Author Topic: Where there tend to be pro- and anti-agreement (Read 942 times)

Kephapaulos · « **on:** October 11, 2012, 10:39:45 PM »

Where do there tend to be anti-agreement and pro-agreement areas of the SSPX throughout the world at this point?

I gather now that the SSPX in Latin America is strongly against an agreement. I know in the U.S. here, there is Fr. Rostand, but is the majority of SSPX priests in the U.S. tending to be pro-agreement or indifferent?

songbird · « **Reply #1 on:** October 13, 2012, 04:39:57 PM »

Well, there are some( number?) that have come into Pius X that are from the New Order and not ordained into Pius X. Hm? What about those apples?

bowler · « **Reply #2 on:** October 13, 2012, 08:25:17 PM »

There is now only one agreement, and that is that the SSPX Menzingen accept Vatican II as a valid council with no errors whatsoever, and that the New Mass is totally valid. That is the only agreement on the table right now. Therefore, I presume that every single SSPxer is against that agreement. Tell that to the next "accordista", that asks you if you are for or against "the agreement". The accordista laity don't even know what the agreerment is, they are just "being blindly obedient" to something.

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Bishop Fellay was ready to sign, and God put a roadblock in front of him.

But God did not remove "Bp Fellay and his gang" which are the root of the problem. They didn't change their minds at all, on the contrary. They're just cleansing their Neo-SSPX now i.e. they throw out all the truth-loving clerics and layfolk they can catch (see denial of Holy Communion).

The Menzingen Wizard of Oz facade Crowd have their work cut out for them if they think they can hurdle the wall that God put in front of them. For they will have to convince the other priests and the laity that they must accept Vatican II, and the validity of the new mass, and whatever Mueller says. That's quite a hurdle. Until then every day that goes by more people are learning the truth.

This is like Vatican II all over again, yes, and just like in Vatican II, the novelties kept getting more obvious as time went by, and eventually Abp. Lefebvre saw it clearly ans started the SSPX.

bowler · « **Reply #3 on:** October 14, 2012, 07:00:37 AM »

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There is now only one agreement, and that is that the SSPX Menzingen accept Vatican II as a valid council with no errors whatsoever, and that the New Mass is totally valid. That is the only agreement on the table right now. Therefore, I presume that every single SSPxer is against that agreement. Tell that to the next "accordista", that asks you if you are for or against "the agreement". The accordista laity don't even know what the agreerment is, they are just "being blindly obedient" to something.

The acordista hierarchy and those priests who are their henchmen (very few), the ones that are throwing out people and priests from chapels, are really now (now that the accord is the above described) asking the question:

Are you with Bishop Fellay and whatever he will decide in the future? Will you listen to "us" and trust whatever we say? Or are you with the disobedient?