I am very confused by this terrible video -- warning: horrible actions showing -- made by a korean supporter of bishop williamson who is posting on this forum:



surely this is not legitimate?! he is wanting to attack doctrinal preamble by stamping -- or getting a child, which is worse, to stamp -- on a picture of our Lord?!?

please i ask the creator (who is posting here) to remove this terrible video.

There are a lot of comments made by so-called supporters of Bishop Williamson here that are clearly sinful and filled with pride and arrogance, even going so far as publicly maligning priests and bishops they disagree with. I think even Bishop Williamson himself would be horrified to see their behavior. Absolutely unbelievable! And to even consider themselves Christians, and Traditional Catholics! Satan is really at large and at work!

I am not going to look at the video, a few points.

Did he actually stomp on a picture of our Lord? That would be sacrilidge. You cannot justify it in a stageplay either.

If he did, how is that a reflection on other Bishop Williamson supporters? By this logic, There are many Bishop Fellay supporters that are willful mortal sinners and living in sin, would that be a reflection on Bishop Fellay and his like?

Lucca's zeal is commendable, and it seems evident he didn't really touch the image, however, it is probably not the best conceived video idea.

It is best sometimes to hold back an idea or production for a time, and take a look at it in another mood, it makes it easier to judge if it is effective or not.

I agree Ethelred that they are trying to detract from the issue, but then that is why we must always be on our guard to make sure we are in the right.

I am not a moral theologian, so I'm not entirely sure based on what you said about what it would be now. I don't think it would be sacrilidge, but it could be a form of blaspheme, though I doubt that was his intention. I am very suspicious of alot of the new people here, I really think alot of them are here as inflitrators especially to make us appear the villains.

For instance in another thread there are two people calling themselves trads who are promoting Adolf Hitler and the nαzι party, despite the fact I showed what the Church really thought of them during that period. They deliberately are preaching the liberal rhetoric that "Petain and Franco are like the nαzι's" which is rediculous and liberal propoganda. I find it interesting because many of the Fellayites particularly Father Phluger accuse Bishop Williamson of being a nαzι. This is of course a lie, he merely questions the laughable Six-million figure the Jєωs exaggerate and lie about to gain sympathy for their anti-christ agenda. But at the same time the nαzι's had an anti-christ agenda of their own and cannot be defended. So I think it is a sham to paint us in a certain way.

However I doubt Lucca is an infiltrator, as Tele states I think he merely had bad judgement. I think everyone should take Tele's advice to step back and think about what we're about to do in a different mood before doing it so as not to do something rash.

Otherwise we could put ourselves in the positions of weakening our own movement who's sole purpose is the salvation of souls. Of course if we turn people away because we were rash or angry and said or did something stupid then we injure their souls and thus our own aswell.

It is food for thought.

A good tree cannot produce bad fruit and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit. If we commit an offense, then for that moment at least we were the bad tree.

This is the discription below my youtube video.

" What shoud you choose for our God?
More than hundred years ago, Huge Martyrdom was there in South Korea Kingdom. Catholics had to choose.
If they wanted to live, they should have trod on the Holy Picture of Our Jesus Christ or Blessed Virgin Mary. This action was the sign of betrayal.
If they don't wanted to betray God, They chose not to tread on the Holy Picture of Our Jesus Christ or Blessed Virgin Mary. Then they were beheaded. Stepping on that Pictures means betrayal at that time.
Alas, Today's traditional catholics tread on their true faith with a thin sheet of paper Vatican II Doctrinal Preamble. Then, didn't you tread on?"


This is the drama video I tried to show the meaning of SSPX-Rome Deal.


In this video, the foot is mine(gray socks). the voice is of my daughter. We were actor and actress in this drama. I played the role as Bishop Fellay, my dauhter played the role as faithful who resist the deal.

I love Jesus Christ, but I had to play as an actor. Don't be confused.



Stamping on is betrayal even if you cover a sheet of paper on picture of Jesus Christ before stamping.

1. Rome want the Fellay team to betray the True Faith of Jesus Christ.
( Rome want Fellay to stamp on the picture of Jesus Christ.
It was the action of betrayal during the South Korean Kingdom's Persecution hundred years ago)

2. Fellay don't want to do the betrayal action, so he's hesitating
( Gray socks of Fellay is waiting )

3. Rome has a good idea. The idea is that if Fellay stamp on after covering a sheet of paper on the picture of Jesus Christ, Fellay don't have to feel guilty. Because it is not stamping directly on the Face of Our Jesus Christ.
(Rome and Fellay prepared the sheet of paper and cover it on the picture of Jesus Christ.)

4. Then Fellay stamp on the picture after covering on the picture by this sheet of paper.
(Gray socks are stamping on)

5. Faithful's resisting the stamping-on.
(My daugter cry out 'No, No...')

6. What is this paper which gave comportable feeling to Fellay when he stamp on?
('mere' Preamble of Doctrinal agreement)