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Offline cosmas

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SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
« on: August 06, 2018, 11:59:24 PM »
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  • There are more TranssɛҳuąƖs in Cebu than any other place I have been! I made T shirts then flyers, posting them up in many places, even in Quezon city, near the House of Representatives. I was invited to speak on a talk radio program that was ran by an attorney, there were 8 other men on the show, other attorneys, a retired police captain, most of them members of SSPX.
     
    To my surprise I had to defend the Catholic position against ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity for over 20 mins. while the host kept insisting, but it is natural to be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, they were born that way! In my mind I was trying to remember what Church council condemded that we were predestined? At the end I asked, so is God unfair, even Judas had the grace not to betray Our Lord? The Host said, no, it is just a mystery why God makes them that way.
     
    A couple of the men after the show told me, they agree with me. 


      


    Offline rosenley

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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #1 on: August 07, 2018, 01:20:48 AM »
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  • Was the host SSPX?
    "If the Revolution is disorder, the Counter-Revolution is the restoration of order. And by order we mean the peace of Christ in the Reign of Christ, that is, Christian civilization, austere and hierarchical, fundamentally sacral, antiegalitarian, and antiliberal." - Dr. Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira


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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #2 on: August 07, 2018, 08:03:50 AM »
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  • while the host kept insisting, but it is natural to be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, they were born that way!  
    Tell the host that he and anyone else who believes what he is saying (he likely does not believe it himself, but goes along with it to not go against the tide) has been brainwashed, that for the  2000 years of Catholicism's existence ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ has never been believed to be something you are born with. The Philippines is a Catholic country.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

    Offline Incredulous

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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #3 on: August 07, 2018, 08:51:05 AM »
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  • Was the host SSPX?
    Was the host just playing the role of the "devil's advocate" so that your Catholic defense would be more thoroughly explained and understood?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #4 on: August 07, 2018, 10:27:07 AM »
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  • If someone is arguing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are "born that way" or "it's natural", another response could be: so what?

    People saying that are usually thinking that following a "natural" inclination cannot be sinful, and that is simply wrong. Our inclinations are disordered. Part of the problem is these discussions often equivocate around what "natural" means. Does natural mean in accord with natural law, having some genetic basis, or something else? Homo acts are not in accord with the natural moral law.

    So, what if it were ever shown that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity had some genetic basis? Would that change anything?  If some people are disposed to some sin over another, nevertheless people have the ability and moral responsibility to follow the natural moral law despite inclinations to sinful acts.

    For a less political example: kleptomania is an inclination to steal items (it's considered an impulse control disorder). Would a genetically-based predisposition to kleptomania absolve a person from sins in the act of stealing? No, a disposition to an immoral act, even if somewhat difficult to resist, does not take away culpability (though in extreme cases it might reduce culpability). And nobody is asking society to recognize kleptomaniacal behavior as acceptable.


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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #5 on: August 07, 2018, 11:49:58 AM »
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  • Another example:

    Kaitlyn wasn't exactly born that way.



    "Well, I was born with a penis... but it got in the way.. and I had to remove it"
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #6 on: August 07, 2018, 01:54:35 PM »
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  • I was invited to speak on a talk radio program that was ran by an attorney, there were 8 other men on the show, other attorneys, a retired police captain, most of them members of SSPX.
     

    Why exactly does the subject line read "SSPX talk radio?"  How exactly was it sponsored by or affiliated with the SSPX, if indeed it actually was?  Is there a website where the particular program you posted about can be seen?

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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #7 on: August 07, 2018, 01:58:40 PM »
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  • Another example:

    Kaitlyn wasn't exactly born that way.



    "Well, I was born with a penis... but it got in the way.. and I had to remove it"
    Hmm?  He doesn't seem to look quite the same.


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    Genetic Test?/Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #8 on: August 07, 2018, 10:01:11 PM »
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  • So, what if it were ever shown that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity had some genetic basis?  Would that change anything

    Thank you for posing the question.

    Back in the mid-to-late 1990s, in 1 of his most insightful moments on any of his radio broadcasts, Rush Limbaugh speculated that if (what has been called) the "gαy gene" were ever discovered, i.e., any genetic configuration that forces an unborn child away from normal heterosɛҳuąƖity into ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity), a great financial incentive would quickly arise to devise a medical test that could be administered during pregnancy.

    Such a politically incorrect test could be expected to become routinely used--albeit much more secretively--during pregnancy in the same way that tests for birth defects (e.g., Downs syndrome) are already used in the First World to influence unanticipated consideration of abortion, especially wherever local law has perveted abortion-on-demand into a "woman's right to choose",  instead of criminal infanticide.

    As the potential consequences dawned on the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lobby, Limbaugh speculated, it would quickly abandon its leftist gender-rights allies, so that it could adopt & promote prolife policies.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #9 on: August 08, 2018, 02:45:33 PM »
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  • Why exactly does the subject line read "SSPX talk radio?"  How exactly was it sponsored by or affiliated with the SSPX, if indeed it actually was?  Is there a website where the particular program you posted about can be seen?
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    Good question! Where can the program be seen (or audio heard)?
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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #10 on: August 09, 2018, 09:11:34 PM »
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  • Alligator;  In Omni Magazine, October 1991(?) was an article on just the issue you speak of.  And the person who was behind the article in Omni was of Art Bell.
    This so called person, a frankenstein doctor said this:  We know how to make a girl a boy!  "WE", scientists, gave an inoculation to a baby girl and followed up on this girl.  At age 14 the parents were in horror that their daughter was having a penis grow on her!  (The shot was given in 1979).  I was so shocked that I phoned into coast-to-coast and put in my 2 cents that the guest speaker is demonic!

    Then, not to long ago, in a country (?) maybe africa(?) was having what they called an epidemic of girls growing penis's.  

    So, this article in the Omni magazine has a picture on the front page like half man and half mechanical and mentions something to do with sex (changes?).

    It has been so long ago.  I saved the magazine, then lost it.  I looked it up and found it, because I remembered the front page.  I will never forget what I read!!


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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #11 on: August 11, 2018, 01:44:03 AM »
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    This face ought to win some kind of ugly award. It's hard to imagine a more ugly mug than this:
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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #12 on: August 11, 2018, 03:00:50 AM »
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    This face ought to win some kind of ugly award. It's hard to imagine a more ugly mug than this:
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    The swollen face and abnormal growths seen in this picture must be due to all the unnatural hormonal treatments.

    Such an abnormal life with drugs most likely will lead to death from cancer. This is so sad.

    The scandalous example set will be bad for our youth.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #13 on: October 07, 2018, 07:48:28 PM »
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  • If someone is arguing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are "born that way" or "it's natural", another response could be: so what?


    It certainly is another response, but is it a Christ like one?  I would encourage error to be confronted head on -- especially in such grave matters as this.

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    Re: SSPX talk radio defending ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
    « Reply #14 on: October 08, 2018, 09:00:23 AM »
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  • I have come to believe that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity (in men, especially) involves a partial demonic possession.  Women sometimes get that way for emotional reasons after bad experiences with men.  But for the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ men, it's always about deviant sex.

    Is there anyone else who believes that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity in men always involves demonic influence?  I used to think that certain environmental factors (hormone disrupters, etc.) could be responsible, but more and more I see demonic activity.