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SSPX Says Its Safe to Eat Modernist Poison?
« on: April 15, 2013, 04:06:21 PM »
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  • From two CI threads I bring together this topic:

    1) An SSPX priest from the pulpit on the Sunday sermon said he would read two profound Catholic quotes from someone, without disclosing the author until later on the sermon. After reading the quotes, guess who the author was? It was the new  Pope Francis.


    2) Fr. Pfluger from his recent conference at Post Falls, Idaho:
    Quote from: hollingsworth
    To give you all something of the flavor of Fr. Pfluger's talk in Post Falls on the 10th of April, let me try to write a few words in summary.   ...We have to be obedient to the church as long as it does not compromise our faith.  ... The new pope is "unusual," "original," and "different."  We must wait to see what he does, etc., etc. etc.
     



    This is really amazing to me, that "traditionalist" priests can be teaching what amounts to, that we need to look at the "nutritious 99% of grain in rat poison" rather than avoid it all together, and they don't mention anything about the poison!

    Pius X taught us that the modernist will say something that is 100% orthodox in one quote, and then teach complete heresy in another. Were not and are not Paul VI, JPII, B-16, and now Pope Francis, all modernists and progressives? If so, then how can an SSPX priest even think that the laity can eat any spiritual food that comes from these modernists?

    When Saul, the persecutor of the apostles, was struck by lightning and thrown off his horse and converted to become St. Paul, not one apostle trusted him till long after he proved himself converted by his deeds and miracles. Where are the deeds and miracles of Pope Francis?

    The hierarchy in Rome and the world's bishops are poison, they are modernists, who poison people with heresy, they kill souls. And like Saul, they can't be trusted. It matters little if they are 99% orthodox (which I doubt any Novus Ordo bishop or priest is), they will kill your soul just the same!

    Do we now have SSPX priests focusing only on the "nutritious grain", the orthodox quotes,  and overlooking the poison, the SOUL KILLING heresies?


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    SSPX Says Its Safe to Eat Modernist Poison?
    « Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 04:13:16 PM »
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  • Fr. Pfluger is a liberal. Of course he's going to ignore the abominations already done by Francis and take a "wait and see approach".

    If Francis bringing back the "bent crucifix" isn't enough to convince the Society that Francis will be a flaming liberal, then something is really wrong.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    SSPX Says Its Safe to Eat Modernist Poison?
    « Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 04:19:25 PM »
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  • You know, I think the fanatical anti-sedevacantism that was carefully cultivated was leading up to this:

    Whenever the truth about the conciliarists and their errors and heresies is discussed the accusation of "sede" is made.

    The SSPX has systematically stultified  the intellects and stupefied their congregations.  They've taught them to act like a mob.  To seek scape-goats.

    So this mob has forgotten the reason the SSPX exists in the first place.

    They think the SSPX exists simply because the old mass is better than the new mass and because Vatican II says somethings about "religious liberty" that are difficult to reconcile with past teachings.  And they think exists as their special club, because they're so special, for going to SSPX.

    is it any wonder, when phrased that way, that the chapel-goers do not understand in the slightest WHY the SSPX exists!

    The SSPX exists because MODERNISTS PERVERT AND DESTROY THE CATHOLIC FAITH IN EVERY WAY THEY CAN AND THEY HAVE CONTROL IN ROME.

    Father Pflueger says that complaining about Vatican II too much is bad, the creed is important.

    THE FAITH IS THE REASON THE SSPX EXISTS.  THE NEW MASS IS BAD BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST THE FAITH.  VATICAN II IS BAD BECAUSE ITS AGAINST THE FAITH.  THE CONCILIAR CHURCH IS BAD BECAUSE IT TEACHES A RELIGION DIFFERENT FROM THE CATHOLIC FAITH.



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    SSPX Says Its Safe to Eat Modernist Poison?
    « Reply #3 on: April 15, 2013, 04:47:08 PM »
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  • The very idea that Holy Church, the spotless Bride of Christ guided at all times by the Holy Spirit, can do any of the things we have seen during the last 50-plus years and, somehow, STILL be holy, spotless, identifiable as Christ's Bride and the sole, divinely-appointed teacher of supernatural truth and morals is, to me, complete nonsense.  If Holy Church could go so wrong, what was the point of establishing a church AT ALL?  

    If Our Holy Mother can harm or compromise our faith, as Fr. P. seems to indicate above as an actual possibility, what good is she to me?  Is She and her teaching the infallible and indestructible rule of faith, or am I, with my fallible intellect and disordered heart?

    If the society HQ'd in Rome is, in fact, Holy Church, then it has defected and nothing holds any more.  How can it?  The present-day Roman 'Church' devours its own children and is utterly ruinous of supernatural faith, hope and charity.  Belonging to it does not help a man save his soul, and much that it does presents an obstacle to salvation.  
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #4 on: April 15, 2013, 06:14:21 PM »
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  • Quote from: gladius_veritatis
    The very idea that Holy Church, the spotless Bride of Christ guided at all times by the Holy Spirit, can do any of the things we have seen during the last 50-plus years and, somehow, STILL be holy, spotless, identifiable as Christ's Bride and the sole, divinely-appointed teacher of supernatural truth and morals is, to me, complete nonsense.  If Holy Church could go so wrong, what was the point of establishing a church AT ALL?  

    If Our Holy Mother can harm or compromise our faith, as Fr. P. seems to indicate above as an actual possibility, what good is she to me?  Is She and her teaching the infallible and indestructible rule of faith, or am I, with my fallible intellect and disordered heart?

    If the society HQ'd in Rome is, in fact, Holy Church, then it has defected and nothing holds any more.  How can it?  The present-day Roman 'Church' devours its own children and is utterly ruinous of supernatural faith, hope and charity.  Belonging to it does not help a man save his soul, and much that it does presents an obstacle to salvation.  


    The Holy Catholic Church, the Spotless Bride of Christ may just not contain one single Novus Ordo pope, Bishop, priest or laity. It is truly spotless.

    Christ the Life of the Soul, by Abbot D Columba Marmion 1925 (18 years before Pope Pius XII's Mystici Corporis)

    Chapter 5- THE CHURCH, THE MYSTICAL BODY OF CHRIST (pg 93)

    to procure this glory is the Church. Christ comes on earth to create and constitute the Church; it is the work to which all His existence converges, and He confirms it by His Passion and Death. His love for His Father led Jesus Christ to the mountain of Calvary but it was there to form the Church, and make of her, by purifying her in His Divine Blood, a spotless and immaculate Bride: Dilexit Ecclesiam et seipsum tradidit pro ea ut illam sanctificaret (Ephes 5:25-26).

    This is what St. Paul tells us. Let us then see what this Church is, of which the name occurs so often under the great Apostle's pen as to be inseparable from that of Christ.

    We may consider the Church in two ways: first as a visible, hierarchical society, founded by Christ to continue His sanctifying mission here below; she appears thus, as a living organism. But this point of view is not the only one; to have a complete idea of the Church, we must regard her, as the holy and invisible society of the souls that share by grace in Christ's Divine Sonship, and form the Kingdom He won by His Blood. That is what St. Paul calls the body of Christ, not of course, His physical body, but His mystical body. It is on this second point of view we shall principally dwell: we must not, however, pass over the first in silence.

    It is true that the invisible Church, or the soul of the Church, is more important than the visible Church, but, in the normal economy of Christianity, it is only by union with the visible society that souls have participation in the possessions and privileges of the invisible kingdom of Christ. END



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    SSPX Says Its Safe to Eat Modernist Poison?
    « Reply #5 on: April 15, 2013, 07:59:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    You know, I think the fanatical anti-sedevacantism that was carefully cultivated was leading up to this:

    Whenever the truth about the conciliarists and their errors and heresies is discussed the accusation of "sede" is made.


    This is absolutely correct!

    Consider that Bishop Fellay even accused the other three bishops--all three of them!--of, at least, harboring sedevacantists sentiments.  I only wish it had been true!