This is an over generalization.  In pointing out whether certain acts and attitudes are unlawful is not challenging the Church's Divine law or mission.
The groups in question have not proposed the suspension of canonicity or its general inapplicability, they in fact recognize the authority under which it is currently applied and so they have no standing, by their own position, to continue selectively defying it.

According to Salus animarum suprema lex.  The salvation of souls is the supreme law the conciliar entity must be considered a schismatic anti-Catholic force within the Church which by all means should be stopped and driven out, not selectively tolerated while it has devastated and lost so many millions of souls and continues to do so every day while preventing the Catholic Church from saving them.

As was said, "you can't have it both ways."

Now if one wants to make the case for suspension of canonicity, so that the religious criminals can be routed out and punished and the Church returned to functionality, then that is a subject worthy of consideration and viable under the greater authority of Salus animarum suprema lex.

If men want to help the Church and Her children they need to start considering the esoteric imperatives over the exoteric laws which stop any meaningful remedy to the Devil's occupying army.  If it is the highest law, then it should be held as such and obeyed before all others, as you have correctly proposed. It is,after all the Divine law, and as such a Divine command.

My apologies.  I forgot the TRUE supreme law of the church:  Outside Sedevacantism there is no salvation.

The reality is that traditional priests, whether sspx or not, have the duty to provide mass and the sacraments and save souls.  Their views on new-rome and its canonical standing as schismatic, modernist, heretical, etc are not as important as saving souls.  Therefore, even though i agree with you that the "official" position of the sspx is hypocritical, there are many priests who are using the group to continue to serve the faithful.

Would it be better if every trad priest regarded new-rome as schismatic?  Yes.  Would it reduce the faithful's need of mass and the sacraments?  Not one bit.

Ergo, your argument is based on idealism, which, while good, solves nothing in the present crisis, other than to 'stir the pot'.

The reality is that traditional priests, whether sspx or not, have the duty to provide mass and the sacraments and save souls.  Their views on new-rome and its canonical standing as schismatic, modernist, heretical, etc are not as important as saving souls.  Therefore, even though i agree with you that the "official" position of the sspx is hypocritical, there are many priests who are using the group to continue to serve the faithful.

Would it be better if every trad priest regarded new-rome as schismatic?  Yes.  Would it reduce the faithful's need of mass and the sacraments?  Not one bit.

Ergo, your argument is based on idealism, which, while good, solves nothing in the present crisis, other than to 'stir the pot'.

I would agree with you up to the point of your last sentence. Firstly, the Church has the responsibility and duty to provide the sacraments to Her Children. She is being prevented from doing so, and and souls are dying because of that. It needs to be seen and internalized as tho whom it is that is responsible for this Devil's work, and that should be the first and prime concern of our leaders.  Sticking fingers in the dikes rather than stopping the criminals who are poking holes into them will never suffice.
Folks should indeed be seeking the valid sacraments while they can, anywhere they can receive them excepting places where they are being indoctrinated by false or dangerous doctrines.

The saving of one's soul is his first obligation, his personal sectarian preferences are secondary, if that.  If a groups position is indeed hypocritical then one should not adhere to their ideas and should avoid taking them to heart or at face value as to do so will confuse them and prevent them from seeing the Truth.  Get the sacraments when needed and go no further. Never make their errors your own.

Finally, my argument is based upon principles not ideals. There is right and there is wrong, there is good and there is evil , and the distinctions thereof should never be set aside or minimized for some goal of expediency or man conceived.
When the the fruit is a little rotten, or half rotten, it is no longer fit to serve its purpose according to Divine plan and will. It is tainted and always dangerous to the soul.  This reality has been fudged by clerics and other leaders so called, since the council into some hybrid idea that we have the ability and authority to leave the decaying fruit within the basket without it ruining the whole and ourselves along with it.  That is the idealism of man's arrogance towards the purity of the Holy things of God.  It is practical Liberalism on display.

Yea is Yea, Nay is Nay. That is Christian reality. Living within those boundaries are not idealism, but duty and honor in service of our Creator and His   divine order.

Unfortunately, there are strings attached.

For people who want to have a priest come, they are told to finance and build a chapel.
Once the chapel is built, the SSPX wants to have a free and clear title.
Once the SSPX has free and clear title, they can sell the chapel at any time.

Then the people must do fund raising to buy or build a new chapel if there are any parishioners willing to do so.

Burned once, shame on me; Burned twice ....

Yep, been there done that....


Bp Zendejas isn't requiring this from us though, down side, Mass only every few months...

Every few months is just fine if you are diligent in your daily religious duties in between. Salvation is most dependent upon one's interior disposition and prayer life. The sacraments are a help and an aid. People had become too used to easy access over the years until the council. But that was never the general norm throughout the history of Christendom.
Whatever you get is what should be grateful for. Whatever God makes possible is adequate in most cases.
I will tell you, when you do not have weekly or even monthly confession available, you will become much more careful in avoiding sinful behaviour.

That is so true.
We can become too dependent on our priests. Under communism, people were very fortunate to receive the sacraments as priest were rare.
Look what happened in China and Japan (before the advent of Communism) when Christianity was not allowed. Laymen would baptize the children and instruct them. They were most devout in prayer because that was all they had.
My husband and I are senior citizens, so we cannot drive far, take leisurely trips, and visit chapels or parishes.
Thus prayer has become our life, especially prayers to the Holy Spirit that He may come and dwell within us and keep us from all sin and impurity.

Wow... time to change the Head of the SSPX's PR department, Father Wegner.


I vote to bring back the Englishman.  



He'll put the Consiliars on the run, the SSPX back into the real seat of tradition.

Honestly, I cannot say that I agree with your statement.
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I really don't think he has the strength or will anymore to do any such thing, if he had the opportunity.

Perhaps we need to have a mechanic standing by..........

It won't do much good if the mechanic is locked in the vehicle.