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Offline Wessex

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SSPX US district qualifies Bp. Fellays "enemies of the Church"
« on: January 07, 2013, 08:24:48 AM »
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  • SSPX USA District press release
    Bishop Fellay's comment "enemies of the Church"



    1-5-2013

    During a 2-hour conference given in Ontario, Canada on December 28th, 2012, Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the Society St. Pius X, commented on the relations between the Holy See and the SSPX during the last two years.

    During the conference Bishop Fellay stated “Who, during that time, was the most opposed that the Church would recognize the Society? The enemies of the Church. The Jєωs, the Masons, the Modernists…”

    The word "enemies" used here by Bishop Fellay is of course a religious concept and refers to any group or religious sect which opposes the mission of the Catholic Church and her efforts to fulfill it: the salvation of souls.

    This religious context is based upon the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ as recorded in the Holy Gospels: “He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth.” (Matthew 12:30)

    By referring to the Jєωs, Bishop Fellay's comment was aimed at the leaders of Jєωιѕн organizations, and not the Jєωιѕн people, as is being implied by journalists.

    Accordingly the Society of St. Pius X denounces the repeated false accusations of anti-Semitism or hate speech made in an attempt to silence its message.

    SOURCE





    Offline Mea Culpa

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    SSPX US district qualifies Bp. Fellays "enemies of the Church"
    « Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 09:04:38 AM »
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  • If Bp. Fellay can accept 95% of Vatican II, there's really no need for him to have any enemies.

    Bp. Fellay's Church did have some so called "enemies"......but, that disobedient bunch have been taken care of and are being thrown out into the streets.  

    So, yeah....no real enemies.  

     :sign-surrender:
     


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    SSPX US district qualifies Bp. Fellays "enemies of the Church"
    « Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 10:32:54 AM »
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  • Ok he steps in the **stuff** and walks away smelling like roses?????????????  

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?????????

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    SSPX US district qualifies Bp. Fellays "enemies of the Church"
    « Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 04:30:02 PM »
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    SSPX USA District press release
    Bishop Fellay's comment "enemies of the Church"



    1-5-2013

    During a 2-hour conference given in Ontario, Canada on December 28th, 2012, Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the Society St. Pius X, commented on the relations between the Holy See and the SSPX during the last two years.

    During the conference Bishop Fellay stated “Who, during that time, was the most opposed that the Church would recognize the Society? The enemies of the Church. The Jєωs, the Masons, the Modernists…”

    The word "enemies" used here by Bishop Fellay is of course a religious concept and refers to any group or religious sect which opposes the mission of the Catholic Church and her efforts to fulfill it: the salvation of souls.

    This religious context is based upon the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ as recorded in the Holy Gospels: “He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth.” (Matthew 12:30)

    By referring to the Jєωs, Bishop Fellay's comment was aimed at the leaders of Jєωιѕн organizations, and not the Jєωιѕн people, as is being implied by journalists.

    Accordingly the Society of St. Pius X denounces the repeated false accusations of anti-Semitism or hate speech made in an attempt to silence its message.

    SOURCE


    Why is it that Bishop Fellay says what is on his mind, and of what he believes, in addressing the questions from the CNS interviews, and also gives a conference in Toronto on what is on his mind, and of what he believes, then after, his "press secretaries" run around saying "that Bishop Fellay did not mean that" -and nothing happens?

    How come Bishop Fellay can say that the "Jєωs" are enemies, and get away with it, when Bishop Williamson says that he didn't believe in a trivially number of something that happened in the Jєωιѕн history books, and so Bishop Williamson gets sent to the dogs, placed under "house arrest" for a number of years, then gets passed through a gauntlet of court action to possibly being sent to prison for it -just for a trivial historical number?

    Results:

    Bishop Fellay... :tinfoil:

    Bishop Williamson...  :heretic:

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    SSPX US district qualifies Bp. Fellays "enemies of the Church"
    « Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 04:32:36 PM »
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  • but he says it so nicely.....


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    « Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 05:12:42 PM »
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  • He should speak more "prudently". Somebody may stuff him in an attic and forget about him....

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    « Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 05:16:57 PM »
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    but he says it so nicely.....

    must be that charming French accent...

    Offline TKGS

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    « Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 05:58:10 PM »
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  • This is actually a very interesting topic.  The opening post is very enlightening.

    For a couple days we were able to fantasize that Bishop Fellay was beginning to return to the faith and beliefs that founded the SSPX.  We were able to point to something that said that, perhaps, the SSPX was regaining its sanity.

    And today the SSPX, once again, declares that any resemblance to the Society founded by Archbishop Lefebvre is purely coincidental.


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    SSPX US district qualifies Bp. Fellays "enemies of the Church"
    « Reply #8 on: January 09, 2013, 12:41:14 AM »
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    SSPX USA District press release
    Bishop Fellay's comment "enemies of the Church"



    1-5-2013

    During a 2-hour conference given in Ontario, Canada on December 28th, 2012, Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior General of the Society St. Pius X, commented on the relations between the Holy See and the SSPX during the last two years.

    During the conference Bishop Fellay stated “Who, during that time, was the most opposed that the Church would recognize the Society? The enemies of the Church. The Jєωs, the Masons, the Modernists…”

    The word "enemies" used here by Bishop Fellay is of course a religious concept and refers to any group or religious sect which opposes the mission of the Catholic Church and her efforts to fulfill it: the salvation of souls.

    This religious context is based upon the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ as recorded in the Holy Gospels: “He that is not with me, is against me: and he that gathereth not with me, scattereth.” (Matthew 12:30)

    By referring to the Jєωs, Bishop Fellay's comment was aimed at the leaders of Jєωιѕн organizations, and not the Jєωιѕн people, as is being implied by journalists.

    Accordingly the Society of St. Pius X denounces the repeated false accusations of anti-Semitism or hate speech made in an attempt to silence its message.

    SOURCE




    Here is an interesting observation on Fr. Rostand's "intention" to use the word "enemy" from a Fr. Roberts signed in at I.A.  It follows highlighted in BOLD:



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    I am surprised that more people are not commenting on this press release. It really is interesting, and shows how the US District is making up theology as they go in order to try to backpedal. I want to bring out a few points:

    1. There is the introduction of a completely new concept found nowhere in Tradition, that is the distinction of "enemy" into two meanings, one religious and one secular. That is found nowhere in Tradition. There is no such thing as a religious meaning to the word "enemy". One is either an enemy or one is not. The Jєωs as a force in world politics have always been enemies in every sense to the Catholic Church and Christendom. Their interventions against the Church have been very much in the political and social order, as well as by their support of heresy against the power of the Church. This new innovation of speaking of an enemy in the "religious sense" is ridiculous, and is found nowhere except in the mind of those who now want to appear free of all charges of Antisemitism, that is, pleasing to the modernists in Rome as well as to the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr (if not also to certain benefactors).

    2. The blame is now shifted from the Jєωs, to their leaders. Now it is true that the leaders are more to blame, especially the secular Jєωιѕн leaders, but that does not exonerate the Jєωιѕн people from working as a whole against the kingship of Christ over society.
    It is interesting to compare this backpedaling on the Jєωιѕн question with the two articles published in Rome at the end of the 19th century in Civilta Catolica, the review published by the Jesuits that had the support of the Holy See, in which there is a direct opposition to the Jєωs having any right to vote in any nation. It wasn't just a restriction of the Jєωιѕн leadership, but of all Jєωs.

    3. Of course, Menzingen abhors anything that speaks of what the modern world calls "anti-semitism" which goes to explain why the once popular books of Fr. Fahey have been either whisked away or destroyed.

    Where was this concern when the Archbishop was alive? Where was Menzingen's horror when Bishop Williamson got in trouble in Canada over the h0Ɩ0cαųst question? It was nowhere, since everybody knew about it and said nothing, knowing that the Archbishop was not concerned about it.


    Offline Mary Therese

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    SSPX US district qualifies Bp. Fellays "enemies of the Church"
    « Reply #9 on: January 10, 2013, 03:26:55 AM »
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  • Oh but Bp. Fellay has such a nice smile and those dimples .... I've heard people say this when confronted with his theology. Roll out the thunder ...

    But, yes I was caught by "the religious meaning of enemies" also. I don't know it's english and the word is enemy, what more needs to be said. I also thought religion was a part of our everyday life, not just something for an hour and a half on Sunday morning. I also thought religion was the greatest reality, not something to be separated off into some little compartment in our lives, but that everything in us should flow from our religious convictions. I guess I'll have to become a regular at sspxusa "Pastors Corner" to get sorted out (dah)    
    "The greatest obstacle in the apostolate of the Church is the timidity or rather the cowardice of the faithful."

    Pope St. Pius X