Author Topic: SSPX priests in South America. Letter to Fellay: resign! (Read 5121 times)

Elmer Fudd · « **Reply #15 on:** October 10, 2012, 04:50:09 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

It's starting to look like +Fellay jumped the gun and attempted to pull off a
little coup against the principles of the Society a bit 'too early.' Now he faces an
international backlash against his little ruse.

Maybe the real message is if you come to South America and you DON'T resign first, before you come, you might just find this is your 'last trip' to South America -- or anywhere else!

It's also a possiblility that Bishop Fellay did what he did to draw out the opposition. To see where one's loyalty lay.

http://truerestoration.blogspot.com/2012/05/quo-vadis-sspx-part-iii-ad-romam-for.html

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #16 on:** October 10, 2012, 05:25:31 PM »

Those who think Fellay cares that they want him to resign are as naive as those who wrote letters to J23, Paul6, and their successors, asking them to be nice to "Tradition", to reconsider their course, etc. They did not care as their course was NOT a mistake...neither is Fellay's (IMO). So long as people perceive a man as a friend when he is really an enemy, he will be able to all the more easily knife them in the back from very close range without them even suspecting a thing. "Daddy (they say to the impostor burning their house down and abusing all therein), please reconsider your actions and be nice to your family..." He carries on and they fail to realize he is not, in fact, the head of the house at all, but an impostor come to destroy...

This has been the situation since day one where any resistance has been concerned: far too few see the enemy for what he is and thus, he continues to steamroll all in his path, neutralizing all real or effective opposition.

Things will get better, but not before they get a lot worse and not from merely human agency. Godspeed...hold fast :)

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2012, 07:25:21 PM »

Wish there was a way to verify this letter was written by SSPX priests, and if so, whoandvhow many wrote it!

I suppose since the letter says they want to protect anonymity, we will never know the origins or veracity of the letter.

Sienna629 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 10, 2012, 08:40:13 PM »

Quote from: Seraphim

Wish there was a way to verify this letter was written by SSPX priests, and if so, who and how many wrote it!

I suppose since the letter says they want to protect anonymity, we will never know the origins or veracity of the letter.

Did they lose Bishop de Gallareta to Econe yet? If so, I wouldn't have any problem believing its authenticity. One can fully understand their desire for anonymity at this point, with the way things are playing out.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2012, 09:30:31 PM »

Quote from: Sienna629

Quote from: Seraphim
Wish there was a way to verify this letter was written by SSPX priests, and if so, who and how many wrote it!

I suppose since the letter says they want to protect anonymity, we will never know the origins or veracity of the letter.

Did they lose Bishop de Galarreta to Econe yet? If so, I wouldn't have any problem believing its authenticity. One can fully understand their desire for anonymity at this point, with the way things are playing out.

Are you saying that these Latin American priests want to be anonymous because
they think +de Galarreta is going to turn on them now that he's taking sides with
the normalizers, the Menzingen-denizens? If so, what is the connection -- Latin
America speaks Spanish (and Portuguese) and so does +de Galarreta? Remember,
+Williamson was stationed in Argentina for several years recently...........

Sienna629 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2012, 10:05:57 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: Sienna629
Quote from: Seraphim
Wish there was a way to verify this letter was written by SSPX priests, and if so, who and how many wrote it!

I suppose since the letter says they want to protect anonymity, we will never know the origins or veracity of the letter.

Did they lose Bishop de Galarreta to Econe yet? If so, I wouldn't have any problem believing its authenticity. One can fully understand their desire for anonymity at this point, with the way things are playing out.

Are you saying that these Latin American priests want to be anonymous because
they think +de Galarreta is going to turn on them now that he's taking sides with
the normalizers, the Menzingen-denizens? If so, what is the connection -- Latin
America speaks Spanish (and Portuguese) and so does +de Galarreta? Remember,
+Williamson was stationed in Argentina for several years recently...........

No, no, no! What I'm asking is "Did Bishop de Gallareta get transferred to Switzerland yet as his punishment for the side he apparently took at the General Chapter, which was not +Fellay's side?"

I do not think Bishop de Gallareta is taking sides with the normalizers; he just hasn't taken an open stand yet, just ask Bishop Tissier has not.

If he has been transferred out of Argentina, that would be one reason for those SSPX priests being unhappy with the current Menzingen regime, and hence their letter.

Ethelred · « **Reply #21 on:** October 11, 2012, 02:32:03 AM »

Quote from: Sienna629

I do not think Bishop de Gallareta is taking sides with the normalizers; he just hasn't taken an open stand yet, just ask Bishop Tissier has not.

... has not taken an open stand yet...
Well, it's a little bit too late now to still not have taken an open stand, isn't it? Because the SSPX is dying or already dead, at least from my European crow's nest it looks like the (continental?) European SSPX districts are entirely in the iron fist of the Menzinger betrayers, i.e. they're done.

In America there's at least some public fights. I love it when you show up your French district superior Fr Rostand. Or when Bishop Williamson gives some 100 confirmations in Brazil directly in front of the SSPX locals. Or when his ECs encourage the (SSPX) priests and layfolk world-wide to resist.

poche · « **Reply #22 on:** October 11, 2012, 05:16:30 AM »

We need to pray about this situation.

Francisco · « **Reply #23 on:** October 11, 2012, 06:35:13 AM »

Quote from: Ethelred

Quote from: Sienna629
I do not think Bishop de Gallareta is taking sides with the normalizers; he just hasn't taken an open stand yet, just ask Bishop Tissier has not.

... has not taken an open stand yet...
Well, it's a little bit too late now to still not have taken an open stand, isn't it? Because the SSPX is dying or already dead, at least from my European crow's nest it looks like the (continental?) European SSPX districts are entirely in the iron fist of the Menzinger betrayers, i.e. they're done.

In America there's at least some public fights. I love it when you show up your French district superior Fr Rostand. Or when Bishop Williamson gives some 100 confirmations in Brazil directly in front of the SSPX locals. Or when his ECs encourage the (SSPX) priests and layfolk world-wide to resist.

What some of us hear even here in Asia is what you say, Ethelred, namely, that under Fellay and his stooges, the SSPX is dead as far as Traditional Catholicism is concerned.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #24 on:** October 11, 2012, 07:47:51 AM »

Quote from: poche

We need to pray about this situation.

Ora ET labora, poche... Most want to stress the "ora" and tend to neglect the "labora," even (unwittingly?) seeking to undermine the labors of those who do the actual dirty work.

Francisco · « **Reply #25 on:** October 11, 2012, 08:52:13 AM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

Quote from: poche
We need to pray about this situation.

Ora ET labora, poche... Most want to stress the "ora" and tend to neglect the "labora," even (unwittingly?) seeking to undermine the labors of those who do the actual dirty work.

Very true! And Jesus also told us that not everyone who just keeps saying: Lord, Lord! will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Ora et labora. Prayer and good works/actions