If Bishop Lazo was still alive, he would be outside on the streets right smack in front of OLOVC with the good padres offering the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass too! He lived through the whole VII fraud and he died abandoned by all his NO confreres. Bishop Fellay's unfaithfulness would have broken his heart. He offered his death for the conversion of bishops.

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Fr. Chazal said a Mass on the street. I think Fr. Pfeiffer served this Mass and took a video.

I couldn't see any faithful at this street Mass. All Trad Cath were singing in the chapel located across the street. The name of this chapel is the OLVC SSPX.

Support these priests!!

I do think we need to support these priests.

However, ...
HOW MANY OF THE FAITHFUL WERE TOLD THAT THESE WONDERFUL PRIESTS WERE GOING TO VISIT THEM??
 

Having been an SSPX parishioner for many, many years, it would not surprise me that none of the faithful were told these priests would be visiting...

or if they WERE told of the upcoming visit, ...  they were not given the essential details, like place or time that the Mass would be said.  

I've seen too many schedule flubs from the SSPX in the past to have to at least ask this question.

That is not what is holding them back. They are being threatened with expulsion if they attend and they fear that will leave them no option for the sacraments, especially if no resistance priests or independent priests remain there to continue their spiritual needs. It's just like how you don't jump off an oceanliner if you don't see any life boats in sight.

At some of the Chapels we are being threatened with expulsion just for talking to others about the situation, and it will be a "cold day in Hell" before the Pastor announces a Mass by either brave priest with the remark that we are free to attend with no repercussions.

... I began to take that forum less seriously.

I can imagine it still the same.

Funny, I read this less than 5 minutes ago and now here you are!

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... I began to take that forum less seriously.

I can imagine it still the same.

At least you don't have to imagine any longer!  :wink:


Unless perhaps you're a different person... in which case, nevermind.  

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And yes, if the faithful would recognize the truth of what is
happening here, they would not kow-tow to the "fear of reprisal argument." This
kind of thing has been going on for years, though, in the SSPX. There have been
so many stories of unjust "disciplinary acts,"

My great-grandfather, whom I never met worked as a groundsman at a seminary in Ireland. Well a place of formation for a missionary order.It is long gone.

One day the Superior, who had returned from Africa asked him and the men to do a certain job. My great grandfather politely told him it would be better given the good weather if they brought in the hay. The Superior was annoyed and threatened him with the sack.

In the end my great grandfather left instead of being sacked as a point of principle. He told the Superior the crows would fly through the ruins of their seminary. For years it was derelict. My great grand father went to London and spent his days there.

He had his principles and wasn't afraid to tell the Superior he was wrong. It made no sense to do the other task whilst hay was needed to be brought in from the fields.

We are obliged to speak the truth.

I quite agree that it was commendable that he stood up for his principles, but in this case, by leaving, he did not deprive himself of the sacraments needed for salvation, so we aren't really comparing apples to apples, as they say.

He did the right thing and that is what matters.

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So he cursed the seminary because of a fight with his boss over what work should be done when?

And what was the principle?  My Will Be Done?

Being of entirely Irish stock myself, I've seen and heard a great deal of Irish spite.  But this retires the trophy.

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I wouldn't worry about Fathers Pfeiffer and Chazal, God will care for them, but worry about the people who are afraid to follow them.  The cult-like aspect of the SSPX, and its power to manipulate the minds of its followers in perverse ways is very tragic, because it's choking out the Catholic Faith in what was supposed to be a sanctuary of Faith.

You can't really be a Catholic and a cultist at the same time.

You seem to be almost obsessed with accusing the SSPX of being cult-like. I see you do it time and time again. You have no idea what you're talking about. Please, cease.

"You seem to be almost obsessed with accusing the SSPX of being cult-like."
I would think Telesphorus 'accusation' was for +fellay and is crack-troops of the neo-SSPX rather than that of ABL SSPX. Their actions of damaged-control around the world is speaking for themselves.