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ѕуηαgσgυє Rising out of print
« on: December 08, 2020, 02:31:20 PM »
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  • As of today Hugh Akins' ѕуηαgσgυє Rising is now out of print and I have sold the last copy on Amazon.  I understand he may have a few defective copies available at a discount at  Catholic Action Resource Center (ca-rc.com)

    He is soon to have his book on Donald Trump available and they can be pre-ordered.  


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    Re: ѕуηαgσgυє Rising out of print
    « Reply #1 on: December 08, 2020, 03:51:32 PM »
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  • So no more will be printed in the future?
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    Re: ѕуηαgσgυє Rising out of print
    « Reply #2 on: December 09, 2020, 10:47:05 AM »
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  • My understanding is that Mr. Akins will not do more printings because of the cost.

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    Re: ѕуηαgσgυє Rising out of print
    « Reply #3 on: December 09, 2020, 01:34:02 PM »
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  • He is soon to have his book on Donald Trump available and they can be pre-ordered.  

    I'll do a hard pass on that one, with prejudice.

    He might be a good Catholic (I'll presume he is, though I honestly don't know him that well -- I don't know him at all personally).

    But his opinions on Donald Trump are foolish at best. His politics are completely outdated (the 1990s called; they want their politics back). He's still stuck in the 2-party "both sides just as bad" paradigm. His lexicon doesn't even include words like "patriots", "the Deep State", "drain the swamp". He needs to update his political understanding badly -- but perhaps you can't teach an old dog new tricks. He's pretty old (70s or 80s).
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    Re: ѕуηαgσgυє Rising out of print
    « Reply #4 on: December 09, 2020, 09:32:36 PM »
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  • His politics are completely outdated (the 1990s called; they want their politics back). He's still stuck in the 2-party "both sides just as bad" paradigm.
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    In the Rodney King riots of Los Angeles in the early 90s, although they were allowed by the government, people (notably Koreans) were also allowed to defend themselves. That is long gone. So far this year, everyone who has so much as defended himself from violent attack by leftists and/or minorities (there is little difference) is punished with the most draconian penalties.
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    Times have changed a lot since the 90s.


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    « Reply #5 on: December 10, 2020, 05:11:56 PM »
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  • I'll do a hard pass on that one, with prejudice.

    He might be a good Catholic (I'll presume he is, though I honestly don't know him that well -- I don't know him at all personally).

    But his opinions on Donald Trump are foolish at best. His politics are completely outdated (the 1990s called; they want their politics back). He's still stuck in the 2-party "both sides just as bad" paradigm. His lexicon doesn't even include words like "patriots", "the Deep State", "drain the swamp". He needs to update his political understanding badly -- but perhaps you can't teach an old dog new tricks. He's pretty old (70s or 80s).
    When I reverted back to the Faith 20 years ago after 30 years of apostasy, the SSPX chapel I attended had a chapter of the League of Christ the King. It was through the gentlemen I met in the LKC, including its USA founder, Hugh Akins, that I began to see the world through an authentic Roman Catholic lens instead of the glasses given to me during my 16 years of a so called Roman Catholic education. We had great meetings and speakers, and I became a voracious reader of not only spiritual books, for Lord knows how much help I needed in that department,  but books and encyclicals dealing with Traditional Roman Catholic Social Doctrine. To cut to the chase, I'm deeply indebted to Mr. Akins, who I have kept in touch with over the years and have helped produce one of his offerings, and also to the other men who still remain friends or have gone on to their eternal rewards. I am certain my story is not typical. Mr. Akins and his apostolate has probably changed the lives of hundreds, possibly thousands of men(he also has a prison ministry).

    Now, I'd like to address some of your points made above:

    "He might be a good Catholic (I'll presume he is, though I honestly don't know him that well -- I don't know him at all personally)."

    Well, Matthew, that's mighty white of you. You just might be a good Catholic too.  I'll presume you are as well although I don't know you personally. I'll also presume that you were in the middle of a bad day when you posted that gem. I learned that you shouldn't go near your firearms when your ticked off. The same should apply to posting on message boards.

    "But his opinions on Donald Trump are foolish at best. His politics are completely outdated (the 1990s called; they want their politics back). He's still stuck in the 2-party "both sides just as bad" paradigm. His lexicon doesn't even include words like "patriots", "the Deep State", "drain the swamp". He needs to update his political understanding badly -- but perhaps you can't teach an old dog new tricks. He's pretty old (70s or 80s).

    I think Hugh's politics can be easily summed up as an uncompromising adherence to  the Social Doctrine Encyclicals, especially " Quas Primas." As long as this country is not Roman Catholic, it is doomed. Most Traditionalists blow this off as an impossibility, but it is what it is.

    Lastly, the "dog" that needs to learn new tricks remark another gem. I gather you were at the seminary between the ages of 18-20 or so?? The "dog" at that age was in the jungles of Vietnam and was awarded a Purple Heart for his troubles. Maybe you need to learn some new tricks like we all do. Humility, and a respect for our elders, is a good start.

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    Re: ѕуηαgσgυє Rising out of print
    « Reply #6 on: December 10, 2020, 06:02:05 PM »
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  • When I reverted back to the Faith 20 years ago after 30 years of apostasy, the SSPX chapel I attended had a chapter of the League of Christ the King. It was through the gentlemen I met in the LKC, including its USA founder, Hugh Akins, that I began to see the world through an authentic Roman Catholic lens instead of the glasses given to me during my 16 years of a so called Roman Catholic education. We had great meetings and speakers, and I became a voracious reader of not only spiritual books, for Lord knows how much help I needed in that department,  but books and encyclicals dealing with Traditional Roman Catholic Social Doctrine. To cut to the chase, I'm deeply indebted to Mr. Akins, who I have kept in touch with over the years and have helped produce one of his offerings, and also to the other men who still remain friends or have gone on to their eternal rewards. I am certain my story is not typical. Mr. Akins and his apostolate has probably changed the lives of hundreds, possibly thousands of men(he also has a prison ministry).

    Now, I'd like to address some of your points made above:

    "He might be a good Catholic (I'll presume he is, though I honestly don't know him that well -- I don't know him at all personally)."

    Well, Matthew, that's mighty white of you. You just might be a good Catholic too.  I'll presume you are as well although I don't know you personally. I'll also presume that you were in the middle of a bad day when you posted that gem. I learned that you shouldn't go near your firearms when your ticked off. The same should apply to posting on message boards.

    "But his opinions on Donald Trump are foolish at best. His politics are completely outdated (the 1990s called; they want their politics back). He's still stuck in the 2-party "both sides just as bad" paradigm. His lexicon doesn't even include words like "patriots", "the Deep State", "drain the swamp". He needs to update his political understanding badly -- but perhaps you can't teach an old dog new tricks. He's pretty old (70s or 80s).

    I think Hugh's politics can be easily summed up as an uncompromising adherence to  the Social Doctrine Encyclicals, especially " Quas Primas." As long as this country is not Roman Catholic, it is doomed. Most Traditionalists blow this off as an impossibility, but it is what it is.

    Lastly, the "dog" that needs to learn new tricks remark another gem. I gather you were at the seminary between the ages of 18-20 or so?? The "dog" at that age was in the jungles of Vietnam and was awarded a Purple Heart for his troubles. Maybe you need to learn some new tricks like we all do. Humility, and a respect for our elders, is a good start.

    Pax Christi.
    Thank you, BOTHY. You don’t post much, but your words here are just what I would like to have said, if I had known Mr Akins personally and if I was capable of expressing myself as well as you are able. God bless you.
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    Re: ѕуηαgσgυє Rising out of print
    « Reply #7 on: December 10, 2020, 06:57:42 PM »
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  • I was bummed that Matthew and Hugh fell out over a non-Catholic issue like Trump.  Still am.  
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    Re: ѕуηαgσgυє Rising out of print
    « Reply #8 on: December 10, 2020, 09:04:47 PM »
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  • I pray for the sake of Mr Akins that President Trump wins a second term so that Mr Akins may continue as a professional author that may enjoy the fruits of his labor without having to indur the discomforts of the gulags that might afflict his daily comforts that ALL of Trump's opponents would most lovingly like to impose onto the likes of people like Mr Akins...

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    « Reply #9 on: December 11, 2020, 09:53:30 AM »
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  • Bothy, etc.

    I got the same "Social Doctrine of the Kingship of Christ", Traditional Catholic worldview that you speak of, only Hugh Akins had nothing to do with it in my case. I'm more of a Tom Nelson and Bishop Williamson fan myself. Maybe that's why I'm not swayed (or indebted to) the man "Hugh Akins".

    I was born and raised Trad Catholic.

    Maybe there are some who are bigger fans of Hugh Akins than Bishop Williamson. Such is life. But I have my own subjective experience, and my own opinions. And as this is my message board, I'm going to give them freely. I consider them AT LEAST as valid as yours.

    Regardless of how much good he did/does, the fact is that Hugh Akins' current "political worldview" is invalid, insofar as it doesn't match up with the objective facts/reality.

    How does Hugh Akins explain, for example, the sweaty panic the MSM, Big Tech, Deep State, Dem party is in, with regards to Trump? You can't fake that kind of hatred, that kind of panic. Trump seems to be opposing the NWO in facts and deeds, not just words. He is against the Communist and Climate Change agendas (but I repeat myself). I'm not as old as Hugh, but I'm old enough to remember 90's politics -- nothing like today. Back then, it WAS, TRULY, a 2-party scam. Bush and Clinton were friends, for crying out loud! They both went to the same satanic rituals and the same Bohemian Grove.

    It's almost as if the System, the Deep State and all its allies and appendages, is opposed to Trump. Hmmm, why might that be?

    Hugh Akins basically says, "Because Trump is part of that system, he's part of the Deep State!"

    Me: Um.... O... K.... So the Deep State is fighting to the death to unseat Trump, or die trying, because he is actually part of the Deep State?

    Let me guess: you'd expect an undercover police officer (infiltrating a drug cartel) to shoot and kill 20 police officers, and blow up 2 police stations, just "to gain their trust"? I wouldn't.
    When does common sense take over, and you say, "He is obviously not part of THAT group!" When I see a man doing that kind of serious, earnest damage to a target group, I am convinced he's not part of that group.

    And actually Trump has done more than in that analogy. He's shutting down the "endless wars", the drugs/human/sex trafficking, and other operations which FUND the Deep State. You can't get any more AXE TO THE ROOT than that.

    What was the last president who didn't start wars overseas? For most of us, it was before we were born.
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    « Reply #10 on: December 11, 2020, 04:27:24 PM »
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  • Bothy, etc.

    I got the same "Social Doctrine of the Kingship of Christ", Traditional Catholic worldview that you speak of, only Hugh Akins had nothing to do with it in my case. I'm more of a Tom Nelson and Bishop Williamson fan myself. Maybe that's why I'm not swayed (or indebted to) the man "Hugh Akins".

    I was born and raised Trad Catholic.

    Maybe there are some who are bigger fans of Hugh Akins than Bishop Williamson. Such is life. But I have my own subjective experience, and my own opinions. And as this is my message board, I'm going to give them freely. I consider them AT LEAST as valid as yours.

    Regardless of how much good he did/does, the fact is that Hugh Akins' current "political worldview" is invalid, insofar as it doesn't match up with the objective facts/reality.

    How does Hugh Akins explain, for example, the sweaty panic the MSM, Big Tech, Deep State, Dem party is in, with regards to Trump? You can't fake that kind of hatred, that kind of panic. Trump seems to be opposing the NWO in facts and deeds, not just words. He is against the Communist and Climate Change agendas (but I repeat myself). I'm not as old as Hugh, but I'm old enough to remember 90's politics -- nothing like today. Back then, it WAS, TRULY, a 2-party scam. Bush and Clinton were friends, for crying out loud! They both went to the same satanic rituals and the same Bohemian Grove.

    It's almost as if the System, the Deep State and all its allies and appendages, is opposed to Trump. Hmmm, why might that be?

    Hugh Akins basically says, "Because Trump is part of that system, he's part of the Deep State!"

    Me: Um.... O... K.... So the Deep State is fighting to the death to unseat Trump, or die trying, because he is actually part of the Deep State?

    Let me guess: you'd expect an undercover police officer (infiltrating a drug cartel) to shoot and kill 20 police officers, and blow up 2 police stations, just "to gain their trust"? I wouldn't.
    When does common sense take over, and you say, "He is obviously not part of THAT group!" When I see a man doing that kind of serious, earnest damage to a target group, I am convinced he's not part of that group.

    And actually Trump has done more than in that analogy. He's shutting down the "endless wars", the drugs/human/sex trafficking, and other operations which FUND the Deep State. You can't get any more AXE TO THE ROOT than that.

    What was the last president who didn't start wars overseas? For most of us, it was before we were born.
    Mathew:
    You missed my point or chose to ignore it.  I could care less about how you or Hugh Akins feel about Trump. My point was taking you to task for the meanspirited air surrounding your comments about Mr. Akins. I would have stuck up for Thomas A. Nelson & +Williamson as well since I also owe them a debt of gratitude . The same would have applied for Fr. Denis Fahey, Father DeLallo and a list too long to mention including many good current and former SSPX priests. Yes, this is your board, and I don’t have a gun pointed to my head to make me come here.  I’ve found your apostolate over the years to be an excellent source of knowledge regarding the Faith and world news from a Catholic perspective. May God bless you for your work and sacrifices. However, your remarks were in poor taste and set a bad example.


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    « Reply #11 on: December 11, 2020, 11:28:02 PM »
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  • Mathew:
    However, your remarks were in poor taste and set a bad example.


    Hugh Akins is a very public person with public teachings, and I was attacking those teachings/positions as being untenable, unrealistic, and out of touch with reality. I shouldn't have mentioned his age, or how an "old dog can't learn new tricks" because that tends to focus on the person. I went outside the lines there, I'll admit.

    I should have done a better job publicly criticizing his POSITION, even CALLING HIM OUT for his LUDICROUS POSITION on Donald Trump, which is what I intended and still intend to do. I believe most of my post(s) did accomplish this goal.

    Hugh Akins' positions, as well as any of our positions, are not beyond criticism. We should stick to criticizing the positions, however, and not focus on the men who hold those positions.

    It is not uncharitable to have a debate, even a public debate, on political issues.

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    « Reply #12 on: December 12, 2020, 06:50:36 PM »
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    "I shouldn't have mentioned his age, or how an "old dog can't learn new tricks" because that tends to focus on the person. I went outside the lines there, I'll admit."
     
    Yes. And you crossed a bigger line with a backhanded swipe concerning his “good Catholic:” status. That and the age comment were what I characterized as being in in “poor taste.” It was NOT your opinion of his position on Trump.


    “Hugh Akins' positions, as well as any of our positions, are not beyond criticism. We should stick to criticizing the positions, however, and not focus on the men who hold those positions.
     
     It is not uncharitable to have a debate, even a public debate, on political issues.”

     
    I absolutely concur. I did not say anything to the contrary.
     
    I’ve said all I need to say on this matter. May God bless you, your family and your apostolate.
     
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    Re: ѕуηαgσgυє Rising out of print
    « Reply #13 on: December 13, 2020, 05:27:14 PM »
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  • As of today Hugh Akins' ѕуηαgσgυє Rising is now out of print and I have sold the last copy on Amazon.  I understand he may have a few defective copies available at a discount at  Catholic Action Resource Center (ca-rc.com)

    He is soon to have his book on Donald Trump available and they can be pre-ordered.  
    This is a dumb thread. Why would you post about something like this after it's gone?

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    « Reply #14 on: December 13, 2020, 05:55:24 PM »
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  • This is a dumb thread. Why would you post about something like this after it's gone?

    There are two very obvious reasons that you are unable to decipher:

    1. So that any one who wants to get a copy may avail himself of a defective copy at a discount.
    2. To announce the publication of another book and the opportunity to pre-order.

    I do hope that helps to clarify.
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