Author Topic: SSPXers No Longer Know Why Their Parents Were SSPXers (Read 1228 times)

bowler · « **on:** October 29, 2012, 02:34:11 PM »

Mr. Krah in Ignis Ardens said this in defense of his favorable attitude towards women wearing miniskirts, high heels and such:

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Pre-Vatican II-magisterium" does not tell anything about fashion. Once again, you add to the faith what not belong to. ....All we have about fashion are conclusions outside of dogma, which are always dependend to the time, the place, and the people which are affected.

These comments above indicate to me glaringly, that here is yet another young man that has not learned the faith while attending an SSPX chapel. Indeed, he has not learned the faith while being in the closest contact with the highest officials in the SSPX! This does not surprise me though, for during the last 10 years or so, I have observed that the SSPX has changed into an indult like group like the Fraternity of St Peter, that is down to offering the bare minimum, a reverent Sunday mass. The old fervor for teaching doctrine, the "why we do what we do", why the SSPX was created, has been lost. The new parishioners no longer know the faith, nor the reasons why we were SSPXers. The SSPX has been dumbing down the faithful 10 years or more. Now, the new generation, no longer knows doctrine. It is no surprise that the Menzingen crowd can do as they want, the new SSPXers don't see, don't know any reason why, they should not be like all the other indult groups that are with Rome.

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On every USA SSPX Chapel is posted a dress code, and it forbids mini-skirts and form fit tight fit revealing clothing. The reason for that is that real men, are tempted to sin by these fashions. It's very simple really, and should not require explanation to a Catholic. High heels, mini-skirts, exposed belly, tight stretch tops, all of those fashions, send more people to hell than any other sins.

"Among adults there are few saved because of the sins of the flesh....With exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned". (St. Remigius of Rheims)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #1 on:** October 29, 2012, 02:36:40 PM »

Don't kid yourself. People who claim to be traditionalists who speak in favor of such fashions know what the Church teaches about modesty and they flaunt their contempt and rejection of such teachings.

You're right Traditional Catholics of the younger generation have gradually been conditioned, by laxism and contempt for sound moral instruction, to be indifferent about those who reject such teachings.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #2 on:** October 29, 2012, 02:39:39 PM »

Apparently this character has never heard of the ordinary magisterium of the bishops.

Actually, he almost surely has, but he doesn't care, does he?

You can't really care about modesty if you praise immodesty. There probably wasn't a bishop in the world prior to Vatican II who would have said a miniskirt is modest, and approved it being worn in church.

bowler · « **Reply #3 on:** October 29, 2012, 02:53:40 PM »

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Apparently this character has never heard of the ordinary magisterium of the bishops..

I didn't come back to the Church till later in life. When I didn't know anything about the ordinary magisterium, I knew at first sight EXACTLY what our lady was talking about when I first read:

"More souls go to hell for sins of the flesh than for any other reason".

"Certain fashions will be introduced which will offend Our Divine Lord very much. "

This young man Krah does not know the bare minimum. How could a person who "hangs around" with the highest officials of the SSPX know so little? It is because this is not the SSPX of old. They have taught him the same as they have been teaching the young SSPXers the last 10 years or so, AIR.

The people who started the SSPX, started it as independent chapels, they were started as sanctuaries, islands, to save the faith from the world. They knew the world and all it's allurements, they knew the truth. Those people can't be easily fooled, they had already been fooled, or never were, in other words they had fighting experience.

Today, the vast majority of SSPXers are just people who have "shown up", and come to go to a reverent mass. They do not even know why these chapels were created in the first place. They have not ben taught the "why's" by the SSPX hierarchy for 10 years.

bowler · « **Reply #4 on:** October 29, 2012, 03:17:03 PM »

The SSPX is down to providing the bare minimum, a reverent mass. No longer are they teaching about the "controversial issues", like the errors of the conciliar popes, Assisi, Organized Naturalism, validity of the New Rite of episcopal consecrations, specifics on women’s fashions etc., all they teach today is AIR, just like the indult mass communities. The new SSPXers are AIRheads, just like the indult mass laity.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #5 on:** October 29, 2012, 03:57:10 PM »

No matter how unsurprised I am, I can't help but find it disturbing

Telesphorus · « **Reply #6 on:** October 29, 2012, 03:59:50 PM »

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No matter how unsurprised I am, I can't help but find it disturbing

It's the cold-blooded cynicism of Menzingen that's disturbing.