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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Matthew on June 12, 2012, 01:42:59 PM
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I just heard it on good authority that a deal with Rome might be announced by Bishop Fellay this Friday.
Who am I getting this news from? A CathInfo member, who claims to have spoken to someone on "the list":
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Running-List-of-SSPX-Priests-expelled-or-in-danger-of-same
More coming soon -- stay tuned!
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The Lord help us!
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At the end of yet another world-wide novena? :scratchchin:
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Renewal-of-Consecration-of-SSPX-to-Sacred-Heart
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Our Lady won't be mocked... Poor traitors!!!
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Could it mean that this Friday the rejection of the deal will be announced?
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Friday is Ordination Day at St Thomas Aquinas Seminary. Bishop T will be there for the ordinations. 8 more priests for us. So why announce this day??
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I think you are right dear Matthew. A friend from Italy told me that Bishop Fellay is currently in Albano, she said also that the deal is done and the agreement will be announced on june 15.
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I think you are right dear Matthew. A friend from Italy told me that Bishop Fellay is currently in Albano, she said also that the deal is done and the agreement will be announced on june 15.
She?
So this is something she heard third-hand?
Just asking without malice.
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15th JUNE !
MOST SACRED HEART OF JESUS,
HAVE MERCY ON US.
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I hope so, the Church needs the SSPX.
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I think you are right dear Matthew. A friend from Italy told me that Bishop Fellay is currently in Albano, she said also that the deal is done and the agreement will be announced on june 15.
She?
So this is something she heard third-hand?
Just asking without malice.
On no, excuse me, I must said "she, (my friend) also told me"...
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In times like this, I'm glad I'm not a Mohammedan because I'd want to go out and take it out on some infidels. That's how they cope with frustration.
Kyrie eleison!
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I hope so, the Church needs the SSPX.
see here:
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Eleison-Comments-Number-CCLIII-253
On the one hand the SSPX is part of the true Catholic whole, “one, holy, Catholic and apostolic”. On the other hand it had better avoid making itself part of the diseased Conciliar whole. As a healthy branch grafted onto the unhealthy Conciliar plant, it would necessarily catch the Conciliar disease. No way can a mere branch heal that disease. +Williamson
or here:
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Eleison-Comments-CCLII-252
or here:
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/SSPX-Rome-sermon-by-Fr-Joseph-Pfeiffer
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Transcript-Fr-Pfeiffers-sermon
We must stand firm for the Faith. Many souls are in grave jeopardy today because Bishop Fellay has decided to play with fire and smile, because he's got the grace of state. Faith is greater than the grace of state. Faith is first. And the father of the family does not have the right to jeopardize his family. He doesn't have the right to tear it apart. He doesn't have the right to compromise. For what?
What promises have they made him? They have lied to the others. They have destroyed the others. You know that Father Laguerie, the superior of the Good Shepherd Institute, which was started in 2006, he called Father de Cacqueray a month ago. Father de Cacqueray is the French priest that came here. Back in 2006, Father Laguerie was in his church and he wasn't going to leave it. Father de Cacqueray came in by himself. He walked up the center aisle with 250 people, who were all behind Father Laguerie. He stood in front of all the people and he said: Father Laguerie, get out of this church. This is [an] SSPX church. You are not following our rules, get out. And you people, get out! Father Laguerie said: I am happy that you came to me like a man and you spoke to me like a man and you condemned me like a man. I go out. And he went out.
Six years later, Father Laguerie calls up Father de Cacqueray, his Father: Remember me? I'm the priest you threw out in the correct way you should have done it. I am telling you, don't make a deal with Rome! I did! We made the deal six years ago, and now they're crushing us! You saw the docuмent of March 23rd where Cardinal [correction: Monsignor ] "Pozzo the clown” commands us to live according to the spirit of Summorum Pontificuм, that we have to accept the New Mass, that we have to incorporate the Catechism of the Catholic Church into our seminaries, that we have to teach modernism and crap in our seminaries. [Letter to Institute of the Good Shepherd] We are trapped! But they told us six years ago, “No conditions.” I'm calling you because of the respect I have for you, because you treated me like a man. So I'm telling you.
Fr. J Pfeiffer
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At the end of yet another world-wide novena? :scratchchin:
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Renewal-of-Consecration-of-SSPX-to-Sacred-Heart
If this is the case, Cor Jesu sacratissimum, miserere nobis. :cry:
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I hope so, the Church needs the SSPX.
Could you explain how the SSPX is going to help the Church when it enters with both hands tied behind its back?
(IOW, one of the acknowledged conditions is the diocesan bishop must give permission for the Society to establish in the diocese, a rule that is killing the FSSP).
This recognition isn't about bringing Tradition to the Church. It's about destroying it in order to usher in the hybrid Mass and theology, aka, the Hegalian Third Way.
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I hope so, the Church needs the SSPX.
Could you explain how the SSPX is going to help the Church when it enters with both hands tied behind its back?
(IOW, one of the acknowledged conditions is the diocesan bishop must give permission for the Society to establish in the diocese, a rule that is killing the FSSP).
This recognition isn't about bringing Tradition to the Church. It's about destroying it in order to usher in the hybrid Mass and theology, aka, the Hegalian Third Way.
And once the Neo-SSPX becomes, in effect, the "Society of 'Blessed' John XXIII," the expelled, but true, SSPX can recover their rightful name. It will only make sense, because the Neo-SSPX will then have de Lubac, von Balthasar, Blondel, et al, on their seminary shelves, and +Lefebvre will be relegated to the "hell" shelf, as they so euphemistically put it. Of course, I hope this doesn't happen. But it doesn't look good. Kyrie Eleison.
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From Radio Cristiandad:
The report of Father Michel Koller in his sermon on Sunday 10, together with many other information coming from everywhere, confirmed the imminent signing of a practical agreement between the Rome and Bishop Bernard Fellay, to give a canonical status to the SSPX.
This signature will be the climax of the operation ѕυιcιdє of the Work of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.
Radio Cristiandad is able to announce that Bishop Fellay and his two assistants, Father Pfluger and Nely, have been summoned to Rome, and will be there tomorrow, Wednesday June 13.
Radio Cristiandad (http://radiocristiandad.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/fellay-pfluger-y-nely-llamados-a-roma-urgente/)
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And once the Neo-SSPX becomes, in effect, the "Society of 'Blessed' John XXIII,"
I don't know whether to laugh or cry because the name makes perfect sense!
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Cristera, thank you for the latest report. June 13th is a very interesting date as it the anniversary of the second apparition of Our Lady of Fatima and the Feast Day of St. Anthony of Padua, the Hammer of Heretics.
During the second apparition, Our Lady remarked to Lucy: "...are you suffering a great deal? Don't lose heart, I will never forsake you. My Immaculate Heart will be your refuge and the way that will lead you to God."
A very beautiful and timely message for those of us who only wish to keep the whole and entire True Faith of Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Our Lady of Fatima, please pray for us. St. Anthony, please pray for us.
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Remember Brethren,
If this "deal" does indeed happen, It could not be unless it has the approval of the Jєωιѕн authorities in the Vatican. This Pope would not move forward on this unless it was so. Think about that, and what it means.
Bishop Fellay has a Zionist agent as his closest advisor. Other collaborators have been informing them of the substance of resistance on these forums.
Prepare for the Society of St. Nostra Aetate.
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And once the Neo-SSPX becomes, in effect, the "Society of 'Blessed' John XXIII,"
I don't know whether to laugh or cry because the name makes perfect sense!
If I didn't know better, I'd think it was a sick joke. But remember how that happened? It was on the occasion of the beatification of Pope Pius IX, who gave us the Syllabus of Errors and Vatican I and the dogmatic definition of the Immaculate Coception -- THAT Pius IX -- it was on the occasion of his beatification that the infamous John XXIII of infalicitous memory (words of Canon Gregory Hesse, whom I heard in person say them) was named "blessed" as well.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry because the name makes perfect sense! ------- wait, you already said that. Took the words right out of my mouth!
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Friday is Ordination Day at St Thomas Aquinas Seminary. Bishop T will be there for the ordinations. 8 more priests for us.
So why announce this day??
Friday June 15th is the Feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Double of the First Class. So why announce this day?
I'm looking at the calendar and can't find another day that would be a greater insult to Our Lord or to Tradition, to announce this dirty deed.
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Friday is Ordination Day at St Thomas Aquinas Seminary. Bishop T will be there for the ordinations. 8 more priests for us.
So why announce this day??
Friday June 15th is the Feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Double of the First Class. So why announce this day?
I'm looking at the calendar and can't find another day that would be a greater insult to Our Lord or to Tradition, to announce this dirty deed.
Exactly.
Some public act of unity or deference to VII Rome will be required of the Society leadership, soon, if history repeats itself as it did with the other trad organizations.
Maybe the feast of SS Peter and Paul on the 29th or worse, the feast of Pope St. Pius X in September.
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According to Radio Cristiandad, +Bishop Fellay and his two assistants were urgently called to Rome, they are there this morning, Wednesday, June 13th.
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From Rorate-Caeli:
[1950 Rome time - Update] "The response of Benedict XVI to the 'Lefebvrists' not to be known before the weekend." "Bp. Fellay will have some days to put his signature on the text" (SSPX spokesman Fr. Lorans, to Agence France Presse - LB2S Twitter feed (La Croix religion journalist) Lorans added that "it will be a week-10 days before further moves, today was just a step in the process" (A.Speciale Twitter feed)
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I hope so, the Church needs the SSPX.
Could you explain how the SSPX is going to help the Church when it enters with both hands tied behind its back?
(IOW, one of the acknowledged conditions is the diocesan bishop must give permission for the Society to establish in the diocese, a rule that is killing the FSSP).
This recognition isn't about bringing Tradition to the Church. It's about destroying it in order to usher in the hybrid Mass and theology, aka, the Hegalian Third Way.
And once the Neo-SSPX becomes, in effect, the "Society of 'Blessed' John XXIII," the expelled, but true, SSPX can recover their rightful name. It will only make sense, because the Neo-SSPX will then have de Lubac, von Balthasar, Blondel, et al, on their seminary shelves, and +Lefebvre will be relegated to the "hell" shelf, as they so euphemistically put it. Of course, I hope this doesn't happen. But it doesn't look good. Kyrie Eleison.
Magdalena... I agree with you.
The true SSPX needs to be purged.
The neo-SSPX can follow the Judas character, Bp. Fellay, to join Rome.
They will try to strip us of the Chapels that we built and supported for the last 42
years. The spirit of the SSPX has to be retained and reformed to keep fighting the battle.
Let the Cristeros be our model... Viva Cristo Rey!!!