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Offline marie therese

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Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2018, 03:10:54 PM »
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    • Fr. Gabriel was recently back at OLGM for awhile, but is no longer there. Word is he was sent to his family in southern CA. He is probably roaming like Fr. Raphael did.
    He is apparently facing some canonical measures because of his ludicrous actions in public. I am a witness to his theatrics. The Monks were pretty forgiving until he condemned them from the Monastery Sanctuary. Now he's out. Prayers are needed!
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #16 on: January 03, 2018, 03:18:23 PM »
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    • The knock against Silver City has always been that it lacks monastic stability: They are always travelling instead of staying shut up in their cloister like monks: 

    Camps, ordinations, etc.

    And it seems the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, as evinced by the cases of Fr. Arizaga (4 monasteries in 5 years), and now Fr. Gabriel.
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #17 on: January 03, 2018, 05:25:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: marie therese on January 03, 2018, 12:41:25 PM
    The situation with Fr Gabriel Tran is not new.

    To my knowledge he was given a leave of absence for health reasons, going to San Jose CA where there is a large Vietnamese community, as in many parts of California.

    Fr Trin had just disappeared from his brief association with tradition.

    So there was no longer a traditional Vietnamese speaking priest anywhere in America.

    Fr Cyprian granted this leave of absence for both reasons, Fr Gabriel’s poor health (he had a long list of seemingly incurable ailments, probably originating in S.E. Asia where he was born and raised) and secondly to reach out to the Vietnamese, especially to the older non-English speaking generation.

    The local Novus Ordo Vietnamese priests in California quickly blocked the faithful from attending Fr Gabriel’s Masses, seeing the danger of divisions, etc.

    The group attending his Masses dwindled down to a handful, this was at St Thomas More Church in San Jose.

    In the meantime, Fr Gabriel’s health relapsed, getting worse than ever, after a brief time of doing quite well in the California environment which resembles climate conditions found in Vietnam.

    He had been increasingly under the influence of a few Vietnamese families who follow “The Book of Truth” the infamous 4-volume set of books promoting the ever-popular End Times Doomsday doctrines.

    Fr Gabriel was sent to Vietnam by them to be “healed” by a mystic “Marie” who gave him a potion to drink and he was “healed” of the entirety of his health problems.

    In meetings with this mystic person, if you are approved, she goes into a trance and begins relating messages from Our Lady. There are other mystics in Vietnam who have been proven to be fakes because they became proud, but this “Marie” according to Fr. Gabriel is the real one because she is humble.

    Since that day, “Marie” skypes daily messages from Our Lady worldwide to those who are worthy of them, such as an unsuspecting priest such as Fr Gabriel.

    He is now in the state of complete “mind control” from this medium in Vietnam.

    Ask him a question and he will skype his mystic messenger for the answer,

    using Our Lady’s I-phone as he calls it. He cannot bear to be without this telephone, he started screaming at the Monastery when it was taken away.

    At the Monastery, he was proclaiming in public to be Our Lady’s chosen oracle of the End Times, no other priest in the entire world is worthy of these prophetic messages, only him.

    The monks were worried that Fr G had gone crackers.

    Fr. Gabriel and the followers of this doomsday cult are above all Church authority, religious rules or Canon law, as they themselves say, since they are under direct orders from God the Father and Our Lady. All other priests and bishops throughout the world are bad and not worthy of these messages. They are the “perverse generation” Our Lord speaks about in scripture.

    Anyone who challenges them will be destroyed by the Holy Ghost, their names erased from the Book of Life by God the Father, St Michael will allow them to be possessed by the Devil, and so on … very bad things will happen to you !

    “The Book of Truth” is their bible, written by Marie of Divine Mercy (Carberry) in Ireland.

    According to these teachings, and proclaimed by Fr. Gabriel :

    Pope Francis is the false prophet

    Pope John Paul II is in heaven

    Obama is the anti-Christ

    Medjugorje is real

    Divine Mercy is real

    World War III was to begin in December 2017 (oops !)

    Trump will leave office in 2018.

    The great tribulation will begin any day now with a global earthquake,

    provoking tsunamis on the coasts.

    Worldwide nuclear war will happen in 2018.

    Only 4 states of the USA will survive the catastrophe.

    A Garabandal “universal call to conscience” will take place to warn souls of their status before God, giving them one last chance for conversion.

    Our Lady has run out of tears, thus the bleeding eyes of her statues in various places in the world.

    There is lots more, but you can research this Book of Truth yourself.

    This End Times cult seeks to unite all similar groups into one so there is worldwide unity !

    But Fr Gabriel is the only priest approved by Our Lady to promote her messages !

    Father claims to now hear the voices of God the Father, God the Holy Ghost, Our Lady, St Michael the Archangel, directly, with or without the Skyped messages from “Marie”.

    Be careful when drinking miraculous potions from Our Lady !
    He sounds perfect for olmc in ky!!!
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #18 on: January 03, 2018, 05:29:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Felicitas on January 03, 2018, 03:09:51 PM
    Fr Tran, Fr Trin, Fr Trinh.... these aren't the same priest, are they?
    I don't know fr. Gabriel's last name.
    Fr. Trinh is in copperas cove, tx.  He is not a monk.  He was ordained NO, re sspx, brief sede, now not.
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #19 on: January 03, 2018, 05:38:35 PM »
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    • OLG at Silver City was my last and feeble attempt to try out a monastic vocation. That was eight years ago. I can attest to the travelling monk question. Father Cyprian and several other monks at the time were in Europe when I arrived for my visit. I did manage to meet them by the end of my stay. Most of my official dealings were with Father Gabriel. I believe I wrote somewhere on CI about an interesting moment with Father Raphael.

    It is thus disconcerting to read what has been posted on this thread. Much prayer is indeed needed.
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #20 on: January 03, 2018, 06:48:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: marie therese on January 03, 2018, 03:10:54 PM
    Fr. Gabriel was recently back at OLGM for awhile, but is no longer there. Word is he was sent to his family in southern CA. He is probably roaming like Fr. Raphael did.
    He is apparently facing some canonical measures because of his ludicrous actions in public. I am a witness to his theatrics. The Monks were pretty forgiving until he condemned them from the Monastery Sanctuary. Now he's out. Prayers are needed!

    "Ask and you shall receive!"

    Thanks for the download Marie Therese.

    Do you know if "mystic Marie" predicted when the SSPX would sign-off on Prelature with newChurch?   :jester:
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #21 on: January 03, 2018, 07:03:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Felicitas on January 03, 2018, 03:09:51 PM
    Fr Tran, Fr Trin, Fr Trinh.... these aren't the same priest, are they?

    This is such sad news about Fr Gabriel. I knew he was always sickly but didn't know anything about his departure from the Monastery. We, sadly, broke our ties with the Monastery a while ago. I can't help but wonder if Fr Cyprian would have not bound himself and the Monastery to the SSPX if there would've been a different outcome, especially concerning Fr. Gabriel and Fr Rafael..

    And does that mean that Fr Rafael has an entirely new branch of Resistance? He really left Fr Pfeiffer? Good news!! But isn't he against the 4 Bishops?

    I will continue to pray for all these holy priests! :pray:
    Frs. Trinh and Gabriel are 2 different priests.  Both Vietnamese.
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #22 on: January 04, 2018, 11:17:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: Kazimierz on January 03, 2018, 05:38:35 PM
    It is thus disconcerting to read what has been posted on this thread. Much prayer is indeed needed.

    I agree, a monastic falling from grace is not news I like hearing about.  When did this priest fr. gabriel officially leave the sspx?  It sounds like he has not been at silver city since 2009?  
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #23 on: January 04, 2018, 03:18:22 PM »
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    • He performed a baptism for our daughter in 2011. He was still at OLG Monastery as of the end of 2012..
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #24 on: January 04, 2018, 03:43:11 PM »
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    •  "He cannot bear to be without this telephone, he started screaming at the Monastery when it was taken away."

    I am telling you, there is something wrong with cell phones.  I have one, but I want to get rid of it.  It is like the most addicted to thing in the world, more than chocolate.  For the addictive element alone I want to ditch it, and learn to live without it.  Also, who tried to take away his cell phone?  And, why would a monastic even be allowed to have a cell phone or private telephone in a trad monastery?  
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #25 on: January 04, 2018, 06:55:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: PG on January 04, 2018, 03:43:11 PM
    "He cannot bear to be without this telephone, he started screaming at the Monastery when it was taken away."

    I am telling you, there is something wrong with cell phones.  I have one, but I want to get rid of it.  It is like the most addicted to thing in the world, more than chocolate.  For the addictive element alone I want to ditch it, and learn to live without it.  Also, who tried to take away his cell phone?  And, why would a monastic even be allowed to have a cell phone or private telephone in a trad monastery?  

    Agreed.  A Monk with a smart phone, is comparable to a Franciscan with a credit card.
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #26 on: January 04, 2018, 07:32:39 PM »
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    • Cellphone question and short answer:

    A priest is mercifully granted sick leave, is now outside his order, he interacts with the faithful who are under no superior and no rule. They see he could use some means to communicate with them “in case of emergency.” These poor monks have nothing !

    He says his superiors are too strict, his rule is oppressive, or even worse, that his order is with that nasty neo-SSPX ! I’m being forced to obey for the wrong reasons !

    And besides, we travel too much, too many apostolates because of the crisis in the Church, that’s why I’m sick !

    That’s very bad, Father, here we got you an I-phone, we got you an I-pad, we got you a laptop, you need to keep up with the blogs. Don’t worry we won’t tell your superiors. They’re the enemy.

    Or a priest makes a sick call, the faithful show him their Internet.

    Look Father, they’re talking about you !

    The faithful corrupt the priest with their worldly spirit of social media.

    He returns to his order but hides the worldly connections because the faithful are secretly paying for his accounts. Then he gets caught and punished. But he rebels and gets kicked out.

    But now he is not a rebel but a martyr, the faithful now have a priest, their new hero ! A new independent chapel is born ! A religious priest is even better, they have that special religious spirit ! ( duh ! unless they lost it somewhere ! )
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #27 on: January 07, 2018, 08:25:59 AM »
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    • This is all so very Protestant! The Catholic Church is one. There is no unity here!

    "Father so and so, with no jurisdiction, left and is joining father so and so, also with no jurisdiction, and thy are joining forces against the Father's of the SSPX. The SSPX Fathers are always fighting against the Father's of the resistance... I hope Father so and so starts traveling around saying Masses all over the place. He doesn't need Jurisdiction because somebody told me he doesn't need it." - THERE IS NO CATHOLICITY HERE. IT IS UNDEFENDABLE, TRY AS YOU MAY!
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #28 on: January 07, 2018, 12:01:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on January 04, 2018, 06:55:07 PM
    A Monk with a smart phone, is comparable to a Franciscan with a credit card.


    :laugh1:
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    Re: Status of Silver City Benedictine, Father Gabriel?
    « Reply #29 on: January 07, 2018, 01:19:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Wall frame on January 07, 2018, 08:25:59 AM
    This is all so very Protestant! The Catholic Church is one. There is no unity here!

    "Father so and so, with no jurisdiction, left and is joining father so and so, also with no jurisdiction, and thy are joining forces against the Father's of the SSPX. The SSPX Fathers are always fighting against the Father's of the resistance... I hope Father so and so starts traveling around saying Masses all over the place. He doesn't need Jurisdiction because somebody told me he doesn't need it." - THERE IS NO CATHOLICITY HERE. IT IS UNDEFENDABLE, TRY AS YOU MAY!
    Good point Wall frame.

    For years, the SSPX has tried to monopolize and make a business out of Catholic tradition.  

    But the Church crisis is so bad, and the SSPX's denial and paralysis in dealing with it, has brought many Catholics to their senses.

    We fight the good fight and hold-on to any validily ordained priest for as long as we can.
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