrupted by a staunch sedevacantist who chimes in with his staid maxim that the Pope ain't the Pope and the Bishops aren't the Bishops. It squelches the topic of the Collegial Consecration of Russia to the IHM (even while sedes call their new chapel in that name), and robs the Pope and Bishops of all those prayers at every one of their Masses.
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from: Pax Vobis on Tue Jun 27 2017 11:24:05 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
That still leaves A LOT of sede catholics who believe in the 'una cuм' error. Brooksville has a seminary, with +Sanborn, which means they are pumping out priests who are infected with this idiocy. Not to mention that some laity who go to CMRI and SSPV also agree with the error. It's a lot more people than you want to believe.
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I've known several laymen who are vehemently devoted to the sede position, perhaps to the point of dogmatism. It's the one thing that gets them all excited. They seem to be making it their
raison d'etre..
I heard a
loudly proclaimed sermon (the priest usually
mumbles except when on this topic) for the Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul that clings to the coat-tails of a Pontiff's death, pretending to extend that temporary condition to the local bishops all over the world. These sede priests don't pray for the Pope in the Canon of the Mass
but they likewise don't pray for the local bishop, either!!.
The
sede vacante Mass tradition (while the Church waits for the election of the new Pontiff) has never been the opportunity to categorically reject praying for the local Ordinary. And if these sede priests are substituting their own
bishop du jour that only further distinguishes and exemplifies their state of schism..
How are the bishops of the world going to get the graces they need to consecrate Russia to the IHM if Catholics don't pray for them? Try asking a sede priest about this and you'll get their cookie-cutter evasion tactics. If you're persistent, and if they're honest, they eventually have to say that they believe the Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary isn't going to happen.
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Keep in mind, that this is after Our Lady promised that the Consecration will indeed take place. Therefore, either they don't believe Our Lady promised that, or else they think she's a liar.
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This morning on Immaculate Heart Radio, I heard Patrick Madrid answer a letter from a listener who wrote that it's good they've been defending the personhood of unborn babies against the scourge of abortion, but now it's time for IHR to take up the additional banner of defending the sanctity of marriage and chastity against the onslaught of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ perversion, since our bishops and Pope are going entirely flaccid on this problem worldwide. Madrid spent about 5 minutes answering this letter on the air, claiming the excuse that it's not his job to defend Church teachings against the unnatural vice of Sodomy -- "That's the job of our Bishops!"
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So our Bishops need a lot of grace to man up and do what they're supposed to do.
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Therefore Catholics should be praying for our bishops, not omiting their names in the
Te igitur just because the sede crybabies are having their latest temper tantrum.
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