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Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant

Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does it mean? " Remain in the SSPX such as you are by saying mass " non una cuм " but never say it to anybody! " I am pretty sure this is very relevant, but I don't understand what was being asked of the priest. Thanks

BpF was asking Fr Grossin to keep his sedevacantism to himself - keep it private.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

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Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant

Please forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does it mean? " Remain in the SSPX such as you are by saying mass " non una cuм " but never say it to anybody! " I am pretty sure this is very relevant, but I don't understand what was being asked of the priest. Thanks

"Non una cuм" means that this is a mass where the priests doesn't mention the name of the Pope, meaning: he is not united to him (because he considers him as a heretic). At the memento, just before consecrating, the priest says "una cuм famulo tuo Papa Benedicto" or nothing for the sedevacantist priests.

So, there are two masses: the masses "una cuм" and the masses "non una cuм". Officially the SSPX priests say "una cuм" masses. I know that some of them don't, but in secret. This is not the official position of the SSPX, who considers the pope as pope.

Regards.

This is true.  

And furthermore, lest it be overlooked, in this current interregnum of sede
vacante,  while there is no pope since Benedict XVI has abdicated (do not
say he "resigned" because there is no power on earth to whom any pope
can "resign" his papacy! only say "abdicated" or "renounced"), all of the
Catholics in the diocese of Rome assist at "non una cuм" Masses, for there
is no Bishop of Rome and there is no Pope now, so the prayer before the
consecration that says in union with the Pope, N., and the Bishop, N., is
omitted entirely.  Elsewhere in the world, where there is still a local bishop,
the prayer is said for the bishop alone, and the name of the pope is only
omitted.

Of course, sedevacantist Catholic priests and bishops do not pray for the local
bishop nor for the pope, because they do not believe that there is one of either.
They say that the papacy has been vacant for many years now, and that the
consecration rite for bishops having been abolished in 1969 for no good
reason (apparently - except for the BAD reason of destroying the Church),
leaves the Church, therefore, with no ordinary bishops any more, as the
validly consecrated ones are now either dead or no longer active.  Even
Benedict XVI, erstwhile Fr. Joseph Ratzinger, was consecrated bishop after
the new changes were made in 1969, and so these sedes claim he is not even
a real bishop, so how could he have been "bishop of Rome?"