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Re: Sspx simply waiting for Superior General's decision re: Consecrations
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2025, 11:53:31 AM »
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  • Well, thanks, that is a pertinent thought. Just Huondering where is the perspicacity of the thousands of Sspx faithful? 13,376 days since +L consecrated 4 bishops, and lo and behold, no fresh consecrations!
    On a humorous note, how 'bout Sspx going to Rome after the Pope's High Requiem Mass( Traditional Latin  maybe?), and then in this golden state wherein all Catholics are "Sede Vacantes", Fr P. gives his OK and just like that,  6 bishops, without the permission from the Holy Pontiff! 



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  • https://international.la-croix.com/religion/from-diocesan-latin-mass-to-the-society-of-st-pius-x-young-traditionalists-blur-the-lines

    What ever happened during the neoSspx Winter Conference, Feb 21- 23, 2025? Topic : Episcopal Consecrations in the SSPX: Schism or Necessity?”

    "... New episcopal consecrations could disrupt this trend

    This fluidity, however, could be disrupted if the SSPX proceeds with new episcopal consecrations. The fraternity currently has only two bishops, and rumors about new ordinations were reinforced during its winter conference held from Feb. 21 to 23, themed: “Episcopal Consecrations in the SSPX: Schism or Necessity?” If new bishops were consecrated without papal approval, it would trigger automatic excommunications."...


    Even AI has something. .
    See Attached.
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  • Well, they'll claim there was necessity due to being down to 2 where I suppose they'd be just one jab-induced myocardial infarction away from having a single bishop left.

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  • Bishop Paul Robinson :popcorn:
    I’d prefer Bp. Kevin Robinson. 

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  • Is this all they had to say? Their 3 day conference ended on Feb 23, 2025, and then they post a month old article of Fr. Jean-Michel Gleize? Now THAT'S official !!?

    OP.  Ooops.
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiY8IatyrKNAxXeGDQIHRsNIpcQFnoECCEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsspx.org%2Fen%2Fnews%2Ffuture-consecrations-approaching-deadline-50846&usg=AOvVaw1HThSHU7ihG1Dj6loc3swW&opi=89978449
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  • I’d prefer Bp. Kevin Robinson.
    Seconded. Unfortunately, that is not going to happen
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  • Kennedy Hall on future neo-SSPX episcopal consecrations. He takes a swipe at the Resistance in this video. The guy is such a Fellayite shill!

    https://youtu.be/p3YuFgGWg6E?feature=shared
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  • The time is ripe to have conciliar "bishops", perhaps even a "pope" to perform it. Neo-sspx has been desperately waiving its "we're not extremists nor bad schismatics who don't approve of new rites" card for more than a decade. They don't bat an eye anymore about novus ordo clergy (going to sspx) taking over their confessionals and simulating Masses. They showed their willingness to burn the incense before man made inventions with infamous Hounder's oils.

    Think about it, isn't this the logical next step in this unholy symbiosis? You give us the "bishops" and we show that we fully accept your new rites so just consecrate them in it. Oh, how happy the Taylor Marshalls of the world will be. 

    Again, the only ones to spoil the party will be sedevacantists, independent and to an extent Resistance trads.  


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  • Kennedy Hall on future neo-SSPX episcopal consecrations. He takes a swipe at the Resistance in this video. The guy is such a Fellayite shill!

    https://youtu.be/p3YuFgGWg6E?feature=shared

    Here's the thing. Hall claims to love the SSPX and pushes the idea that the SSPX has a unique role to play in bringing "the Church" back to Tradition. His narrative, then, is that the SSPX-ALONE-WILL-SAVE-THE-CHURCH. 

    But, then he says in the video that a great "solution" (to the lack of SSPX bishops) will be to depend on diocesan bishops for ordinations and confirmations (see timestamp 22:25). This "solution" is identical to the current situation of the FSSP (and other ED groups).

    So, why is Kennedy Hall constantly hawking the SSPX to anyone who will listen? Why is Kennedy Hall not attending the FSSP himself and telling his audience that the FSSP-model will save the Church also? What is Kennedy Hall's real agenda?

    What is special about the SSPX if not that they have bishops and priests consecrated AND ordained in the traditional Rites? Hall's idea of "tradition" is clearly not prioritizing the "tradition" of a Priesthood/Episcopacy that depends on Rites in use from time immemorial. Instead, he is fine with using Rites (Priestly and Episcopal) invented in 1968, which is contrary to the explicit command of Pius XII in Sacramentum Ordinis. He doesn't even bat an eye over it.

    Either Hall is just ignorant about Catholic sacramental theology or, more likely, he is part of an elaborate SSPX PR campaign to prepare the faithful (aka boil the frog) for what is coming soon. 

    In a nutshell, if Hall's "solution" materializes, the SSPX will (eventually) be sacramentally indistinguishable from the FSSP, which is exactly what the destroyers have wanted since 1988. It was not Lefebvre's traditional words that were scary to the destroyers. Rather, it was the fact that Lefebvre possessed authentic Apostolic Succession and passed that on to his episcopal sons that they feared. How many current SSPX attendees understand the importance of this distinction? 

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  • https://fsspx.news/en/news/sspx-holds-treasure-its-hands-fr-pagliarani-interview-20289

    For Fr. P, all this is included in the word Tradition.
    As you are mentioning, authentic Apostolic Succession is primordial, and should remind the Fairhful 4 times a year. 
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  • I was thinking they would stretch it out a bit, wait for Huonder to ordaine one or two priests, and then consecrate the Huonder ordinand to create chaos.  But God took Huonder out of the equation.
    Well spotted....OP didn't mention Huonder, so the necessity is even more glaringly obvious. Here's another "fruit" of the SSPX direction - why didn't they ask Rome for permission, when they "kicked" His Excellency +Williamson out.


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  • Yeah, you need at least one openly Modernist bishop in the neo-SSPX.
    How about Bishop Kevin Robinson?

    He went counter to the warp speed vax, Trumptards and the SSPX superiors.

    The latter’s flawed Thomistic opinion on the death jab was a grievous error.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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  • Kennedy Hall on future neo-SSPX episcopal consecrations. He takes a swipe at the Resistance in this video. The guy is such a Fellayite shill!

    https://youtu.be/p3YuFgGWg6E?feature=shared

    Just another media-Marrano.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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  • Well, thanks, that is a pertinent thought. Just Huondering where is the perspicacity of the thousands of Sspx faithful? 13,376 days since +L consecrated 4 bishops, and lo and behold, no fresh consecrations!
    On a humorous note, how 'bout Sspx going to Rome after the Pope's High Requiem Mass( Traditional Latin  maybe?), and then in this golden state wherein all Catholics are "Sede Vacantes", Fr P. gives his OK and just like that,  6 bishops, without the permission from the Holy Pontiff!

    How long will Fr. Pagliarani be able to feign loyalty to pope Bob, after all the public satanic revelations in less than a month in the Seat?

    Consider if the SSPX dared to consecrate worthy traditional Bishops, now, they would be “cancelled”.

    Their bank accounts frozen.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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  • How long will Fr. Pagliarani be able to feign loyalty to pope Bob, after all the public satanic revelations in less than a month in the Seat?

    Consider if the SSPX dared to consecrate worthy traditional Bishops, now, they would be “cancelled”.

    Their bank accounts frozen.
    Some on this Forum think that the SSPX is deep in debt...New seminary, H U G E  church in Kansas( Soon to be ranked as a Cathedral !??). etc. So freezing their accounts would be great, as their debts would be cancelled ( just kidding! ha.)

    neoSspx needs bishops. If they think they really need Pope Leo XIV's OKay, well that proves 95% that they have joined the modernist church , or to borrow Fr. H's qualifier, " the FAKE Existence".

    But they are not stupid,, they are standing on the proverbial Fence, so my guess is that Pentecost would be the Providential occasion to meekly annouce consecrations on June 30,  6 bishops!!!!!!

    See the subtle hint below:Unofficial.
    https://fsspx.news/fr/news/une-religieuse-nommee-secretaire-dicastere-par-leon-xiv-52626
    Actualités  May 24, 2025 AD.
    "...This appointment marks a trivialization of the appointments of women to positions of responsibility in the Roman Curia, a commonplace that will delight the progressives, but which will sadden and worry those who have solid theological and ecclesiological notions, and who discern a path to a dead and catastrophic path for the unity of the Church..."

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    NeoSspx writing vitriol..?? .WATCH OUT.!!




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