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Author Topic: Fr. Calderón Refutes Bishop Fellay  (Read 3434 times)

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Re: Fr. Calderón Refutes Bishop Fellay
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 10:39:06 AM »
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  • Coeurvoil, is the text you posted your own, or did you copy it from somewhere else?
    https://brasildogmadafe.blogspot.com/2015/07/fr-calderon-refutes-bishop-fellay.html

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    às sexta-feira, julho 03, 2015 

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    Re: Fr. Calderón Refutes Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 05:49:07 PM »
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  •  With time, the issue becomes the same, as old (pre-conciliar) bishops and priests are almost all dead anyway.
    Absolutely. Every ordination has to be taken as doubtful now if only because of the compounding of doubt through many Conciliar episcopal consecrations and priestly ordinations over a long period. It is surely morally impossible to study all these matters in any given ordination today to remove the doubt. Fr Paul Robinson's pretense that the Neo-SSPX is continuing in the line of Archbishop Lefebvre in this matter is an outright lie.


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    Re: Fr. Calderón Refutes Bishop Fellay
    « Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 05:57:55 PM »
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  • Coeurvoil, is the text you posted your own, or did you copy it from somewhere else?
    Good point, as this statement is simply false: Although the main purpose of the article is to respond to the objections of the sedevacantist sectors that oppose the validity of the new rite of episcopal consecration

    Here is Fr Calderon's introduction to his study: the main purpose is to determine the validity of the New Rite:

    WHETHER THE EPISCOPAL CONSECRATIONS REFORMED BY PAUL VI ARE VALID

    By Fr Alvaro Calderon SSPX
    Translated from the Spanish: Si Si No No, Number 267,  Nov. 2014

    On June 18, 1968, Paul VI promulgated the Apostolic Constitution Pontificalis Romani, by which he approved the new rites for the Ordination of deacon, priest and bishop, reformed according to the principles of the Second Vatican Council. "Fu il primo libro liturgico della reforma ad essere pubblicato" (1). The rituals of the diaconate and the priesthood arise from a more or less general reform of the previous Roman rituals, but that of the episcopate – the nature of which had been especially considered by the Council - is a work that is entirely new and distinct from the previous rite.
    If we take into account the anti-liturgical spirit that dominated the Conciliar reform, the almost heretical doctrine of the collegiality of the episcopate taught by Lumen Gentium, which made the nota previa necessary, and the infirmity which has since affected the exercise of authority in the Church, especially of Her Magisterium, Catholics are justified in being concerned about the validity of this new rite. And this concern borders on anguish when one considers that upon the validity of the episcopate depends the entire sacramental order and the very existence of the Church.
    Asked by those who have the authority to do so, we give our humble opinion on so important a matter, humble not because of our great humility but on account of our little knowledge. As is necessary, we first explain the theological principles on which we rely and then apply them to the concrete case at hand.

    https://www.cathinfo.com/the-library/fr-calderon's-2014-study-on-the-new-rite-of-episcopal-consecration-in-english/msg930376/?topicseen#msg930376