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ST. MARY'S MODESTY
« on: August 04, 2019, 12:38:53 AM »
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  • Why are the women's skirts getting so short at Mass at St. Mary's nowadays.  Visiting there is actually starting to get unpleasant and I never thought I'd say that.  I truly can't believe it.  Why has it become such a problem?  Maybe it's time to make announcements?
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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #1 on: August 04, 2019, 01:02:48 AM »
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  • I’ve been to St. Mary’s once, in 2011.  A person who moved from there in 2003 jokingly informed me that the women and girls all wore prairie dresses and frumpy denim jumpers, so I’d better make sure my skirts and dresses met Padre Pio standards.  To my surprise and sometimes dismay, I stood out because with the exception of maybe a few old ladies and one large family, my hemline was noticeably longer than that of nearly every female.  During the week, I noticed teenaged girls I’d seen at Mass in town wearing shorts and t-shirts.  It was not at all what I expected from the U.S. “headquarters” of the SSPX.  In addition to short skirts, many wore their clothes too tight with nearly sleeveless cap-sleeve tops and scooped out necklines.  The men, too, dressed much more casually than I was used to, although I cannot accuse them of being immodest.
    When I met with a particular priest, I was somewhat embarrassed (for the women of St. Mary’s) when he commented positively upon my clothing.  
    That was eight years ago.  I imagine it hasn’t improved.  
    Yes, it probably is time for a sermon on proper attire, but any priest who speaks out should have travel and housing arrangements in place and his bags packed, ready to go!  


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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #2 on: August 04, 2019, 10:47:17 AM »
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  • Why are the women's skirts getting so short at Mass at St. Mary's nowadays.  Visiting there is actually starting to get unpleasant and I never thought I'd say that.  I truly can't believe it.  Why has it become such a problem?  Maybe it's time to make announcements?
    Because the SSPX priests could care less about the modesty of the young girls. There can be no other excuse, as I have seen that all the girls that go off to St. Mary's and Syracuse ALL come back in the summer and all dress to mass to attract men (tight skirts above the knees, tight tops, high heels...) and in the street they wear the short shorts, tight jeand, spandex leggings, belly exposed and bikinis.  

    I see it in our chapel, and the pastor has never said ONE WORD to the parents or from the pulpit. He is oblivious to it all and could care less. Unmarried girls are getting pregnant all over the place and many more to come. Not a word from the pulpit. The pastor could care less and the parents are obviously, idiots.
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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #3 on: August 04, 2019, 11:15:44 AM »
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  • Because the SSPX priests could care less about the modesty of the young girls. There can be no other excuse, as I have seen that all the girls that go off to St. Mary's and Syracuse ALL come back in the summer and all dress to mass to attract men (tight skirts above the knees, tight tops, high heels...) and in the street they wear the short shorts, tight jeand, spandex leggings, belly exposed and bikinis.  

    I see it in our chapel, and the pastor has never said ONE WORD to the parents or from the pulpit. He is oblivious to it all and could care less. Unmarried girls are getting pregnant all over the place and many more to come. Not a word from the pulpit. The pastor could care less and the parents are obviously, idiots.

    Because the SSPX priests could NOT care  less about the modesty of the young girls

    Could care less means the priests actually care which is not what I think you meant
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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #4 on: August 04, 2019, 11:24:55 AM »
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  • I used to live there and while I think the modesty there is better than most places I've been, I have to say I was a bit shocked by some of the younger girls when they would show up to anything outside of St. Mary's. I was friends with some of them on Facebook and couldn't believe they were posting pictures of themselves in basically bikinis on total public display. I had to unfriend them because as a male, the last thing I need in some young girl I know dressed in a bikini showing up in my feed.

    I'm not sure why priests aren't saying more about this. I have noticed it in the FSSP parish I attend. Literally half the women don't even veil now, it's really strange. The skirts are getting shorter, and the heels higher. This is from MARRIED women too. Married women... with like 6 kids. It's really the husbands fault though, he should not allow his wife to dress like that at mass knowing full well it is sexually appealing to other men. Just today I watched a new family where the wife is wearing 6 inch heels and a short skirts and I knew this was going to happen, but I saw married men staring at her and following her across the Church, literally moving their heads staring at her. She is very pretty, I don't deny it, but she has 6 kids and is married, she has no business dressing that way and men should do a better job of keeping custody of the eyes.

    Now, there are plenty of well dressed modest women there too, but just writing one little thing in the bulletin is not good enough. Priests need to really preach this hard from the pulpit. It is not easy for us men, and our priests aren't helping the situation.


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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #5 on: August 04, 2019, 11:47:24 AM »
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  • As I read through the posts, these topics passed through my mind:

    1) Worldliness

    2) Strident women

    3) Makeup, pants, and skirts threads (women resisting traditional norms, and men defending them in this)

    4) They hated +BW for this

    5) “SSPX Hotties” thread from a couple years ago 

    6) SSPX fixated on numbers doesn’t risk unpopular sermons

    7) Too many men of weak will not assuming leadership at home

    8) Coincides with ralliement 

    9) CCCC posts on encroaching worldliness and pics

    10) Pic from a couple years ago of woman next to +BF in very short skirt for consecration of bells eliciting no protest

    11) Mercedes Benz seminarians

    12) SSPX news babes

    13) District office women all in pants
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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2019, 12:02:20 PM »
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  • As I read through the posts, these topics passed through my mind:

    1) Worldliness

    2) Strident women

    3) Makeup, pants, and skirts threads (women resisting traditional norms, and men defending them in this)

    4) They hated +BW for this

    5) “SSPX Hotties” thread from a couple years ago

    6) SSPX fixated on numbers doesn’t risk unpopular sermons

    7) Too many men of weak will not assuming leadership at home

    8) Coincides with ralliement

    9) CCCC posts on encroaching worldliness and pics

    10) Pic from a couple years ago of woman next to +BF in very short skirt for consecration of bells eliciting no protest

    11) Mercedes Benz seminarians

    12) SSPX news babes

    13) District office women all in pants
    I live in St. Marys and this list sums it up.

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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #7 on: August 04, 2019, 12:14:14 PM »
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  • Too many think that by moving to St. Mary's their efforts to stay Catholic, to save their soul, etc. are "One and Done". Americans love one-time, external, one-and-done solutions to problems. Too bad it's not always that easy...

    Americans want to get prepped? They have a bunker installed, or buy a years worth of freeze dried food and some seeds. DONE!
    Americans want to keep the Faith? They move to St. Marys. DONE!
    Americans want to get in shape? They buy an exercise bike and/or sign up for a Gym membership. DONE!
    Americans want to be successful? They jump through the hoops of getting a college degree. DONE!

    Sorry, but many things in life require constant effort and much work to achieve. You can't achieve many things just by throwing money at it, or a quick, emotion-fueled burst of physical activity.


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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #8 on: August 04, 2019, 11:58:41 PM »
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  • Most of the priests are not bothered. They are slowly but surely slipping into the Conciliar Church. Their own personal comforts are taking a priority. Looks like even Menzingen wants to soften any resistance to its present direction by a policy of ease and comfort for its members.

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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #9 on: August 05, 2019, 03:02:41 AM »
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  • I wouldn’t be surprised if there were people paid to move there with their families to infiltrate and corrupt the area.  Wasn’t there an incident where a Catholic from there hosted a political fundraiser to support pro abortion candidate?  
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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #10 on: August 05, 2019, 08:11:55 AM »
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  • Most of the priests are not bothered. 

    This is the bottom line. Even those of us who know and care and try have to be reminded over and over again. On these topics the priests have to repeat themselves probably twice a year in every parish and not walk on eggshells. They have to be prepared and willing to be hated for it. I say this as a woman, we will push every line we can, wherever we can, whenever we can, if it will give us that feeling of being "pretty" for the innocents girls, or "wanted" for the not-so innocent girls. That is a feeling many women get addicted to whether they realize it or not. It causes highs and lows and dependency just like a drug. Combine that with the fact that no one around us is dressed anymore and we get desensitized. The problem isn't going to resolve itself without strong leadership from the men.  


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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #11 on: August 05, 2019, 09:34:45 AM »
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  • Sspx wedding last year:

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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #12 on: August 05, 2019, 09:40:06 AM »
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  • The priest is dressed in Novus Ordo vestments, the altar boy wears an alb, and there are no altar cards, missal or chalice. Looks completely N.O. to me. What makes you think it has to do with the SSPX?

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    « Reply #13 on: August 05, 2019, 10:07:52 AM »
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  • Yeah that's definitely not an SSPX wedding.

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    Re: ST. MARY'S MODESTY
    « Reply #14 on: August 05, 2019, 10:28:12 AM »
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  • This is the bottom line. Even those of us who know and care and try have to be reminded over and over again. On these topics the priests have to repeat themselves probably twice a year in every parish and not walk on eggshells. They have to be prepared and willing to be hated for it. I say this as a woman, we will push every line we can, wherever we can, whenever we can, if it will give us that feeling of being "pretty" for the innocents girls, or "wanted" for the not-so innocent girls. That is a feeling many women get addicted to whether they realize it or not. It causes highs and lows and dependency just like a drug. Combine that with the fact that no one around us is dressed anymore and we get desensitized. The problem isn't going to resolve itself without strong leadership from the men.  
    An addiction, excellent observation. I have written many times on the same subject.


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    Fathers need to take an active role in the teaching of their children specially the girls, instead of relying on a school to teach them. …. They need to teach the girls how to dress modestly and how to avoid the trap (the lie), the flaw, that practically all women of today have, that their self esteem comes from and their beauty is judged by how good they are at attracting men. Men are attracted to any women that is easy, it has nothing to do with beauty, at least not in the short term (but long enough to get them pregnant!). Moreover, mother's have been teaching their daughters for generations that the way to get a man is to lure them with flirting (and allowing touches, hugs, kisses, fondling and …….). That is a sure beginning of a life of misery for women, being passed from one man to the other for the rest of their lives. It is like Russian roulette.

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