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tradical · « **Reply #225 on:** September 21, 2013, 08:39:25 AM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Quote from: ultrarigorist
"BJP2"? I assume the "B" is for "blessed"?
Folks, this tradical is a papolater. Why are you wasting your time?

Annnd I'm sure that if Paul the Sick was called "blessed," he'd recognize that too, even though there is an absolute TON of evidence to prove that he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

http://chiesaviva.com/paoloVI%20beatoin.pdf

But, that's just how lopsided their understanding is.

Oh, and "blessed" jpii, tons of evidence as to WHY he should NOT be beatified, much less canonized.

http://chiesaviva.com/430%20mensile%20ing.pdf

Well there is a 'ton of evidence' that the WTC's collapsed due to structural damage caused by the impact of the airplanes and ensuing fire.

However, some are unable to believe that.

Further, some insist, in spite of hundreds of eye witnesses, that an airplane did not crash into the Pentagon. Some claim is was a missile with a titanium nose.

But I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

God Bless!

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #226 on:** September 21, 2013, 10:47:41 AM »

Quote from: tradical

Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: ultrarigorist
"BJP2"? I assume the "B" is for "blessed"?
Folks, this tradical is a papolater. Why are you wasting your time?

Annnd I'm sure that if Paul the Sick was called "blessed," he'd recognize that too, even though there is an absolute TON of evidence to prove that he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

http://chiesaviva.com/paoloVI%20beatoin.pdf

But, that's just how lopsided their understanding is.

Oh, and "blessed" jpii, tons of evidence as to WHY he should NOT be beatified, much less canonized.

http://chiesaviva.com/430%20mensile%20ing.pdf

Well there is a 'ton of evidence' that the WTC's collapsed due to structural damage caused by the impact of the airplanes and ensuing fire.

However, some are unable to believe that.

Further, some insist, in spite of hundreds of eye witnesses, that an airplane did not crash into the Pentagon. Some claim is was a missile with a titanium nose.

But I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

God Bless!

Okay, if this was a comedy post, I would be thumbing it up, but you're serious. The correlation you're trying to make does not fit.

Father Villa is something called a "reliable" source. He fought his entire life to expose Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in the Church.

You're citing a totally secular event, that happened and is still being disputed because of blatant lies from the US government. Just because people don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Were the IAE able to stop the 9/11 report from containing lies? No. But Father Villa single handedly STOPPED Paul the Sick's canonization with this report. Now that he's dead (November 18, 2012, RIP) they're trying to continue with it and stomp on his grave.

Go read about Father Villa, and how they tried to murder him no less than 7 times. God's Providence allowed him to live to the ripe old age of 95.

http://chiesaviva.com/donluigivilla%20ing.pdf

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #227 on:** September 21, 2013, 11:05:52 AM »

Good post, PFT.

Quote

Just because people don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

That's my fallback line when I'm in discussion with my fallen away family members.

Not to siderail, but tradical should check out the website for Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth. THATS where you'll find legitimate "tons of evidence" that actually makes sense, not gov't propaganda.

tradical · « **Reply #228 on:** September 21, 2013, 01:21:43 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Quote from: tradical
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: ultrarigorist
"BJP2"? I assume the "B" is for "blessed"?
Folks, this tradical is a papolater. Why are you wasting your time?

Annnd I'm sure that if Paul the Sick was called "blessed," he'd recognize that too, even though there is an absolute TON of evidence to prove that he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

http://chiesaviva.com/paoloVI%20beatoin.pdf

But, that's just how lopsided their understanding is.

Oh, and "blessed" jpii, tons of evidence as to WHY he should NOT be beatified, much less canonized.

http://chiesaviva.com/430%20mensile%20ing.pdf

Well there is a 'ton of evidence' that the WTC's collapsed due to structural damage caused by the impact of the airplanes and ensuing fire.

However, some are unable to believe that.

Further, some insist, in spite of hundreds of eye witnesses, that an airplane did not crash into the Pentagon. Some claim is was a missile with a titanium nose.

But I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

God Bless!

Okay, if this was a comedy post, I would be thumbing it up, but you're serious. The correlation you're trying to make does not fit.

Father Villa is something called a "reliable" source. He fought his entire life to expose Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in the Church.

You're citing a totally secular event, that happened and is still being disputed because of blatant lies from the US government. Just because people don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Were the IAE able to stop the 9/11 report from containing lies? No. But Father Villa single handedly STOPPED Paul the Sick's canonization with this report. Now that he's dead (November 18, 2012, RIP) they're trying to continue with it and stomp on his grave.

Go read about Father Villa, and how they tried to murder him no less than 7 times. God's Providence allowed him to live to the ripe old age of 95.

http://chiesaviva.com/donluigivilla%20ing.pdf

First, where does it provide incontrovertible proof the Paul VI was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?

Second, my reference to 911 was actually a reference to a speech given by Bishop Williamson in which he espoused this belief (or disbelief) in the face of the witnesses.

I agree it is not a perfect parallel - but accusing Pope Paul VI of being a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ without presenting proof - is simply over the top - even for this forum.

Regarding the 'blatant lies' of the faceless government. Every single 'claim' that I have reviewed of the conspiracy theorists either is baseless or has alternative equally valid explanations. The theorists reject them solely on the ground that they are from the 'government' and therefore they cannot be the truth.

God Bless and preserve you!!!

tradical · « **Reply #229 on:** September 21, 2013, 01:29:12 PM »

Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta

Good post, PFT.

Quote
Just because people don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

That's my fallback line when I'm in discussion with my fallen away family members.

Not to siderail, but tradical should check out the website for Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth. THATS where you'll find legitimate "tons of evidence" that actually makes sense, not gov't propaganda.

I added that line as a tongue in cheek.

God Bless!!!

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #230 on:** September 21, 2013, 02:58:46 PM »

Quote from: tradical

Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: tradical
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: ultrarigorist
"BJP2"? I assume the "B" is for "blessed"?
Folks, this tradical is a papolater. Why are you wasting your time?

Annnd I'm sure that if Paul the Sick was called "blessed," he'd recognize that too, even though there is an absolute TON of evidence to prove that he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

http://chiesaviva.com/paoloVI%20beatoin.pdf

But, that's just how lopsided their understanding is.

Oh, and "blessed" jpii, tons of evidence as to WHY he should NOT be beatified, much less canonized.

http://chiesaviva.com/430%20mensile%20ing.pdf

Well there is a 'ton of evidence' that the WTC's collapsed due to structural damage caused by the impact of the airplanes and ensuing fire.

However, some are unable to believe that.

Further, some insist, in spite of hundreds of eye witnesses, that an airplane did not crash into the Pentagon. Some claim is was a missile with a titanium nose.

But I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

God Bless!

Okay, if this was a comedy post, I would be thumbing it up, but you're serious. The correlation you're trying to make does not fit.

Father Villa is something called a "reliable" source. He fought his entire life to expose Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in the Church.

You're citing a totally secular event, that happened and is still being disputed because of blatant lies from the US government. Just because people don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Were the IAE able to stop the 9/11 report from containing lies? No. But Father Villa single handedly STOPPED Paul the Sick's canonization with this report. Now that he's dead (November 18, 2012, RIP) they're trying to continue with it and stomp on his grave.

Go read about Father Villa, and how they tried to murder him no less than 7 times. God's Providence allowed him to live to the ripe old age of 95.

http://chiesaviva.com/donluigivilla%20ing.pdf

First, where does it provide incontrovertible proof the Paul VI was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?

Second, my reference to 911 was actually a reference to a speech given by Bishop Williamson in which he espoused this belief (or disbelief) in the face of the witnesses.

I agree it is not a perfect parallel - but accusing Pope Paul VI of being a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ without presenting proof - is simply over the top - even for this forum.

Regarding the 'blatant lies' of the faceless government. Every single 'claim' that I have reviewed of the conspiracy theorists either is baseless or has alternative equally valid explanations. The theorists reject them solely on the ground that they are from the 'government' and therefore they cannot be the truth.

God Bless and preserve you!!!

God forbid you would actually READ Fr. Villa's publication.
:rolleyes:

tradical · « **Reply #231 on:** September 21, 2013, 03:02:22 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Quote from: tradical
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: tradical
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: ultrarigorist
"BJP2"? I assume the "B" is for "blessed"?
Folks, this tradical is a papolater. Why are you wasting your time?

Annnd I'm sure that if Paul the Sick was called "blessed," he'd recognize that too, even though there is an absolute TON of evidence to prove that he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

http://chiesaviva.com/paoloVI%20beatoin.pdf

But, that's just how lopsided their understanding is.

Oh, and "blessed" jpii, tons of evidence as to WHY he should NOT be beatified, much less canonized.

http://chiesaviva.com/430%20mensile%20ing.pdf

Well there is a 'ton of evidence' that the WTC's collapsed due to structural damage caused by the impact of the airplanes and ensuing fire.

However, some are unable to believe that.

Further, some insist, in spite of hundreds of eye witnesses, that an airplane did not crash into the Pentagon. Some claim is was a missile with a titanium nose.

But I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

God Bless!

Okay, if this was a comedy post, I would be thumbing it up, but you're serious. The correlation you're trying to make does not fit.

Father Villa is something called a "reliable" source. He fought his entire life to expose Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in the Church.

You're citing a totally secular event, that happened and is still being disputed because of blatant lies from the US government. Just because people don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Were the IAE able to stop the 9/11 report from containing lies? No. But Father Villa single handedly STOPPED Paul the Sick's canonization with this report. Now that he's dead (November 18, 2012, RIP) they're trying to continue with it and stomp on his grave.

Go read about Father Villa, and how they tried to murder him no less than 7 times. God's Providence allowed him to live to the ripe old age of 95.

http://chiesaviva.com/donluigivilla%20ing.pdf

First, where does it provide incontrovertible proof the Paul VI was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?

Second, my reference to 911 was actually a reference to a speech given by Bishop Williamson in which he espoused this belief (or disbelief) in the face of the witnesses.

I agree it is not a perfect parallel - but accusing Pope Paul VI of being a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ without presenting proof - is simply over the top - even for this forum.

Regarding the 'blatant lies' of the faceless government. Every single 'claim' that I have reviewed of the conspiracy theorists either is baseless or has alternative equally valid explanations. The theorists reject them solely on the ground that they are from the 'government' and therefore they cannot be the truth.

God Bless and preserve you!!!

God forbid you would actually READ Fr. Villa's publication.
:rolleyes:

I opened it and did a number of searches for keywords and produced nothing.

As I am working on something else at the moment and as Pope Paul VI's does not have a bearing on the principle involved (ie ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is not a heresy) I have no inclination to read it.

God bless!!!

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #232 on:** September 21, 2013, 09:27:00 PM »

Re the secular event...actually no event on God's green earth is really a "secular" event since he's the God of EVERYTHING...politics/economics/just wars..etc...Gen Stubblebein, Chief of Army Intelligence, sd no plane hit the Pentagon....Army Spec. April Gallop grabbed her injured baby and had to bend low to get through the hole in the wall ( before it collapsed ) and saw no wreckage of a 767...neither did Jamie McIntyre of CNN..and he sd so...bc there wasn't any...None larger than a picnic table..and that piece was traced to a AA crash is Cali, Columbia a few yrs before...
WTC7 was a conventional controlled demo...WTC1, 2 and 6 were not..Time and patience prevent me fm going on..( it's been 12 yrs..if you still like the Phil Zelikow/Warren Commission-oops 9-11 Commission-version of that day there's no helping you...) Dr. James Fetzer and Richard Gage have done some decent work on 9-11...

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #233 on:** September 21, 2013, 10:27:12 PM »

Quote from: tradical

Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: tradical
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: tradical
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Quote from: ultrarigorist
"BJP2"? I assume the "B" is for "blessed"?
Folks, this tradical is a papolater. Why are you wasting your time?

Annnd I'm sure that if Paul the Sick was called "blessed," he'd recognize that too, even though there is an absolute TON of evidence to prove that he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

http://chiesaviva.com/paoloVI%20beatoin.pdf

But, that's just how lopsided their understanding is.

Oh, and "blessed" jpii, tons of evidence as to WHY he should NOT be beatified, much less canonized.

http://chiesaviva.com/430%20mensile%20ing.pdf

Well there is a 'ton of evidence' that the WTC's collapsed due to structural damage caused by the impact of the airplanes and ensuing fire.

However, some are unable to believe that.

Further, some insist, in spite of hundreds of eye witnesses, that an airplane did not crash into the Pentagon. Some claim is was a missile with a titanium nose.

But I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

God Bless!

Okay, if this was a comedy post, I would be thumbing it up, but you're serious. The correlation you're trying to make does not fit.

Father Villa is something called a "reliable" source. He fought his entire life to expose Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in the Church.

You're citing a totally secular event, that happened and is still being disputed because of blatant lies from the US government. Just because people don't want to believe something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Were the IAE able to stop the 9/11 report from containing lies? No. But Father Villa single handedly STOPPED Paul the Sick's canonization with this report. Now that he's dead (November 18, 2012, RIP) they're trying to continue with it and stomp on his grave.

Go read about Father Villa, and how they tried to murder him no less than 7 times. God's Providence allowed him to live to the ripe old age of 95.

http://chiesaviva.com/donluigivilla%20ing.pdf

First, where does it provide incontrovertible proof the Paul VI was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?

Second, my reference to 911 was actually a reference to a speech given by Bishop Williamson in which he espoused this belief (or disbelief) in the face of the witnesses.

I agree it is not a perfect parallel - but accusing Pope Paul VI of being a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ without presenting proof - is simply over the top - even for this forum.

Regarding the 'blatant lies' of the faceless government. Every single 'claim' that I have reviewed of the conspiracy theorists either is baseless or has alternative equally valid explanations. The theorists reject them solely on the ground that they are from the 'government' and therefore they cannot be the truth.

God Bless and preserve you!!!

God forbid you would actually READ Fr. Villa's publication.
:rolleyes:

I opened it and did a number of searches for keywords and produced nothing.

As I am working on something else at the moment and as Pope Paul VI's does not have a bearing on the principle involved (ie ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is not a heresy) I have no inclination to read it.

God bless!!!

Hmm...

You dare not read his heresy contained in his statements. I was simply pointing out that you would call him "Blessed" even if it was proven that he was a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. I never said that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity was a "heresy. Practicing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, however, IS A SIN THAT CRIES TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE, and one that is known to have practiced this sin, OR EVEN SUSPECTED OF SUCH A SIN, cannot be called a saint.
Thomas A Kempis was not made a saint "because he might have despaired" being buried alive. But the newchurch is going to "canonize" a sodomite? And you'd recognize it "because it's not a heresy?"

You can't even hear yourself.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #234 on:** July 18, 2021, 09:20:32 PM »