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Offline Miser Peccator

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Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2021, 05:00:06 PM »
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  • Jones can't stay in business if he tells the whole truth...most people can't.

    For example: When E. Michael Jones debated Jared Taylor on the issue of "Race" and "The Jєωs", Jones was right about the Jєωs but wrong about Race while Jared Taylor was right about Race but wrong about the Jєωs. Jones continues his schtick of "only blaming Jєωs but not attacking Modernism" when he tries to convince Catholics that the worst thing that happened at Vatican II was Nostra Aetate when any honest Catholic can see that it was the destruction of the "old religion."

    Jones isn't as upset about the New Mass as a true Catholic should be and would be, after finding out all of the things he now knows about "The Jєωs". If Jones told the whole truth by putting the blame on both Jєωs and the post-Vatican II Popes, then I'd find him completely honest.....but then that would be "too honest" and possibly a "danger" to his well-being.


    Yes, and he has never, ever, once pointed out the dangers of the Noahide Laws.
    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Offline John Felton

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    Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
    « Reply #16 on: December 15, 2021, 05:40:02 PM »
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  • Both Michael Voris and E. Michael Jones are Opus Dei.


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    Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
    « Reply #17 on: December 15, 2021, 05:45:49 PM »
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  • Yes, and he has never, ever, once pointed out the dangers of the Noahide Laws.
    This is yet another example of Jones' refusal to speak what he knows to be the whole truth

    Offline TradMan80

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    Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
    « Reply #18 on: December 15, 2021, 05:46:41 PM »
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  • Both Michael Voris and E. Michael Jones are Opus Dei.
    And who officially let Opus Dei into the Church in 1950? ::)

    Offline Todd The Trad

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    Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
    « Reply #19 on: December 15, 2021, 05:57:21 PM »
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  • I'm sure a lot of you guys already know this and I'm not suggesting he hasn't left it all behind him, but Michael Voris has admitted to being a practicing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ in the past. I don't read Church Militant much, but I remember him badmouthing SSPX once over a sɛҳuąƖ abuse case. sɛҳuąƖ abuse is practically non-existent in the SSPX compared to the Conciliar Church. Of course, it exists to at least some degree everywhere. But I remember thinking, if he's going after SSPX over sɛҳuąƖ abuse, which has never been known to be a problem there, he must really have it out for them for another reason.  

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    Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
    « Reply #20 on: December 15, 2021, 07:44:55 PM »
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  • Voris needs a better wig and just makes his money by deliberately provoking Traditional Catholics so they fight amongst each other. And E. Michael Jones does the same thing.
    Both are grifters from the stable of Opus Dei supernumerary Marc Brammer. Both seem to say plausible things at times, but if both are looked at, their positions are riven with impossibilities. Voris was engaging in sodomy when SSPX priests were offering Mass in hired halls. Someone observed of Voris that he still checks out men in the gym he goes to in metro Detroit. EMJ is a uber fan of V2 yet holds a position on Jewry that V2 repeatedly and clearly condemned.

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    Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
    « Reply #21 on: December 15, 2021, 08:04:44 PM »
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  • Jones can't stay in business if he tells the whole truth...most people can't.


    I guess we should give credit where credit is due though.  Jones actually allowed Robert Sungenis to do a stunning cover story review of Christopher Bollyn's ground breaking book, Solving 9/11: The Deception That Changed the World, the book which spelled out who really planned, executed, and covered up 9-11.  The review was so thorough that it had to go into two issues of Culture Wars.  The first issue (July/August 2012) is seen here: https://culturewars.com/volumes-31-40/cw-31-8


    Offline TradMan80

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    Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
    « Reply #22 on: December 15, 2021, 11:11:50 PM »
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  • I guess we should give credit where credit is due though.  
    Absolutely. Just like other Catholic personalities, he puts out some good stuff. But again when one is a popular personality (whether Catholic or not) one has to mix what one knows to be the truth with what one knows to be lies. That's how the divide & conquer strategy keeps on working. 


    Offline Meg

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    Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
    « Reply #23 on: December 16, 2021, 12:18:05 AM »
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  • OK - how about this:  Our private opinion must be based on prayer.  I've never ever gotten the idea that Bishop Fellay wants to be in union with MODERNIST Rome.  Of course he wants to be in union with Rome but these are strange times.  I too want to be in union with Rome but simply can't abide the imposter's heresies.  I want to see some quotes that Bishop Fellay wants to drag the SSPX into full 'union' with Modernist Rome.

    Why do you think the Resistance was started in the first place? Why do you think Bp. Williamson was booted out of the SSPX? 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
    « Reply #24 on: December 16, 2021, 01:36:10 AM »
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  • Why do you think the Resistance was started in the first place? Why do you think Bp. Williamson was booted out of the SSPX?
    And where would Fr Paul Robinson be if SSPX wasn't going/gone modernist? He's be out on his ear or change his tune.

    And what about their disgusting cuddling up to Francis over the dead babies vax jab?

    Sure some good priests have spoken out, but the management has sold out. Shame!
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    Offline Anne Evergreen

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    Re: Michael Voris and the SSPX
    « Reply #25 on: December 16, 2021, 01:47:51 AM »
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  • All anyone need do, is ask MV what he was doing over 4 decades ago while +ABL's SSPX and many other courageous trads were laboring against all odds to keep and hand down the faith. We know what he was doing but it's too sickening to even mention.
    I could be completely wrong about this, but it could very well be that if what you say is true in regards to the length of his history of "uh, mucking about in the mudpit and cesspool," (not even going to put a name to it tonight. I am not in the mood), well, it may very well have been some early contact with the SSPX that put a bee in his bonnet and gave him a seemingly permanent axe to grind towards them. Another way of saying that he may have run into an SSPX Priest back in the day that told him about his lifestyle and he didn't like hearing about it then?

    It is pure speculation on my part, but depending on what part of the US he was in at the time, I could see a situation where he might have been curious about the SSPX Mass near him, and wanted to see what they were all about. At that time though, many local parish bulletins would print "warnings," in them advising their parishioners "not to attend! Nyet!" Because of the whole "schism," thing.

    Meanwhile, colorful banners and parades were popping up all over creation to bring in the celebration of puke, and very often in June, on a Sunday, and very close to the Feast of the Sacred Heart. Perhaps an SSPX chapel may have put out their own warnings against such things, and posted times for a Holy Hour of Reparation for it.

    MV is in the media. That in itself is not a suitable profession for someone that worships self in the acts of puke with other men. The two things together are a really bad combination-double pride. The fact that he has his own media deal now does not really help much in that regard, but I suppose daily prayer with a bunch of his colleagues would. (You would not find that in secular media, so I could see why that would be helpful to him). 

    On the flip side? It is great that he changed his ways and is trying to live a chaste life now. It must be very difficult for him, and he needs lots of prayers. But maybe a less in-your-face profession or occupation would be better for him in the long run and prevent more trouble? It is a mixed bag. There are some things that he says that are true, and others that are not true. Caution is in order.