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Offline Carissima

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Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2019, 02:21:38 PM »
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  • I know someone that went there recently. The SSPX Priests did not carry the statue the Franciscans did. There is a power struggle going on and the SSPX is not involved.
    And again  :facepalm:..
    No where was it claimed by the author of the article, Atila Guimaraes, that the SSPX carried the statue. The story was they attempted and could not. 


    Offline cosmas

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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #31 on: February 14, 2019, 02:44:17 PM »
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  • OKAY, The SSPX Priests didn't attempt to carry the Statue ! Hows that work for you ?


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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #32 on: February 18, 2019, 06:54:29 PM »
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  • Has Vox Catholica or SSPX made any other statements about these attacks? Curious to hear what either of them have to say in response to Tradition in Action's rebuttals, which seem to be pretty solid.

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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #33 on: February 18, 2019, 07:02:48 PM »
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  • Well, my son was told that the TFP and SSPX used to alternate taking turns to care for the statue ... but then the SSPX just stopped showing up.  So it was left to the TFP for a while.  I have an e-mail out to some high-ranking TFP members I know to see if there's any truth to the TIA article.
    Ladislaus, any news from the TFP?

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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #34 on: February 19, 2019, 12:56:45 AM »
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  • Has Vox Catholica or SSPX made any other statements about these attacks? Curious to hear what either of them have to say in response to Tradition in Action's rebuttals, which seem to be pretty solid.
                

                    
     "Tee, hee.... we met with the Shrine Nuns and the Statue scandal is over"
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #35 on: February 19, 2019, 04:03:31 AM »
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  • OKAY, The SSPX Priests didn't attempt to carry the Statue ! Hows that work for you ?
    Oh, and who’s your source for that information? Because Atila Guimaraes and several others from TIA have been regular contributors to the spreading of the devotion of Our Lady of Good Success at The Conceptionist Convent, so I would imagine with all the reporting and visits to Quito they’ve done over the years, that it would have given them some excellent contacts and valueable sources of information at that location. 
    Not even saying you have to believe what they say, but at least they have much more established credibility than someone no one here has ever heard of. 

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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #36 on: February 19, 2019, 07:14:32 AM »
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  • Ladislaus, any news from the TFP?

    Not yet.  I believe that he's been away on his travels (not sure where).

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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #37 on: February 19, 2019, 10:02:33 AM »
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  • CARRISSIMA, I HAD A COUPLE  RELATIVES THAT JUST CAME BACK FROM THERE ,THEY WERE AN EYEWITNESS ! THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.


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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #38 on: February 19, 2019, 01:14:32 PM »
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  • CARRISSIMA, I HAD A COUPLE  RELATIVES THAT JUST CAME BACK FROM THERE ,THEY WERE AN EYEWITNESS ! THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
    Eyewitnesses of what? That the Franciscans carried the statue? Again, like others have said here, Atila never said that the SSPX carried the statue: it was reported that THE SSPX ATTEMPTED to carry it, the Statue became "insurmountably heavy", and since the situation was so embarrassing, the Archbishop was called, who ordered the Franciscans to come in and carry the statue, which they did.
    It's incredible how people are misreading simple statements. Please read the article again CAREFULLY Cosmas!

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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #39 on: February 19, 2019, 01:47:33 PM »
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  • How about a statement from one of the sspx priests who allegedly tried to lift the statue?  Wouldn't that put the matter to rest?  This thread becomes sillier by the moment.  But then again, a lot of CI topics go poof and disappear down the memory hole.  Let's put this one out of its misery, as well.

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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #40 on: February 19, 2019, 02:09:46 PM »
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  • But then again, a lot of CI topics go poof and disappear down the memory hole.

    I don't like what you're implying.

    "the memory hole" is a reference to 1984, specifically what the evil, anti-truth "Ministry of Truth" would do to people who had been killed by the government, fallen out of favor, and any facts which didn't agree with The Party line.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_hole
    Inconvenient truths, articles, etc. were thrown into an incinerator, literally called "the memory hole" and then Winston and other workers had the job of re-writing history, newspapers, etc. to fit the new propaganda narrative (we were always at war with Oceania, so-and-so never existed, etc.)

    I don't appreciate you comparing me to the evil government of Big Brother, and suggesting that I am an enemy of the truth. Those are serious charges.

    You better have some evidence of your grave assertion. Especially since you say "a lot" of topics (not individual posts) go poof. Can you give any examples where I threw entire threads down the memory hole? (without good reason, that is. I don't apologize for deleting nonsense, duplicate, or spam threads)

    Moderating a forum (deleting inappropriate threads, removing threads by request of a priest, the original author, etc.) is NOT the same as making use of "the memory hole"!

    What's even more ridiculous is the context in which this charge was made. We're talking about SSPX foibles and problems in this thread. Why would I "memory hole" any thread to help cover up an SSPX problem? I'm hard core for the Resistance. That doesn't even make sense.

    Please explain yourself.
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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #41 on: February 19, 2019, 03:40:51 PM »
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  • OKAY, I'll make this as simple as I can, The Society Priests did not attempt to carry The Statue. The Franciscans carried the Statue.

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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #42 on: February 19, 2019, 04:25:30 PM »
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    Cosmas: OKAY, I'll make this as simple as I can, The Society Priests did not attempt to carry The Statue. The Franciscans carried the Statue.

    Well, you seem to speak with absolute confidence, and I, personally, have no reason to doubt you or your source(s).  So then, let's just put the topic to rest.  If after over 2500 views, and 40 responses the alleged 'heavy statue' story is a fabrication, and there is not a shred of truth to it, then let's just drop it.
    Sorry, Matthew, too many topics on CI, undeserving of seemingly exhaustless attention, and endless commentary, survive into the indefinite future.  We're talking now about topics which, sometimes, get 10,000 plus views, and hundreds of comments, long after they become irrelevant, long after the victim has died, turned to dust and blown to the wind.  This is fast turning into one of those topics.  Stick a fork in it!
    As for 'memory hole,' I apologize for using the term incorrectly.

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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #43 on: February 19, 2019, 09:45:51 PM »
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  • ...The Franciscans carried the Statue.
    That is an established fact stated several times, why do you keep repeating it?

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    Re: Statue of Our Lady of Good Success shows disfavor to SSPX priests?
    « Reply #44 on: February 19, 2019, 09:50:30 PM »
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  • OKAY, I'll make this as simple as I can, The Society Priests did not attempt to carry The Statue. 
    Because you’re family didn’t see them attempt to move it, then it never happened?
    Were these family members present in the Church 24 hours round the clock on the day of the procession and in view of the statue to see who came and went from it?