Author Topic: Surprise!...another deal with Rome turns out bad. (Read 2388 times)

Mr G · « **on:** December 01, 2016, 11:18:51 AM »

From Non Possumus, Oasis Sisters get's modifications to their Constitutions:

http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2016/11/noticias-sobre-el-aggiornamento-del.html

Mr G · « **Reply #1 on:** December 01, 2016, 01:53:46 PM »

From Non Possumus, Google translated:

- The post of Mother General has simply been suppressed.

- Elections were held in the monasteries of Barcelona and Cordoba to elect a new superior in each monastery.

- The Monastery of Barcelona and the Monastery of Cordoba are autonomous in their government and depend directly on Rome, also financially autonomous and can no longer give money to each other. (Barcelona has no authority over Cordoba).

- The Monastery of Cordoba has no closure until "build a Church within the property" (!). For now they are not cloistered, but expect to be. What a way to act from the part of Rome!

"They have erased the name of Monsignor Lefebvre and Monsignor de Castro Mayer from all their old publications, ridiculously putting white stickers on their names.

- They no longer speak of "traditional mass", nor "Catholic Mass" much less of "Tridentine Mass"; But use a shocking language saying, for example, that "our charism is the Mass in extraordinary rite"

- Do not hesitate to say openly and publicly that the "Second Vatican Council" is part of the Magisterium of the Church.

- Father Muñoz says in public that the sisters' vows that were made before recognition by Rome are invalid and Rome asked all the sisters to take the vows again. P. Muñoz says that the nuns who are in Madrid and who were in the Oasis are not nuns.

We then asked: is Sister Sherry Lombel not a nun? Or is she just a fundraiser?

Incredulous · « **Reply #2 on:** December 01, 2016, 07:20:39 PM »

Alas, so few warriors left... to engage the battle!

TKGS · « **Reply #3 on:** December 02, 2016, 04:16:14 AM »

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Alas, so few warriors left... to engage the battle!

It's not so much that there are so few warriors left, it's that so many warriors are defecting to the enemy. The article says that this group reconciled with Rome, just as the SSPX is in the process of doing.

Incredulous · « **Reply #4 on:** December 02, 2016, 09:41:25 AM »

Okay, the loss of warriors, through traitorous defections in the ranks.

Those poor souls... they don't know what they're missing?

For it's an honor to have the blood of modernist, apostates, pagans and ʝʊdɛօ-masonss on your clothes.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #5 on:** December 02, 2016, 01:32:11 PM »

http://brasildogmadafe.blogspot.com.br/2016/12/the-oasis-of-jesus-priest.html

The Oasis of Jesus-Priest: Devoured by the Conciliar Beast

“Although the Oasis is a Pious Union, we are lacking the approval of our statutes and constitutions of the contemplative life by the Church’s Hierarchy. The circuмstances in the Church and in the Oasis have changed in regards to the Tridentine Mass. Before, more than 30 years ago, the Tridentine Mass was banned, relegated and impeded in many parts. Because we celebrate the Tridentine Mass, our Constitutions of Contemplative Life of the Oasis remained ‘frozen’. Today the Hierarchy of the Church has recognized that it had never been abrogated; it favorably fosters and grants the Tridentine Mass. There are more than 300 bishops that have already celebrated it. The Pious Union has never been suppressed by the Archbishop of Barcelona with any decrees of extinction. For that reason, the Oasis does not have to make an agreement with Rome; it only asks for its recognition of its actual situation. Rome has granted a privilege to those that desire to keep Catholic Tradition, which is “Ecclesia Dei”, where, in an evident evolution, the Tridentine Mass and Tradition can be kept each day with more peace and tranquility. This organization has currently received more than 60 religious institutes. The Oasis has not been asked to change anything that compromises its relation with Tradition: no agreements and no signatures…”

http://brasildogmadafe.blogspot.com.br/2016/12/the-oasis-of-jesus-priest.html

poche · « **Reply #6 on:** December 03, 2016, 12:01:49 AM »

Quote from: Mr G

From Non Possumus, Google translated:

- Father Muñoz says in public that the sisters' vows that were made before recognition by Rome are invalid and Rome asked all the sisters to take the vows again. P. Muñoz says that the nuns who are in Madrid and who were in the Oasis are not nuns.

We then asked: is Sister Sherry Lombel not a nun? Or is she just a fundraiser?

If had made religious vows, I would not hesitate to repeat them again and again.

insidebaseball · « **Reply #7 on:** December 03, 2016, 06:22:47 AM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: Mr G
From Non Possumus, Google translated:

- Father Muñoz says in public that the sisters' vows that were made before recognition by Rome are invalid and Rome asked all the sisters to take the vows again. P. Muñoz says that the nuns who are in Madrid and who were in the Oasis are not nuns.

We then asked: is Sister Sherry Lombel not a nun? Or is she just a fundraiser?

If had made religious vows, I would not hesitate to repeat them again and again.

.

It is a sin to to hold a doubt about a valid order or vow

poche · « **Reply #8 on:** December 03, 2016, 10:54:00 PM »

Quote from: insidebaseball

Quote from: poche
Quote from: Mr G
From Non Possumus, Google translated:

- Father Muñoz says in public that the sisters' vows that were made before recognition by Rome are invalid and Rome asked all the sisters to take the vows again. P. Muñoz says that the nuns who are in Madrid and who were in the Oasis are not nuns.

We then asked: is Sister Sherry Lombel not a nun? Or is she just a fundraiser?

If had made religious vows, I would not hesitate to repeat them again and again.
.

It is a sin to to hold a doubt about a valid order or vow

When the sister makes her vows they are to Jesus Christ. They become the brides of Christ. To repeat those vows to the one she loves should be a joy.

insidebaseball · « **Reply #9 on:** December 04, 2016, 09:31:29 AM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: insidebaseball
Quote from: poche
Quote from: Mr G
From Non Possumus, Google translated:

- Father Muñoz says in public that the sisters' vows that were made before recognition by Rome are invalid and Rome asked all the sisters to take the vows again. P. Muñoz says that the nuns who are in Madrid and who were in the Oasis are not nuns.

We then asked: is Sister Sherry Lombel not a nun? Or is she just a fundraiser?

If had made religious vows, I would not hesitate to repeat them again and again.
.

It is a sin to to hold a doubt about a valid order or vow

When the sister makes her vows they are to Jesus Christ. They become the brides of Christ. To repeat those vows to the one she loves should be a joy.

Sounds like you support the faux Catholics. Your mind must be controlled by some fatal error or attachment.

poche · « **Reply #10 on:** December 04, 2016, 11:06:46 PM »

Quote from: insidebaseball

Quote from: poche
Quote from: insidebaseball
Quote from: poche
Quote from: Mr G
From Non Possumus, Google translated:

- Father Muñoz says in public that the sisters' vows that were made before recognition by Rome are invalid and Rome asked all the sisters to take the vows again. P. Muñoz says that the nuns who are in Madrid and who were in the Oasis are not nuns.

We then asked: is Sister Sherry Lombel not a nun? Or is she just a fundraiser?

If had made religious vows, I would not hesitate to repeat them again and again.
.

It is a sin to to hold a doubt about a valid order or vow

When the sister makes her vows they are to Jesus Christ. They become the brides of Christ. To repeat those vows to the one she loves should be a joy.

Sounds like you support the faux Catholics. Your mind must be controlled by some fatal error or attachment.

It is my support for the sisters as they live out their vocation to a special holiness. Even after she makes vows the religious is invited several times during their lives to repeat those vows. A religious promise. It is not an irrepeatible sacrament like baptism or holy orders.