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  • I think it is important for the people on this forum to know what an SSPX priest preached from the pulpit this past Sunday. I have no desire to say anything bad about ANY priest so I will be as careful as possible and only repeat what he said in sermons in public or to us in personal meetings.  This all occured at the SSPX chapel that we have attended for over 7 years.

    A little background:  We have been concerned for a while now about the direction that the SSPX is heading and my husband and I have had some very candid, honest discussions with our pastor and felt for a long time that he was really listening and perhaps shared our concerns.  After Father Pfeiffer said Mass at our home, which we were upfront with our pastor about, we were called in for a very long meeting where we were told about how bad Father Chazal and Father Pfeiffer were.  We were disappointed and stopped talking to our priest about everything after that but all remained cordial and friendly.  

    We drove 6 hours to Post Falls, Idaho and spent 5 days and 4 nights in two hotel rooms with 10 children (who ALL got sick) so that we could have our children confirmed by Bishop Williamson.  It was crazy, chaotic, sleepless and a wonderful privilege.  We know we did the right thing and have no regrets.   The Sunday that we were in Idaho our priest preached a sermon that compared Bishop Williamson and Father Pfeiffer to “Judaizers” and called them enemies of the Church.  We were not planning to go back, but with no other Mass options we decided to go back the next week in hopes that it would all die down and we could quietly continue at the parish.  We told only close friends about our children’s Confirmation so as not to cause problems at our parish.  The sermon the week we were there was about St. Joseph and nothing at all was said to us about anything.

    We did not attend our usual chapel this Sunday but heard from the other parishioners that during the sermon, Father referred to us as a family from this parish who had their children confirmed by Bishop Williamson and compared us to illegitimate children and protestants.  He told everyone that we did it against his wishes and his command.  We never spoke to him about it at all so we did nothing against his command.  Father went on to say that the Bishop and priests involved are a disgrace.  He also said that some people don't come to Stations of the Cross on Fridays in Lent but they can go all the way to Idaho to have our children confirmed.  The chapel is 92.5 miles ($50 in gas round trip) from our house and we usually attend at least 6 times a month.  We say our Stations of the Cross as a family on Fridays in our home in front of an indulgenced crucifix.  He then said that he would be driving 6 hours on his own dime to lead the Stations this Friday and anyone who didn't come should write to his superior and ask for a new priest.  Many people were upset by his sermon.  

    We prayed that God would give us a clear sign if we were supposed to leave so I thank Him for answering that prayer.  My heart would have broken if that had been said in front of my already confused children.  I think they want to get rid of us so we don't cause trouble so part of me wants to go back and stir things up  to wake some people up.  Please pray for this priest.  He had a special place in our hearts for what he did for my dad as he was dying and it breaks my heart that he spoke of us this way.  

    Blessed be God!

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    « Reply #1 on: March 12, 2013, 02:55:01 PM »
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  • I would not leave the chapel unless expelled.

    Stay and make him continue to condemn you.

    He will build the resistance by scandalizing the faithful.
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    « Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 03:25:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: bvmknight
    I think it is important for the people on this forum to know what an SSPX priest preached from the pulpit this past Sunday. I have no desire to say anything bad about ANY priest so I will be as careful as possible and only repeat what he said in sermons in public or to us in personal meetings.  This all occured at the SSPX chapel that we have attended for over 7 years.

    A little background:  We have been concerned for a while now about the direction that the SSPX is heading and my husband and I have had some very candid, honest discussions with our pastor and felt for a long time that he was really listening and perhaps shared our concerns.  After Father Pfeiffer said Mass at our home, which we were upfront with our pastor about, we were called in for a very long meeting where we were told about how bad Father Chazal and Father Pfeiffer were.  We were disappointed and stopped talking to our priest about everything after that but all remained cordial and friendly.  

    We drove 6 hours to Post Falls, Idaho and spent 5 days and 4 nights in two hotel rooms with 10 children (who ALL got sick) so that we could have our children confirmed by Bishop Williamson.  It was crazy, chaotic, sleepless and a wonderful privilege.  We know we did the right thing and have no regrets.   The Sunday that we were in Idaho our priest preached a sermon that compared Bishop Williamson and Father Pfeiffer to “Judaizers” and called them enemies of the Church.  We were not planning to go back, but with no other Mass options we decided to go back the next week in hopes that it would all die down and we could quietly continue at the parish.  We told only close friends about our children’s Confirmation so as not to cause problems at our parish.  The sermon the week we were there was about St. Joseph and nothing at all was said to us about anything.

    We did not attend our usual chapel this Sunday but heard from the other parishioners that during the sermon, Father referred to us as a family from this parish who had their children confirmed by Bishop Williamson and compared us to illegitimate children and protestants.  He told everyone that we did it against his wishes and his command.  We never spoke to him about it at all so we did nothing against his command.  Father went on to say that the Bishop and priests involved are a disgrace.  He also said that some people don't come to Stations of the Cross on Fridays in Lent but they can go all the way to Idaho to have our children confirmed.  The chapel is 92.5 miles ($50 in gas round trip) from our house and we usually attend at least 6 times a month.  We say our Stations of the Cross as a family on Fridays in our home in front of an indulgenced crucifix.  He then said that he would be driving 6 hours on his own dime to lead the Stations this Friday and anyone who didn't come should write to his superior and ask for a new priest.  Many people were upset by his sermon.  

    We prayed that God would give us a clear sign if we were supposed to leave so I thank Him for answering that prayer.  My heart would have broken if that had been said in front of my already confused children.  I think they want to get rid of us so we don't cause trouble so part of me wants to go back and stir things up  to wake some people up.  Please pray for this priest.  He had a special place in our hearts for what he did for my dad as he was dying and it breaks my heart that he spoke of us this way.  

    Blessed be God!


    Bvmknight,

    I am sorry you had to endure such things; along with the SSPX directing it to your children.  In looking at the Crucifix, our Lord had said that these things would happen.  

    The sadness, especially, is that it is coming from our "own" priests who we have supported for years, and discover one day that they "turned" liberal to now wanting us to follow the conciliar church in their new-traitorous-deal.

    No, we cannot follow.  The Faith is above false unity.

    As he had said these things to everyone in attendance within a public sermon, can you let us know which Priest it is?  I think your chapel is served by the Post Falls priests.

    God bless.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 04:08:30 PM »
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  • Machabbes, it  is Father Johnson.

    Seraphim, I agree with you and we are prayerfully deciding whether or not to return.  Please pray for us.

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    « Reply #4 on: March 12, 2013, 04:12:09 PM »
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  •  prayers for your situation.... there will be many who will find themselves in exactly the same situation before long..... :furtive:


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    « Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 04:18:40 PM »
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  • I'm always amazed by the way the neo-SSPX attacks, especially laity, even children, and from the pulpit. And the threats to refuse Holy Communion and the refusal to ordain the Dominicans and Capuchins in the summer. You can't imagine Archbishop Lefebvre ever behaving like that. They condem themselves out of their own mouths.

     They must feel they're in a very weak position to attack so violently. As Bishop Williamson said in his Conference at Post Falls, if you disagree with the liberal dove, you soon see the claws of the hawk.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 12, 2013, 04:19:35 PM »
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  • We will pray for you.  

    To persecute good holy Catholic faithful and priests is sinful.  
    His sermon is very novus ordo.

    It seems that the liberals have infiltrated the SSPX and now are working to corrupt it.  

     
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    « Reply #8 on: March 12, 2013, 04:19:36 PM »
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    Machabbes, it  is Father Johnson.

    Seraphim, I agree with you and we are prayerfully deciding whether or not to return.  Please pray for us.


    See, they can't really EXPEL anyone without losing their tax-exempt status, supplied jurisdiction, etc.

    But making your life hell until you quit? That's another story. That they can and WILL do -- in fact they have done it in many places. It's their new modus operandi.

    I agree with Seraphim -- you will do countless good by giving yourself to Christ, humbly accepting your own sufferings just as Our Lord accepted His Passion and death.

    Of all the sufferings on this earth, I think it's most pleasant to be treated like Christ was, say, before Holy Thursday. He was Love and Truth itself, and look at the hatred and lies thrown at Him!

    I'm sure Christ's feelings were extremely hurt by the ingratitude and hatred he met in so many quarters -- from those He loved. From His own people.

    I went through something similar at my chapel, though our priest is sympathetic to the resistance. Fr. Rostand fired my wife and me from our volunteer positions at the chapel. If that's the cost of being on the side of Truth, then bring it on.

    We continue to go to Mass there. Even if Father ever did the unthinkable (which I doubt he would do) and tried to expel us from the chapel, I think I'd show up several times just to help separate the sheep and the goats firmly into 2 camps. At that point, anyone against +Williamson, Fr. Pfeiffer (etc.) would have a certain measure of bad will and culpability.

    Right now, God knows how much culpability they have. I've spoken with people who actually LIKED Fr. Hewko very much, but rather than consider his words, they're just "praying for him to return". They would sooner think that a holy priest has gone astray, than consider that maybe they're wrong.

    Very sad.
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    « Reply #9 on: March 12, 2013, 04:21:39 PM »
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  • "we are all going to death, so why not go boldly, and why not go with Christ, why not go without fear, and why not go as our Master went?  Reverend Father Jospeh Pfeiffer.  Please correct me if this is misquoted.
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    « Reply #10 on: March 12, 2013, 04:28:03 PM »
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  • How awful and disgusting.  Prayers.
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    « Reply #11 on: March 12, 2013, 04:52:04 PM »
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    I've spoken with people who actually LIKED Fr. Hewko very much, but rather than consider his words, they're just "praying for him to return".


    We hear "Bad Father Chazal! Bad Father Pfeiffer! Poor Father Hewko!"

    Thank you all for your prayers.

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  • Open letter to SSPX under Bishop Fellay

    Why persecute good and holy families and clergy?   Why not bring up the sins and errors of vatican II?   What does Father Johnson think of the holy sacrament of Marriage and Holy orders?      

    is it true that Bishop Fellay is already messing with Holy Orders.  I think it is really weird for a Rabbi who hates gentiles to give talks to young seminarians.



    Vatican II is not Catholic.  It persecutes the clergy  and faithful just as the sspx is now doing.  

    Recently, in Washington DC   a novus ordo priest was sent to siberia after refusing to give communion to a budist lesbian who was exploiting her own mother's funeral to promote her lesbian agendas.  

    Also, in El paso  Texas,   a novus ordo priest Father Rodriquez was kicked out of novus ordo diocese for preaching against homosexuality and defending the holy sacrament of marriage.  

    By condemning good and holy people  in sermons, Father Johnson is siding with the homosexuals, communinsts, socialists of vatican II.      


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    « Reply #13 on: March 12, 2013, 05:12:27 PM »
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    Machabbes, it is Father Johnson.

    Seraphim, I agree with you and we are prayerfully deciding whether or not to return.  Please pray for us.


    This is an amazing twist with Fr. Johnson; there was some hope in him to do what is right  As I was told that Fr. Johnson gave a rare Post Falls sermon 4-5 months ago, saying that - "Vatican II must die!".  And that - "Vatican II is self condemned!"

    Now, it is SSPX "authority" that reigns and we must only recognize and obey...no longer is it that the Truth will set you free...only what the SSPX tells you.

    Another E-gad.

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    « Reply #14 on: March 12, 2013, 05:25:45 PM »
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  • See, they can't really EXPEL anyone without losing their tax-exempt status, supplied jurisdiction, etc.

    But making your life hell until you quit? That's another story. That they can and WILL do -- in fact they have done it in many places. It's their new modus operandi


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    It's not new.  I went to the SSPX exclusively from 1978 to 2003 and from 1992 onwards I saw the same MO in the United States, Australia and Britain.

     

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