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Re: SSPX Response to Bishop Williamson
« Reply #70 on: February 01, 2025, 10:16:43 PM »
The SSPX chapel down here sent a last-minute email stating that there would be a Mass on Thursday for the repose of Bishop Williamson.
That's odd. Usually when a priest in the SSPX dies, they say a requiem for his soul the next day. ☹

Re: SSPX Response to Bishop Williamson
« Reply #71 on: February 01, 2025, 10:35:14 PM »
That's odd. Usually when a priest in the SSPX dies, they say a requiem for his soul the next day. ☹
At the SSPX church where I am, both priests offered Mass for the repose of Bishop Williamson's soul the day after his death i.e. the next Mass they offered after news of his death. One of the priests also offered at least two Masses before his death for the grace of a happy and holy death.


Re: SSPX Response to Bishop Williamson
« Reply #72 on: February 01, 2025, 11:19:21 PM »
An SSPX priest here in Europe told me, that there is a communication from the General House on the subject of requiem.
It states that a private requiem for Bishop Williamson is possible, but not a public one.
"Private" in this context means that the intention for which the Mass is being offered is known to no one but the celebrant (and the the donor of the stipend, or to very few other person). The opposite would be an announced Mass.

Anyone who knows a little about canon law will notice that this order corresponds to the treatment of excommunicated persons. In the Codex Iuris Canonici of 1917, c. 2262 states (in English translation):
 
Canon 2262
 
§ 1. One excommunicated is not able to participate in the indulgences, suffrages, and public prayers of the Church.
§ 2. Nevertheless, it is not prohibited:
 1.° For the faithful to pray privately for him;
 2.° For priests privately and avoiding scandal to apply Mass for him; but, if he is banned, only for his conversion.


Re: SSPX Response to Bishop Williamson
« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2025, 12:48:18 AM »
An SSPX priest here in Europe told me, that there is a communication from the General House on the subject of requiem.
It states that a private requiem for Bishop Williamson is possible, but not a public one.
"Private" in this context means that the intention for which the Mass is being offered is known to no one but the celebrant (and the the donor of the stipend, or to very few other person). The opposite would be an announced Mass.

Anyone who knows a little about canon law will notice that this order corresponds to the treatment of excommunicated persons. In the Codex Iuris Canonici of 1917, c. 2262 states (in English translation):
 
Canon 2262
 
§ 1. One excommunicated is not able to participate in the indulgences, suffrages, and public prayers of the Church.
§ 2. Nevertheless, it is not prohibited:
1.° For the faithful to pray privately for him;
2.° For priests privately and avoiding scandal to apply Mass for him; but, if he is banned, only for his conversion.

Very interesting.
If it is true, it certainly was not observed by SSPX priests in my neck of the woods.
I confess, I am having difficulty believing they could do such a wicked thing, and I would hope, if it is true, that many priests will treat such an illegitimate command with the contempt that it deserves.

Re: SSPX Response to Bishop Williamson
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2025, 10:14:23 AM »
An SSPX priest here in Europe told me, that there is a communication from the General House on the subject of requiem.
It states that a private requiem for Bishop Williamson is possible, but not a public one.
"Private" in this context means that the intention for which the Mass is being offered is known to no one but the celebrant (and the the donor of the stipend, or to very few other person). The opposite would be an announced Mass.

Anyone who knows a little about canon law will notice that this order corresponds to the treatment of excommunicated persons. In the Codex Iuris Canonici of 1917, c. 2262 states (in English translation):

Canon 2262

§ 1. One excommunicated is not able to participate in the indulgences, suffrages, and public prayers of the Church.
§ 2. Nevertheless, it is not prohibited:
1.° For the faithful to pray privately for him;
2.° For priests privately and avoiding scandal to apply Mass for him; but, if he is banned, only for his conversion.

But +Williamson was only "excommunicated" from the SSPX, not the Catholic Church, unless the SSPX thinks his Novus Ordo "excommunication" for "illicitly" consecrating bishops is valid?