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Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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SSPX UK,FR,SP. bishops dont agree the deal. UK bishop said to me.
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2012, 03:14:24 PM »
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  • Bishop Fellay is leading the Society into a trap that they might never be able to wiggle their way out of. It's not looking good.

    As Matthew noted, how much good can you do if you're basically chained by Rome? Yet some people claim Rome is going to give them "complete freedom" to speak out against anything they want. That is a huge lie.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #46 on: May 13, 2012, 03:22:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
    Bishop Fellay is leading the Society into a trap that they might never be able to wiggle their way out of. It's not looking good.

    As Matthew noted, how much good can you do if you're basically chained by Rome? Yet some people claim Rome is going to give them "complete freedom" to speak out against anything they want. That is a huge lie.



    Dear Spiritus,

                        This is an incisive post.

    Yes, It is obviously a trap.

    How can people not see this?

    Especially as there are people pointing it out, like the people making posts here.

    They will be mute if they are chained to Rome. The vigour will go out of them.

    They will be too concerned to placate their new masters.

    They certainly will not get complete freedom.

    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
    Pastor Aeternus, and the Council of Trent Sessions XXIII and XXIV


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    SSPX UK,FR,SP. bishops dont agree the deal. UK bishop said to me.
    « Reply #47 on: May 13, 2012, 03:43:45 PM »
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    They certainly will not get complete freedom.



    As far as I know they are not even pretending to offer such a freedom right now either. They have made it quite clear that they want the Society to accept the robber council and to cease attacking it. They are offering a golden cage to the lion in exchange for it's teeth.

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    « Reply #48 on: May 13, 2012, 04:03:34 PM »
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  • Yes, and already they have decreased their criticisms of Vatican II.
    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
    Pastor Aeternus, and the Council of Trent Sessions XXIII and XXIV

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    SSPX UK,FR,SP. bishops dont agree the deal. UK bishop said to me.
    « Reply #49 on: May 14, 2012, 04:22:50 AM »
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    The bishop stuck in Asia while his organisation is being reformed and reorganised is not a good sign. He needs to be in his Anglo-Saxon heartland where his future will be, rallying his supporters. The same with the other bishops. If they stay in the background, Fellay will succeed by default.

    Bishop Williamson should be back in Britain either today (14th May) or tomorrow.


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    « Reply #50 on: May 14, 2012, 04:59:00 AM »
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  • Oh, good. I hope they have not changed the locks in Wimbledon!

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    « Reply #51 on: May 14, 2012, 05:18:33 AM »
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    Does anyone know who is : Côme de Prévigny?



    Not really. He is a voice in the 'conservative' camp that is used to lambaste trad hardliners and attempts to sift out the 'good' points of Abp. Lefebvre that are useful in the reconciliation campaign.

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    « Reply #52 on: May 19, 2012, 02:28:25 AM »
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    Fr Joven Soliman of Manila, ordained by the SSPX, is now an independent priest in Manila.

    Fr Soliman is a sedevacantist as can be seen here: http://www.christorchaos.com/AnInterviewWithFatherJovenSoliman.htm


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    SSPX UK,FR,SP. bishops dont agree the deal. UK bishop said to me.
    « Reply #53 on: May 19, 2012, 02:47:13 AM »
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    Fr Joven Soliman of Manila, ordained by the SSPX, is now an independent priest in Manila.

    Fr Soliman is a sedevacantist as can be seen here: http://www.christorchaos.com/AnInterviewWithFatherJovenSoliman.htm


    Better than that perennial Vacationist of Asia District!

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    « Reply #54 on: May 19, 2012, 03:21:07 AM »
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    Yes, and already they have decreased their criticisms of Vatican II.


    And make no mistake about it: that is part of the deal!

    In order for +Fellay to become a "free and accepted mason" in the Vatican, his
    task at hand is to demonstrate that his followers will not criticize the unclean
    spirit of Vatican II.

    This is the same tactic that was used 50 years ago in the Balamand Agreement,
    wherein the serpents undermining Vatican II promised not to allow any
    mention of Communism in the council, let alone criticism of Communism.

    We are standing on the cusp of a cataclysmic precipice and we do not know it.

    We will only become aware of the present danger when we begin our fall
    into the abyss, at which time it will be too late to avert it.

    The 3 faithful bishops must take action now before it is too late.

    They must obtain some kind of staying order in the courts in the district of
    Menzingen, the Fellayite Bunkerville, to prevent +Fellay from handing over
    all the SSPX properties and assets to Rome in one fell swoop.

    Otherwise, it's back to the basement, the woodshed, the catacombs.
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    « Reply #55 on: May 19, 2012, 06:50:03 AM »
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    Better than that perennial Vacationist of Asia District!


    That's calumny, you know?


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    « Reply #56 on: May 19, 2012, 07:44:16 AM »
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    ...It's almost like there's a "don't ask, don't tell" policy among the resident priests and faithful...


    I discussed my concerns with one of our priests. He did not even know the name Maximilian Krah, much less of what Krah has done.

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    « Reply #57 on: May 19, 2012, 07:49:09 AM »
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    Yes, and already they have decreased their criticisms of Vatican II.


    ...AND scrubbed their websites of authentic teaching on the adversaries to all men WHILE laughably telling us the "deal" will not cause the Faith to be denied one iota.

    As a group we deserve what we get.

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    « Reply #58 on: May 19, 2012, 07:52:50 AM »
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    ...We are standing on the cusp of a cataclysmic precipice and we do not know it. ...


    We know it. The End is near.

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    « Reply #59 on: May 19, 2012, 08:47:14 AM »
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    Better than that perennial Vacationist of Asia District!


    That's calumny, you know?


    Not to me it isn't.