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Title: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: thebloodycoven on October 01, 2018, 09:43:39 PM
Just got this from an e-mail forwarded to me.

https://forum.tradidi.com/t/sspx-school-in-canada-respects-all-sɛҳuąƖ-orientations/129

From p. 45 of the policy handbook for the SSPX’s St. John Bosco School in Calgary, Canada:
"To ensure that all members of the school community work together in an atmosphere of
respect for the dignity of all persons, this policy is adopted to ensure that each student
and staff member is provided with a welcoming, caring, respectful and safe learning
environment that respects diversity and fosters a sense of belonging.

The Board will not tolerate harassment, bullying, intimidation or discrimination of
students or staff as provided for in the Alberta Human Rights Act or the Canadian
Charter of Rights and Freedoms which includes discrimination on the basis of an
individual’s actual or perceived differences, including sɛҳuąƖ orientation, gender identity
and gender expression."

The SSPX argument will be that, in order to have schools in Canada, we are forced to comply with these measures.
No doubt this is true.
But the real question is: If in order to have schools, the SSPX is forced to comply with the most basic and fundamental violations of the natural law, would it not be better to have no school at all, than one which inculcates moral indifference (all the more insidious as such indifference would feign having the moral authority of rigorous Catholic traditionalism)?
See the entire docuмent here (and you had better download it quickly):
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Carissima on October 01, 2018, 11:42:29 PM
Public funding be damned! Those parents, staff and PRIESTS should be raising hell over this. Never should have made it to the file in the first place.  :really-mad2:

We’ve had enough of exhortations to be silent! Cry out with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that the world is rotten because of silence.”

St Catherine of Siena
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Neil Obstat on October 02, 2018, 01:02:20 AM
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SSPX schools in the USA ought to be voicing opposition to this.
Even though Calgary is in Canada, still, it doesn't belong in the SSPX  schools, regardless of the country.
Watch it spread all over Canada now, Canada where Sodomite agenda is running rampant.
Canada is crying to heaven for God's vengeance, and they just might get what they ask for.
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This "nondiscrimination" garbage is just one step toward making child sɛҳuąƖ abuse socially acceptable.
It's the corruption of children.
Remember what Our Lord said about scandalizing little ones who believe in Him.
It would be better for them to have a millstone tied about their necks and thrown into the depth of the sea.
At least they'd have a moment to repent before they die.
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Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on October 02, 2018, 06:06:17 AM
Yes, they will brainwash the children to be liberal communists And these sex oriented clubs are grooming tools by the sodomites. I have seen it here in America.  You can tell that the children are brainwashed by the way they talk and act.   It gets worse when they go to college.   We know people who home school children who attend college and the children come out rebellious and lazy. 


Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: JezusDeKoning on October 02, 2018, 06:25:28 AM
Better that the school close than it take even a cent of public funding. I'm very sorry that people want to turn Alberta into a Communist dictatorship by controlling all the schools, both public and private.
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Ladislaus on October 02, 2018, 07:50:08 AM
Is this about public funding or some other legal mandate required to even operate a school?

It would be one thing just to accept tolerance ... you know like the old debate between religious tolerance vs. religious liberty.  But anything that implies a rejection of Catholic teaching cannot be accepted ... even at the cost of having the school closed down.
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: songbird on October 02, 2018, 10:33:18 AM
It does appear that SSPX school is no longer "independent".  It has become "public" by accepting funds of the State.  Once you do that, the school must adhere to the laws of the State.  SSPX must refuse funds and remain "independent".

Here is the USA, we had catholic schools, had.  Once the private schools accept "vouchers", they are taking State monies. Catholic schools then must adhere to the laws of the State.  They become "Public".

Never take any money from the State or Federal.
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Geremia on October 02, 2018, 11:51:37 AM
We’ve had enough of exhortations to be silent! Cry out with a hundred thousand tongues. I see that the world is rotten because of silence.”

St Catherine of Siena
What's the source for this St. Catherine quote?
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Carissima on October 02, 2018, 12:19:57 PM
What's the source for this St. Catherine quote?
I’m not sure where the exact quote is from but it appears many places online. Here is one..
http://www.catholictradition.org/memorable-quotes3.htm (http://www.catholictradition.org/memorable-quotes3.htm)
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Pax Vobis on October 02, 2018, 12:47:04 PM
Quote
It does appear that SSPX school is no longer "independent".  It has become "public" by accepting funds of the State.  Once you do that, the school must adhere to the laws of the State.  SSPX must refuse funds and remain "independent".

Here is the USA, we had catholic schools, had.  Once the private schools accept "vouchers", they are taking State monies. Catholic schools then must adhere to the laws of the State.  They become "Public".

Never take any money from the State or Federal.
That approach can work here in the US but Canada is a different country, with communistic laws that are 20-30 years ahead of the US.  Canada is totally unCatholic and anti-family in many ways.  I suspect that public vs private $ makes no difference - all schools have to follow the law.  Just my guess.

Anyone from Canada that can shed light on this?
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Prayerful on October 02, 2018, 01:01:25 PM
The schools must somehow try to work without public money, even if it is hard. Yet it is highly likely that the typical Western government won't allow a Catholic school taking not a cent from the state to escape the legal protection and promotion of perversity. Hard.
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: klasG4e on October 02, 2018, 01:13:05 PM
I am reminded of how there appeared  -- to me, anyway -- to be next to no outrage whatsoever when it was made known that the SSPX was regularly offering Mass for the faithful in some Lutheran churches.  This matter came to light in the wake of the fallout from the Bp. Williamson h0Ɩ0h0αx interview.  The Lutherans in a huff of embarrassment said in light of the interview that they could no longer allow their churches to be used by the SSPX.

How in the world was it that the SSPX could have fallen so low as to using them in the first place?!  All, I seemed to hear was -- hey, no big deal, it's no big deal that we were using Protestant churches for our Catholic Masses and even paying for the use to boot.  I commented at the time that it would have been better to have the Mass in a Catholic barn than a Protestant church.  Nothing I have heard since has caused me to change my mind on the subject.
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Matthew on October 02, 2018, 01:16:20 PM
Is this about public funding or some other legal mandate required to even operate a school?

It would be one thing just to accept tolerance ... you know like the old debate between religious tolerance vs. religious liberty.  But anything that implies a rejection of Catholic teaching cannot be accepted ... even at the cost of having the school closed down.
This.

There might come a time when we have to say "the era of Trad private schools is over" if it ever comes to that.

Just like there might come a time -- if it isn't here already -- where a few faithful priests here and there, a handful of faithful Trad chapels (independent of any group) nationwide is all Trad Catholics can hope for. That is to say, when the era of large organizations like the SSPX being "basically a complete, pretty decent replacement" for the Conciliar Church is over.

In other words, the attitude, "I'm NOT going back to hotel rooms and garages for Mass -- ever! Even if it means giving up my Faith!" can be quite dangerous for a person's Faith. Some people can be quite stubborn in this regard. But they may have to make that very choice one day.

Drawing a red line and saying, "I refuse to ever go any further than THIS from mainstream or normal" can be a recipe for disaster.

The same goes for school. We might have to give up our comfort which allows us to "have our cake and eat it too" by sort-of protecting our kids from public schools while keeping a huge amount of free time and money by not having to homeschool.

Just saying...
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Cantarella on October 02, 2018, 01:19:39 PM
That approach can work here in the US but Canada is a different country, with communistic laws that are 20-30 years ahead of the US.  Canada is totally unCatholic and anti-family in many ways.  I suspect that public vs private $ makes no difference - all schools have to follow the law.  Just my guess.

Anyone from Canada that can shed light on this?

I heard that the Canadian government is taking or will take children away from parents who oppose the global sodomite agenda. Christian homeschooling parents are mainly targeted, of course.

Insane and quite scary!
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on October 02, 2018, 02:12:45 PM
Hurry up and visit St Ann in Quebec before it turns into demonic night club for Trudeau and his satanic buddies.   
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Kazimierz on October 02, 2018, 03:55:28 PM
Alberta has alas a communist pro-deviant provincial govt. Whether this will change when the NDP party hopefully gets the boot in the next election will be hard to say. I did contract work for the Education ministry several years ago and frankly twas nothing more than a propaganda piece. Thankfully perhaps no one noticed the little picture of Dr Goebbels I put up in my cubicle.

As for the neo-SSPX, tis another torpedo hit on an already sinking ship.

The way things are going taint good.

Praise the Lord, pray the Rosary and keep stockpiling the ammo (doing a lot more of the last one!) Heu mihi :-X

The only I care about this province of my birth is the spectacular mountain scenery, and the wild uninhabited sections in general.
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: StonewallCatho on October 02, 2018, 05:08:27 PM
EMAIL SENT BY FR. GIROUARD TO HIS PARISHIONERS YESTERDAY (OCTOBER 1ST)

(Please note what he says about the Neo-SSPX twisting the words of St. Paul to justify their policy of "inclusiveness")


Dear faithful from Aldergrove and Post Falls,

Below are a few quotes taken from the Neo-SSPX school in Calgary, Alberta (Canada). It is the official school policy, which they had to have approved by the government in order to get funding by the Province of Alberta. I have put some words in red.

Examples of Unacceptable Behaviour include:
(...)
b) Acts of bullying, harassment or intimidation because of a school member’s race,
religious beliefs, colour, physical disability, mental disability, age, ancestry, place of
origin, marital status, source of income, family status, gender, gender identity,
gender expression and sɛҳuąƖ orientation.
(...)
The Board will not tolerate harassment, bullying, intimidation or discrimination of
students or staff as provided for in the Alberta Human Rights Act or the Canadian
Charter of Rights and Freedoms which includes discrimination on the basis of an
individual’s actual or perceived differences, including sɛҳuąƖ orientation, gender identity
and gender expression.
(...)
1. This procedure has been developed to:
(...)
3. (c) provide training consistent with the traditional Catholic faith for all teachers
and other staff that promotes a welcoming, caring, respectful and safe learning
environment that respect diversity and fosters a sense of belonging including with
respect to gender identity and gender expression;
4. (d) provide resources consistent with traditional Catholic teaching on social
relationships and to support students who require assistance as a result of their
gender identity or gender expression. As St. Paul reminds us, “For in Christ
Jesus, you are all children of God, through faith. There is neither Jєω nor Greek,
neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in
Christ.” (Galatians 3:27-28

I think it is really bad to twist the meaning of St. Paul's words to fit in with the freemasonic doctrine of "inclusion", especially when we know how the same Apostle condemned ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity with such strong words as the ones he used in his epistle to the Romans (chap. 1, 24-28 ).

I know our schools need money. But what's the point of having our own schools, if it's to adopt and conform to the world views?

For the full docuмent:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/589e375cdb29d6ccb2aade51/t/5b7219534ae23702f3f6a8a6/1534204243526/Welcome+and+Caring+Policy.pdf (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/589e375cdb29d6ccb2aade51/t/5b7219534ae23702f3f6a8a6/1534204243526/Welcome+and+Caring+Policy.pdf)

Watch and pray, and BE STRONG!

Fr. Girouard




Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Matthew on October 02, 2018, 06:09:02 PM
Listen to Fr. Girouard!  

:applause:

Glad to hear that some priests still have their Catholic sense, and aren't on a slippery slope of conforming to the modern world.


Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Nadir on October 03, 2018, 12:53:27 AM
... It is the official school policy, which they had to have approved by the government in order to get funding by the Province of Alberta. ...
So, it is about funding, but that's not the whole of it.
I believe that SSPX schools in Australia also receive government funding. There was a thread about is quite a while back. Yes better to close schools than to accept filthy lucre.
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: cosmas on October 03, 2018, 09:38:12 AM
MOVING TOWARD "human respect " INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR THE "RIGHTS OF CHRIST THE KING ".
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Seraphina on October 03, 2018, 06:40:55 PM
I work for a school that does that not accept a dime of government money. We write, produce, and teach our own curriculum on the Classical model. We are accredited by three independent agencies.  While recognized by the state as a school, we are not beholden to them in what, how, or who we teach.  We obliged only to obey city fire, health, safety, and zoning laws, same as any business or public building.  

There are many sacrifices. I will probably never retire.  I'm poor as far as worldly standards. We don't have luxurious facilities. We aren't "up to date" with students using technology.  (Students are not permitted to carry phones.  They are turned off and kept in the office until dismissal time.) 

We cover US grades K - 8.  At present, all but grades 3 and 7 are full. There are two seats in grade 3, one in grade 7.  The school opened in September of 1948 in response to concerned parents.  We're proof it CAN be done.
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: Eyeball on May 11, 2019, 04:37:16 PM
So keep an "eye ball" on St John Bosco school in Calgary, will they tighten their belts and roll up their sleeves and suffer for the sake of their children and educate them without the moral influence of government funding or will they try to sneak another half a million and force sodomite principals down the throats of the children, or will they say "We cannot survive without gαy money from the government." and shut the school down. If they shut down the parents will have 3 choices, public or NO private schools (which have the GSA policy) or homeschool. 
These parents and children need prayers. 
Title: Re: SSPX school in Calgary "forced" to accept nondiscrimination requirement
Post by: X on May 11, 2019, 06:28:52 PM
According to the school's website:

"About Us
St. John Bosco Private School is an independent school affiliated with the Alberta Charitable Society of St. Pius X.  The majority of the students come from St. Dennis Parish, however, Catholic and non-Catholic students from the community may apply for enrollment.  Students are transported to school by their parents.  Traditional Catholic teachings are emphasized and the Alberta Program of Studies is followed."
https://www.stdennis.ca/sjb-welcome (https://www.stdennis.ca/sjb-welcome)

What's the "Alberta Program of Studies" which "is followed?"

Here's the website: https://education.alberta.ca/topic-search?searchMode=3 (https://education.alberta.ca/topic-search?searchMode=3)

Here's what the program stipulates for Catholic schools:

"RELIGIOUS EDUCATION (ROMAN CATHOLIC/UKRAINIAN CATHOLIC) 15–25–35 AND RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD 35
In Catholic schools, students participate in a religious education program that is authorized by the Bishops of Alberta. Catholic high schools offer Religious Education (Roman Catholic) 15–25–35 and Religions of the World 35. In Catholic high schools offering the Religious Education (Ukrainian Catholic) program, students participate in a religious education program that is authorized by the Bishop of the local eparchy.
http://www.learnalberta.ca/content/mychildslearning/highschool_religious.html (http://www.learnalberta.ca/content/mychildslearning/highschool_religious.html)

Quite a bit more here: http://www.learnalberta.ca/content/mychildslearning/highschool_religious_subject.html?section=religious15#0 (http://www.learnalberta.ca/content/mychildslearning/highschool_religious_subject.html?section=religious15#0)