Author Topic: STATEMENT FROM MS. FAURE ON THE SCANDALOUS NOTE "MATER POPULI FIDELIS" (Read 1179 times)

ArmandLouis · « **on:** **Yesterday** at 01:37:15 PM »

Note the readers that with this statement by the superior general of the SAJM, the Resistance, the opposite of the FSSPX and its "prudent" silence about the pope, fulfills the duty to point out that Leo XIV is also responsible for the anti-Marian note "Mater populi fidelis", and not only the Card. Fernández (NP note).

On November 4, the whole world discovered with stupor and indignation the text that His Eminency, Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández, prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, had just published with the approval of the Pope.

The docuмent, entitled Mater Populi fidelis, is a "doctrinal note on some Marian titles that refer to Mary's cooperation in the work of salvation."

This text, with the false pretext of not undermining the function of Savior of Our Lord Jesus Christ, teaches that "the use of the title of "Corredentora" to define Mary's cooperation is always inappropriate" and that "special prudence is imposed in the application of the expression "Mediator" to Mary."

"The Supreme Pontiff León XIV, on October 7, 2025, feast of the Blessed Rosary, approved this Note, deliberated during the ordinary session of this Dicastery, dated March 26, 2025, and ordered its publication."

The scandal is huge. Remember that the prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith is one of the most important positions in the Vatican after the Cardinal Secretary of State. Thus, we have the two highest authorities of the Catholic Church in doctrinal matters who, before the eyes of the world, slap our holy Mother with the false pretext of respect for her Son and with the clearly confessed objective of ecuмenism.

Although the titles of Corredentora and Mediator of all graces have not yet been dogmatically defined, this statement goes against Tradition: numerous theologians (and among the most serious, such as Father Garrigou-Lagrange, O.P.) have theologically established these attributes of Our Lady, and even some popes have used this term in their teachings.

• Pope Pius IX, Bull Ineffabilis Deus, of December 8, 1854, which defines the dogma of the Immaculate Conception:

"In the same way, as all Christian faithful must know and fully understand, the Blessed Virgin Mary, from the first moment of her conception, was preserved intact from every stain of original sin, by a singular grace and privilege of Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of mankind; thus it is clear to all that she has been honored by Our Lord Jesus Christ, her Only Begotten Son, with a love so great and elevated to such an eminent dignity that, united to him by a very intimate and indissoluble bond, she powerfully intercedes before him, and is the mediator And a lawyer of the whole world; for very great is the grace that she enjoys before God, and very effective are her intercessions."

• Pope Leo XIII, encyclical Magnae Dei Matris, of September 8, 1892, the fifth of the eleven encyclicals written by Pope Leo XIII on the rosary:

"... To his intercession we attribute the numerous and remarkable gifts that we have received from God..."

· Pope St. Pius X (1903-1914), in the encyclical Ad diem illum of February 2, 1904:

"The consequence of this communion of feelings and sufferings between Mary and Jesus is that Mary "legitimately deserved to become the repairer of the fallen humanity" (Eadmeri mon., De Excellentia Virg. Mariæ, c. IX) and, therefore, the dispenser of all the treasures that Jesus has acquired from us by his death and by his blood (...) due to this society of pain and anguish, already mentioned, between the Mother and the Son, this austus Virgin has been granted "to be with her only Son as the powerful mediator and advocate of the whole world" (Pius IX, in Bull Ineffabilis)".

"However, because Mary surpasses everyone in holiness and union with Jesus Christ, and because Jesus Christ associated her with the work of redemption, she deserves for us in accordance, in theological language, what Jesus Christ deserves for us as worthy; and she is the supreme minister of the dispensing of graces" from the beginning to the end of the story of salvation.

Finally, it should be noted that Pope Benedict XV granted permission in 1921 to all the dioceses of Belgium, as well as to all the dioceses that requested it, to celebrate their own mass and office in honor of Mary Mediator of all graces, on May 31.

It is worth remembering here that God wanted devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary precisely to repair the blasphemies against Our Lady...

In her letter addressed to Father Gonçalves, on January 4, 1936, Sister Lucia wrote about devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary: "It is about (...) imploring forgiveness and mercy in favor of the souls who blaspheme against Our Lady, because those souls divine mercy does not forgive without reparation... »

And, in her conversation with Father Agustín Fuentes, on December 26, 1957, Sister Lucía added: "Let us remember that Jesus Christ is a good son and that he does not allow us to offend and despise his most holy Mother."

Here the attacks come from the two highest dignitaries of the Holy Church, who are above all in charge of defending the orthodoxy of the doctrine and the honor of Our Lord and Our Lady.

Everyone knows that the eruption of Mount Pelée in 1902 occurred after a blasphemous via crucis; what is less known is that the first serious signs of the eruption appeared after a blasphemous procession against the Blessed Virgin... No one makes fun of God, and even less of his most holy Mother.

Miserere nobis Domine!

Let us pray and do penance, as the Virgin of Fatima has insistently reminded us.

That, through her powerful mediation, the Virgin Corredentora revives the faith of her children and give us the courage to protest and repair.

« A great sign appeared in the sky: a woman dressed in the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars above her head. Revelation XII, 1

"I will put enmity between you and the woman, between your offspring and hers: she will crush your head and you will hurt her heel." Genesis III, 15.

Ms. Jean-Michel FAURE

Miseremini · « **Reply #1 on:** **Yesterday** at 01:46:23 PM »

How was the SSPX silent? They called it a "diatribe" and then called for a crusade of reparation.
They also called out the Muslin prayer room and the new bible translation with LGBT overtones previously.

The Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith Attacks the Blessed Virgin Mary

November 11, 2025
Source: FSSPX News

Cardinal Manuel Victor Fernandez, Prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith

The Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF) has just published a new docuмent at least as scandalous as Fiducia Supplicans, since it attacks the Blessed Virgin Mary, our Mother, by denying her titles that have been bestowed upon her throughout the history of the Church, sanctioned by several popes, and highly regarded by theologians.
The diatribe by Cardinal Victor Fernandez, Prefect of the DDF, is entitled Mater Populi Fidelis (Mother of the Faithful People). He explains, without a hint of irony, that his pamphlet aims to deepen the "true foundations of Marian devotion," and that this implies "a profound fidelity to Catholic identity and, at the same time, a particular ecuмenical effort."
In other words, Marian devotion must look to the errors, heresies, and impieties of non-Catholics toward the Mother of God. That is a peculiar way to manifest one's piety toward the one who is our mother. The Church—until Vatican II—never needed to squint to contemplate the truth.
The InfoCatolica website aptly comments on this recourse to ecuмenism: “Some analysts have been struck by the recourse to the mantra of ecuмenism, as in the 1970s. The most significant recent break with ecuмenism is the docuмent Fiducia Supplicans, by Cardinal Fernández himself, and there seems to be no revision.”
Pope Francis Considers It “Nonsense”
As noted in an article in FSSPX.News– see link at end of article – during his homily for the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe in St. Peter’s Basilica on December 12, 2019, Pope Francis spoke dismissively of the title of Co-Redemptrix. This rejection is impious, as it is a well-established tradition, adopted and developed by several popes, even after Vatican II.
In this homily, Francis, after accepting three titles – woman or lady, mother, and disciple – resolutely rejects the title of Co-Redemptrix. He adds that it is “nonsense,” but the English translation uses the term “folly,” and consulting the original gives us an even stronger meaning: “nonsense” or “stupidity.” This sermon is cited in a footnote in the DDF docuмent.
The Co-Redemption of the Virgin Mary
One need only consult any pre-conciliar treatise on Mariology to realize the importance that the notion of co-redemption, applied to the Virgin Mary, had acquired in theological thought over the past five centuries. To be convinced of this, one need only recall the words of the popes, from Pius IX, the Pope of the Immaculate Conception, to Pius XII, the Pope of the Assumption.
Pius IX
In the bull Ineffabilis Deus, which proclaimed the dogma of the Immaculate Conception in 1854, Pius IX wrote: “Hence, just as Christ, the Mediator between God and man, assumed human nature, blotted the handwriting of the decree that stood against us, and fastened it triumphantly to the cross, so the most holy Virgin, united with him by a most intimate and indissoluble bond, was, with him and through him, eternally at enmity with the evil serpent, and most completely triumphed over him, and thus crushed his head with her immaculate foot.” While the word “co-redemptrix” does not appear, the idea and its reality are clearly expressed.
Leo XIII
Several texts by Pope Leo XIII also express this doctrine. The encyclical Supremi Apostolatus Officio (1883) states: “And truly the Immaculate Virgin, chosen to be the Mother of God and thereby associated with Him in the work of man's salvation, has a favor and power with her Son greater than any human or angelic creature has ever obtained, or ever can gain.”
In an encyclical on the Rosary, Jucunda Semper (1894), the same Pope teaches: “There stood by the Cross of Jesus His Mother, who, in a miracle of charity, so that she might receive us as her sons, offered generously to Divine Justice her own Son, and died in her heart with Him, stabbed with the sword of sorrow.”
In the Apostolic Constitution Ubi Primum (1898), concerning the Confraternity of the Rosary, this is stated: “When first, by the secret designs of Divine Providence, we were promoted to the Chair of Peter…Our mind at once turned to the great Mother of God, who was a partner in the work of man’s Redemption.”
Finally, in the encyclical Adjutricem Populi (1895), Leo XIII gives the fullest expression of this co-redemption, associating it with the Universal Mediation of Mary: “From her heavenly abode she began, by God’s decree, to watch over the Church, to assist and befriend us as our mother; so that she who was so intimately associated with the mystery of human salvation is just as closely associated with the distribution of the graces which for all time will flow from the Redemption.”
St. Pius X
This holy Pope also addressed the doctrine of co-redemption in his famous encyclical Ad Diem Illum (1904), for the fiftieth anniversary of the proclamation of the dogma of the Immaculate Conception: “And from this community of will and suffering between Christ and Mary she merited to become most worthily the Reparatrix of the lost world (Eadmeri Mon. De Excellentia Virg. Mariae, c. 9) and Dispensatrix of all the gifts that Our Savior purchased for us by His Death and by His Blood.” The holy Pope emphasizes the link between co-redemption and universal mediation.
During the pontificate of this glorious Pope, a decree of the Holy Office dated June 26, 1913, praised “the practice of adding to the name of Jesus that of his Mother, our co-redemptrix, the Blessed Virgin Mary.” The same congregation granted an indulgence for the recitation of the prayer in which Mary is called "co-redemptrix of the human race," on January 22, 1914.
Benedict XV
In turn, he spoke of this doctrine in his Letter Inter Solidacia: “The fact that she was with Him crucified and dying, was in accord with the divine plan. For with her suffering and dying Son, Mary endured suffering and almost death. She gave up her mother's rights over her Son to procure the salvation of mankind, and to appease the Divine Justice, she, as much as she could, immolated her Son, so that one can truly affirm that together with Christ she has redeemed the human race. . . for this reason, every kind of grace we receive from the treasury of the Redemption is ministered as it were through the hands of the same Sorrowful Virgin.”
Pius XI
In his letter Explorata Res (February 2, 1923), he offers this beautiful praise to the Mother of Heaven: “Nor would he incur eternal death whom the Most Blessed Virgin assists, especially at his last hour. This opinion of the Doctors of the Church, in harmony with the sentiments of the Christian people, and supported by the experience of all times, depends especially on this reason, the fact that the Sorrowful Virgin shared in the work of the Redemption with Jesus Christ.”
He was the first Pope to use the term Co-Redemptrix. In his radio message to the pilgrims of Lourdes, he offered this prayer: “O Mother of piety and mercy, who as Co-Redemptrix stood by your most sweet Son, suffering with Him when He consummated the Redemption of the human race on the altar of the Cross. . . preserve in us, we beg, day by day, the precious fruits of the Redemption and of your compassion” (April 29, 1935).
And in the address to the pilgrims of Vicenza (November 30, 1933), he clearly stated: “By the nature of His work, the Redeemer had to have associated His Mother with His work. For this reason, We invoke her under the title of Co-Redemptrix.”
Pius XII
The angelic pastor described the co-redemption of Mary several times, even if he did not use the word. In the encyclical Mystici Corporis (1947), for example: “She it was who . . . bearing with courage and confidence the tremendous burden of her sorrows and desolation, she, truly the Queen of Martyrs, more than all the faithful ‘filled up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ . . . for His Body, which is the Church’(Col 1:24).”
While the term “co-redemptrix” is not found in this Pope’s writings, the doctrine is there with all possible clarity and development. Consider this quotation from the encyclical Ad Caeli Reginam (1954), on the queenship of Mary:
“Now, in the accomplishing of this work of Redemption, the Blessed Virgin Mary was most closely associated with Christ.” … For “just as Christ, because He redeemed us, is our Lord and King by a special title, so the Blessed Virgin also (is our Queen), on account of the unique manner in which she assisted in our Redemption, by giving of her own substance, by freely offering Him for us, by her singular desire and petition for, and active interest in, our salvation.”
The Second Vatican Council and Subsequent Popes
Mater Populi Fidelis states that “the Second Vatican Council refrained from using the title [of Co-Redemptrix] for dogmatic, pastoral, and ecuмenical reasons.” What an admission! It even adds that John Paul II used it on “at least seven occasions,” but this carries little weight in the eyes of the authors. They focus primarily on the opposition of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who considered it an “erroneous term.”
As for Pope Francis, he has expressed his opposition to the use of the title Co-Redemptrix at least three times. The text goes on to add, “When an expression requires many, repeated explanations to prevent it from straying from a correct meaning, it does not serve the faith of the People of God and becomes unhelpful.”
The InfoCatolica website could not resist commenting that Cardinal Fernandez “is still trying to explain how Fiducia Supplicans can speak of blessings that aren’t blessings to couples who aren’t couples. Is he doing a service to ‘the faith of the people of God’?”
It must be said that the rejection of the titles of the Blessed Virgin, especially those of Co-Redemptrix and Mediatrix, has its origins in ecuмenism. Already, at the proclamation of the dogma of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin in 1950, modernists were alarmed, seeing it as a new obstacle to reconciliation with Protestants.
At the Second Vatican Council, the Fathers simply removed the prepared schema on the Blessed Virgin, so as not to give it too much importance, and made it a mere chapter of the Lumen Gentium, the constitution on the Church. The Council recognized Mary's titles such as Advocate, Helper, Benefactor, and even Mediatrix, and proclaims her Mother of the Church, but the trend was toward minimalism.
Ultimately, Marian devotion as a whole is distorted by this new text, which seeks to replace the glorious titles of Co-Redemptrix and Mediatrix with titles like "Mother of Believers" (even Muslims call themselves "believers"), "Mother of Grace," or "Mother of the Faithful People," which effectively excludes specific details rejected by non-Catholics.
Related Article:

Pope Francis Considers the Virgin’s Title as Co-Redemptrix “Foolishness”

(Sources : Saint-Siège/FSSPX.Actualités – FSSPX.Actualités)

Tarmac Turkey · « **Reply #2 on:** **Yesterday** at 01:50:49 PM »

Bishop Dom Thomas Aquinas' short note on the matter:

On the Holy See's declaration and the Marian titles of Co-Redemptrix and Mediatrix

Mosteiro da Santa Cruz
Nov 13
1 min read

Just as God gave to Adam, in the person of Eve, a helper similar to himself, so too God gave to the new Adam (Jesus Christ), Mary, the new Eve, as a helper similar to Him. The Most Holy Virgin Mary is therefore the helper similar to Our Lord: adjutorium simile sibi (Gen. 2:18), who shares in the work of Redemption as taught by the Magisterium of the Church.

The Church has gathered the arguments of the Fathers and Doctors, and has already spoken on this prerogative on more than one occasion. However, the privilege of Co-redemption, as well as that of the mediation of all graces, has not yet been proclaimed a dogma. Without a doubt, the Second Vatican Council was the great obstacle to such a declaration.

The conciliar Church does not cease to place obstacles before true doctrine, for it is a new Church, a new religion that has taken the place of the true one. As long as this situation endures, there will hardly be authentic dogmatic definitions, for the liberals and modernists have corrupted the eternal notion of truth, as Saint Pius X teaches.

Let us ask Our Lady, Co-Redemptrix of the human race, to come to the aid of the Holy Church.

+ Thomas Aquinas O.S.B

Incredulous · « **Reply #3 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:14:47 PM »

Goodness gracious... that Luciferian nose is as big as a watermelon!

Plenus Venter · « **Reply #4 on:** **Yesterday** at 06:43:49 PM »

Quote from: Miseremini on Yesterday at 01:46:23 PM

How was the SSPX silent? They called it a "diatribe" and then called for a crusade of reparation.
They also called out the Muslin prayer room and the new bible translation with LGBT overtones previously.

They were silent about THE POPE approving this.
What an abomination.
It was exactly the same at my local SSPX.
Not a mention of the Pope.
As one of the SSPX priests admitted to me recently: "we certainly aren't free to speak about some things as we used to", or words to that effect.
And they NEVER draw the appropriate and necessary conclusions to protect the Faith and the faithful: "How is it possible that the Vicar of Christ could approve such a thing? What a mystery!". "We must seriously doubt whether these churchmen have the Faith". "How could we possibly cooperate with such people? They are working for the destruction of the Church, we are working for its edification". And so on...
So it is a very deliberate omission, and with a purpose: to hold onto their perceived privileges and to continue on track towards being absorbed by modernist Rome. Of that there is no doubt. The Society is infiltrated by the enemy. Gradualism and subtle decline are the order of the day.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #5 on:** **Today** at 03:56:33 PM »

Quote from: ArmandLouis on Yesterday at 01:37:15 PM

The scandal is huge. Remember that the prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith is one of the most important positions in the Vatican after the Cardinal Secretary of State. Thus, we have the two highest authorities of the Catholic Church in doctrinal matters ...

So, the scandal is huger that we have a Traditional Catholic bishop calling these men the "two highest authorities of the Catholic Church in doctrinal matters..."

On the other hand, anyone who still had a shred of Catholic faith left simply ignored this nonsense from Tucho and Pervost, and thus there was no scandal.

... for shame.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #6 on:** **Today** at 03:59:54 PM »

Quote from: Miseremini on Yesterday at 01:46:23 PM

How was the SSPX silent?

They weren't. But OP didn't want facts to get in the way of attacking SSPX. There's plenty there to criticize, but let's not slander them by making things up. In the middle of the text, they denounced Bergoglio's rejection of the title as "impious".

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