Where I would disagree is with your opinion that we still have 3 bishops against the one.

In reality we have one bishop who will oppose Menzingen with words, but as yet has not taken any concrete actions to oppose this policy.

Then we have the 2 other bishops who voted for the scandalous declaration and 6 conditions left dangling before the Romans to re-enter negotiations for a merely practical accord at any time.

These latter may (or may not) be with us privately, but they also have said or done nothing to oppose the scandalous declaration and 6 conditions.

So the reality is that we have 1 bishop who opposes with words, and 2 who absent themselves from the entire debate, versus 1 in Menzingen who acts with robust measures to accomplish his objective.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict who will win if things continue like this.

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The greatest help for me not to dispair is to always keep in mind that God brings good out of all negatives.  When I came to the realization that I had to stop atttending the NO mass and stick exclusively with the TLM I did so believing that it was God who was motivating me and He would undertake for me and show me what to do.  I was at the local SSPX within 2 weeks, and I didn't know anything about their group except their name and did not know where the chapel was when I made the decision.  I had never heard of ABL because I was a convert.  So, God is ABLE and WILLING to back up our good decisions in His grace at all times.  

Yes, JuanDiego, God will not let us down, if we do not let Him down, though it may be different than what we think.  

To clear up any misunderstanding, my point was that if we abandon God, He will leave us to our own devices.  And if we do not abandon God, He will bring us to that which He desires for our salvation, though it may contain much tribulation and suffering.  Onward soldiers!  

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You are not up to speed with the facts:

1) All their public statements against a practical accord preceded the General Chapter.

2) They have made no public statements against an accord since the General Chapter.

3) They both voted for the General Chapter Declaration, which was an official act of the SSPX allowing a practical accord before the doctrinal issues were resolved with the Romans.

4) They both voted for the still-standing scandalous 6 conditions, which exist as a perpetual invitation for Rome to re-approach the SSPX with a merely practical accord.

5) Their inaction, coupled with their silence, tell the world that they will go along with Menzingen, whatever they may think interiorly.

6) And in this way, they present a shocking repetition of what happened at Varican II: Unity over doctrine and tradition.

Thanks for the lesson. Nevertheless, they are not happy with the accord, and most important, they are not part of the Menzingen crowd.

The M crowd are only a few people, a stack of cards that can be brought down. The M crowd is composed of Bishop Fellay and a few people in key positions. Those few people were put into those positions they are in, not because they are qualified to do the best job, but because they are obedient to Fellay. They are like the appointments of Stalin. Stalin got rid of everyone that was qualified, and put in the people that were obidient to him.

Fr. Rostand is out of his league at responding to the internet forums questions, because he is not qualified to be a district superior. Fellay does not appoint qualified people, he appoints people obedient to him.

Seraphim is right.  

+Fellay has stacked the deck with his mediocre "yes" men and the rest seem to be frightened into silence.  I have waited in vain for one of the other Bishops to stand up and lead the charge .... instead ... a complete lack of action.   Quo vadis, Your Lordships?

O God, come to our aid.  O Lord, make haste to help us.  Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.

The Little Man Behind the Curtain

The Wizard of Oz, in his most embarrassing moment, thunders through a microphone that the Dorothy and her companions should ignore the little man who stands revealed when Toto pulls the curtain aside with his little teeth. "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE LITTLE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!" bellows the great Mask of Oz the Terrible.

Perhaps, instead, it is about time we began paying some attention to the little man behind the curtain (Bishop Fellay). His switches and controls have something to do with what we are experiencing, more than he would have us know.

He is just a Little Man hiding behind a big thundering screen! Do not be scared by him, he can be defeated. God is with us.


A good example of how God is with us, and in control,  was that when the Fellay was ready to sign the accord on the dotted line, the pope asked for two new capitulations, and then he appointed a hardline progressivist (heretic) Bishop Mueller. Bishop Fellay was ready to sign, and God put a roadblock in front of him. God is in control.

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Seraphim is right.  

+Fellay has stacked the deck with his mediocre "yes" men and the rest seem to be frightened into silence.  I have waited in vain for one of the other Bishops to stand up and lead the charge .... instead ... a complete lack of action.   Quo vadis, Your Lordships?

O God, come to our aid.  O Lord, make haste to help us.  Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.

"And Jacob boiled pottage: to whom Esau, coming faint out of the field, said: Give me of this red pottage, for I am exceeding faint.  For which reason his name was called Edom.  And Jacob said to him: Swear therefore to me. Esau swore to him, and sold his first birthright.  And so taking bread and the pottage of lentils, he ate, and drank, and went his way; making little account of having sold his first birthright."  Genesis 25: 29-34

Pope St. Pius X, pray for us.