I have no idea where you picked up the bur in your saddle, but you just pretty much have put it over the top with me... so you want to throw me in with the same lot as the neo-SSPXer's? On what grounds? I have no idea of how long you've studied +W, but your opinions are of a malcontent. I've been following the works of the SSPX, along with +W, for probably at least 30yrs. Yes, +W has his faults, just like any other human being, but to throw him in with the same lot as +F and co. is an injustice, IMO. So l guess maybe I'd would really like to know how you can conclude that I've missed the elephant in the room. You have claimed recently that the matters at hand are do to personal sectarian preferences.... I'm beginning to wonder if you aren't guilty of the same, personal sectarian preference of oneself.
I do not believe that I mentioned any one person but as my reply to Wessex has offended you, I will say that I meant not to offend you or anyone else. What I have said is objectively true and accurate. All SSPX groups share the same positions and ideas about what they term as the crisis.
They all conditionally accept the council.
They all conditionally accept the New Order ritual.
They all suspend canonical responsibility for heresy and error from the conciliar popes.
They all adhere to the original R&R formulation and refuse modification according to a changed reality.
In these basic orientations, they are all the same.
The SSPX proper stands apart from them in its willingness to make some way to be regularized by conciliar Rome on compromised principles.
The other dissagree with this and would have more concessions and conditions met by Rome before any arrrangement.
So in this one particular area, they are different.
One must assume that the followers of any of these groups would subscribe to the policies of its leaders which leaves those them in accordance with those leaders. That was the point being discussed.
Bishop Williamson and Bishop Fellay are at odds on the h0Ɩ0h0αx and dealing with Rome, but they both believe in the visionary tales of the SSPX being Divinely singled out in relation to restoring the Church.
Bishop Williamson and Bishop Fellay both believe that the conciliar entity is in fact the Catholic Church.
Here again, they are the same.
On the Bishop himself, he was a greatly respected and loved figure by many, myself include for many years. However since 2014 some things and events which have occurred have caused me to go from unqualified support to cautious support. Realities change, and when they do, one must adapt your view in some manner or you will be following an idealized or false perception of them.
I am no longer tied to any of the above mentioned factions or any others in any concrete way.
I am a partisan of the Catholic Church as She has defined and described Herself. All other loyalties and affections must fall behind that for me.
The burr that is under my saddle, is the concilar Revolution and those who wittingly or unwittingly enable it to continue destroying the Church and Her children. That is the source of my malcontent.
God Bless you St. Ignatius
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