Author Topic: SSPX Rome Agreement and Despair (Read 5911 times)

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #30 on:** October 12, 2012, 01:02:58 PM »

Prayer and Protesting works. The novus ordo parishes that gave no resistance were shut down and merged the quickest. The ones who resisted have been barely saved. Yes, some of the building are saved but what good if the true Faith doesn't exist. Like that Saint said " Yes the herectics may occupy our Churches but we have the Faith.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #31 on:** October 12, 2012, 01:11:56 PM »

Quote from: Seraphim

Generally a decent post.

I would opine, however, that the worst case scenario is a bit worse than the one you paint.

It would involve being cut off from the sacraments (voluntarily, in the case of an agreement with Rome, for all the reasons we cannot attent FSSP Masses; voluntarily by a further liberalization of the SSPX that manifests itself in doctrinal corruption; involuntarily, by being shown the door at the local parish for not going along with the preparation for a sellout, or protesting the liberalizations already accomplished).

But the general reminder that God is in charge is a good point, as is the reminder that there is no cause for despair because of that, whatever the worst case scenario.

PS: And I would probabley be one of those you consider a "fighter," simply because when you perceive that what you have is being taken from you, acquiescense or resistence are the only 2 options, and I have chosen the latter.

Worst case scenario is being denied communion and police called to remove you... (better then being burned at the stake like St Joan of ARc.

magdalena · « **Reply #32 on:** October 12, 2012, 04:39:17 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

Quote from: Seraphim
Generally a decent post.

I would opine, however, that the worst case scenario is a bit worse than the one you paint.

It would involve being cut off from the sacraments (voluntarily, in the case of an agreement with Rome, for all the reasons we cannot attent FSSP Masses; voluntarily by a further liberalization of the SSPX that manifests itself in doctrinal corruption; involuntarily, by being shown the door at the local parish for not going along with the preparation for a sellout, or protesting the liberalizations already accomplished).

But the general reminder that God is in charge is a good point, as is the reminder that there is no cause for despair because of that, whatever the worst case scenario.

PS: And I would probabley be one of those you consider a "fighter," simply because when you perceive that what you have is being taken from you, acquiescense or resistence are the only 2 options, and I have chosen the latter.

Worst case scenario is being denied communion and police called to remove you... (better then being burned at the stake like St Joan of ARc.

Now they just resort to character assasination and commitment to loony bins. However, in the not too distant future, there may well be death camps. St. Joan of Arc, pray for us.

:heretic:

bowler · « **Reply #33 on:** October 13, 2012, 08:33:29 AM »

Quote from: magdalena

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
Quote from: Seraphim
Generally a decent post.

I would opine, however, that the worst case scenario is a bit worse than the one you paint.

It would involve being cut off from the sacraments (voluntarily, in the case of an agreement with Rome, for all the reasons we cannot attent FSSP Masses; voluntarily by a further liberalization of the SSPX that manifests itself in doctrinal corruption; involuntarily, by being shown the door at the local parish for not going along with the preparation for a sellout, or protesting the liberalizations already accomplished).

But the general reminder that God is in charge is a good point, as is the reminder that there is no cause for despair because of that, whatever the worst case scenario.

PS: And I would probabley be one of those you consider a "fighter," simply because when you perceive that what you have is being taken from you, acquiescense or resistence are the only 2 options, and I have chosen the latter.

Worst case scenario is being denied communion and police called to remove you... (better then being burned at the stake like St Joan of ARc.

Now they just resort to character assasination and commitment to loony bins. However, in the not too distant future, there may well be death camps. St. Joan of Arc, pray for us.

:heretic:

We're talking about the Bishop Fellay and the Novus-SSPX. You are getting carried away.

magdalena · « **Reply #34 on:** October 13, 2012, 08:50:23 PM »

Quote from: bowler

Quote from: magdalena
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey

Worst case scenario is being denied communion and police called to remove you... (better then being burned at the stake like St Joan of ARc.

Now they just resort to character assasination and commitment to loony bins. However, in the not too distant future, there may well be death camps. St. Joan of Arc, pray for us.

:heretic:

We're talking about the Bishop Fellay and the Novus-SSPX. You are getting carried away.

Ok, so I got a bit carried away. And I regret that. If you recall, however, there have been NO priests treated in a similar manner as I mentioned after having gone against VII. And with regards to death camps, or some such thing, no one really knows what will happen to faithful Catholics in the final days. It was only my intent to show that there are worse things than being expelled from SSPX chapels--if that should happen.

bowler · « **Reply #35 on:** October 14, 2012, 06:54:29 AM »

Quote from: magdalena

And with regards to death camps, or some such thing, no one really knows what will happen to faithful Catholics in the final days. It was only my intent to show that there are worse things than being expelled from SSPX chapels--if that should happen.

Understood. Very good observation.