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Title: Fr. Calderón Refutes Bishop Fellay
Post by: coeurvoil on June 16, 2025, 07:25:05 PM

Fr Alvaro Calderon, professor of philosophy and dogmatic theology at the seminary of the SSPX in Buenos Aires and author of several texts of extraordinary quality, such as "La Lámpara Bajo el Celemín" (The Lamp Under the Bushel) and "Prometheus, the Religion of Man," has published a study in the journal "Si, Si, No, No" No. 267,  November 2014, which is entitled "Are the Episcopal Consecrations Reformed by Paul VI Valid?"  Although the main purpose of the article is to respond to the objections of the sedevacantist sectors that oppose the validity of the new rite of episcopal consecration, some seriously erroneous statements made by Bishop Fellay in his never retracted "Doctrinal Declaration (https://thecatacombs.org/showthread.php?tid=298)" of October 2012 are refuted from the point of view of sacramental theology in this study by Fr. Calderón .

Bishop Fellay said in No. 7 of the Doctrinal Declaration:
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"We declare that we recognize the validity of the sacrifice of the Mass and the Sacraments celebrated with the intention to do what the Church does according to the rites indicated in the typical editions of the Roman Missal and the Sacramentary Rituals legitimately promulgated by Popes Paul VI and John-Paul II."

Consequently, the Superior General:

a) Recognizes the validity of all the sacraments reformed by the modernists, provided that they are held with the intention due. There are three components to consider in judging the validity of the sacraments: matter, form and intention of a true minister. Bishop Fellay does not object to anything regarding the matter, nor regarding the form of the Novus Ordo Sacraments, and refers only to the requirement of the necessary intent of the celebrant

However, in the seminaries of the SSPX it has always been taught that there are serious doubts about the validity of various reformed [New/Novus Ordo] Sacraments, due to the changes introduced by the modernists as to the matter, form, or intention. That's why the sound custom of conditionally confirming those confirmed in the Novus Ordo and of conditionally ordaining those priests ordained according to the rite of Paul VI has always existed in the Society. Extreme Unction was always considered as very likely invalid, etc.

b) He states that these sacraments were legitimately promulgated, an ambiguous expression (Does he say that the Sacraments are legitimate or is it only the act of promulgating these that is legitimate?) that has been interpreted by the majority of Catholics as nothing more than an acceptance of the legitimacy of the Sacraments of the Novus Ordo. For the concept of "legitimacy", see here (http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2013/03/de-la-legitimidad-de-la-nueva-misa-en.html).

Well, Fr. Calderon says the contrary: The [New] Rite of Episcopal Consecration (which is sacramental) is "certainly illegitimate" and "probably valid" (noting that "there is no certainty of its validity").

Here are the essential quotes:



Title: Re: Fr. Calderón Refutes Bishop Fellay
Post by: Giovanni Berto on June 16, 2025, 09:03:06 PM
Sure, great words, but both Fr. Calderon and Bp. Fellay are still there with the Novus Ordo priests. Even better, Fr. Calderon teaches Novus Ordo priests who go to the seminary to do a six-month crash course to become regular SSPX priests. All withouth conditional ordination of course.

He can say as much as he wants, but it seems that not even he believes it.
Title: Re: Fr. Calderón Refutes Bishop Fellay
Post by: TimiosHaima on June 17, 2025, 02:52:41 AM
speaking of Fr Calderon's incisive writings, Does anyone know where one might get a copy of his 3 essays (in english), "The Lamp under the Bushel", "The Paschal Mystery", "The Kingdom of God", prior to Prometheus, the Religion of Man?
Title: Re: Fr. Calderón Refutes Bishop Fellay
Post by: Plenus Venter on June 17, 2025, 07:31:33 PM
Sure, great words, but both Fr. Calderon and Bp. Fellay are still there with the Novus Ordo priests. Even better, Fr. Calderon teaches Novus Ordo priests who go to the seminary to do a six-month crash course to become regular SSPX priests. All withouth conditional ordination of course.

He can say as much as he wants, but it seems that not even he believes it.
Are you absolutely certain of this Giovanni?
Can you provide any evidence or examples?
If you are aware of such doubtful priests it would be good to have a published list for the benefit of the faithful.
Title: Re: Fr. Calderón Refutes Bishop Fellay
Post by: Giovanni Berto on June 17, 2025, 11:49:13 PM
Are you absolutely certain of this Giovanni?
Can you provide any evidence or examples?
If you are aware of such doubtful priests it would be good to have a published list for the benefit of the faithful.

I am not absolutely sure, since conditinal ordinations are almost a masonic secret in the SSPX. I might as well be banned from receiving the sacraments, if I go around asking about it, since I will be seen as a troublemaker, who might disturb the consciences of the poor faithful.

What I do know for sure is that two Brazilian priests who were ordained in the Novus Ordo went and studied for about a year each on the La Reja (Argentina) seminary. After that, they became regular SSPX priests and were received formally into the congregation. Fr. Calderon has been a teacher there for decades. Oh, the irony.

I have already mentioned the names of these priests on this board. Fr. Reinaldo Barbosa and Fr. Fernando Pereira. There is also one certain Fr. Tiago Sancio, who is a "friend of the SSPX", who might join them in the future. This one I am certain that he has received no conditional ordination, since he said it himself to me by e-mail. He showed them his ordinations docuмents, and they said that a conditional ordination was not necessary. So much for the wise words of Fr. Calderon.

There is also an Irish priest, Fr. Aribe O'Reily (or something like that). He is also a Novus Ordo priest who lived in Brazil. He went back to Ireland, to study and join the SSPX, it seems. He will probably come back to haunt us once he is formally admitted.

They all seem to be nice people, and could be good priests if they studied all the seven years in the seminary and received a real ordination, but the leardership is obviously not worried about it.

All the same, I advise everybody to avoid any Novus Ordo priests who were admitted into the SSPX after 2012. There is of course the infamous case of a certain Fr. Stark, which was a factor in "the nine" being expelled from the SSPX way back in the 1980s, so, this is a problem that has existed for decades. You better avoid SSPX Novus Ordo priests altogether until you are certain that have been conditionally ordained.