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SSPX priests in South America. Letter to Fellay: resign!
« on: October 09, 2012, 05:46:25 PM »
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  • I was sent this link to a letter written by SSPX priests in Mexico and South America. They ask Bishop Fellay to resign before his incoming visit to Argentina. I do not read Spanish or French but Google translate gives a readable version.

    Spanish original text:
    http://nonpossummus.foroactivo.mx/t252-carta-de-algunos-sacerdotes-del-distrito-de-america-del-sur-y-mexcio-con-motivo-de-la-llegada-de-mons-fellay-a-la-argentina

    French good translation:
    http://tradinews.blogspot.ie/2012/10/forum-non-possumus-lettre-de-pretres.html

    Google mess:

    "This is the work of evil in iniquity, He designed the misfortune and it begets a lie ... "Psalm VII.15

    We are a group of priests districts of South America and Mexico. With due respect to your bishop, for the common good and the good of your soul, please have the courage to apologize, vis-à-vis the bishops, priests and faithful of your mistakes in government the Brotherhood and resign to end this hell of deceit, lack of doctrinal clarity and lack of courage in the defense of Tradition.

    It is clear that you have no moral authority to lead the fight against modernism. How a bishop, guardian of the Faith, he can afford to minimize harmful errors of Vatican II? How the man who is the head of the Tradition can be called Pope Benedict XVI a man of "integrity" as he continues to teach heresies?

    And the disease is contagious: we have among us the priests who preach the "good side" of the Council, the need to "return" to the church ... They no longer speak of the Church of Christ, as opposed to the conciliar church, but they are as the same Church. never in 42 years we have lived in such a state of distrust, insecurity, espionage, fear of deportation or "punitive transfers."

    What was once a religious family became a Stalinist department, where we are afraid to name our Founder, to the point of having to protect anonymity. There is no more trust towards superiors or colleagues, most of us spend their time collecting information hidden using code names to survive the persecution unleashed by the simple fact of s' oppose the mess caused by fad contradict our venerable Archbishop Lefebvre.

    The message you bring [in Argentina] does not interest us. The main problem is that you think and work as a modernist, you act like a liberal, you contradict contradiction, lie lie, and this is evident from you "have decided to turn to the Pope" Pope "includes" and you think, in your own words that Christ speaks through his mouth! What filial fear we might have to you?

    How to restore lost confidence, if you make fun of our founder, if you laugh trust priests and faithful ... Confidence every day to drop. How long do we have to lie to them and tell them that all is well in the Brotherhood? We lost our credibility and strength in the fight against error. We do not know who is responsible, but certainly not the God of Truth.

    Have the courage and honesty of us to leave them alone, so as not to cause additional damage.

    Our Lady of Guadalupe Empress of America, pray for us!

    Long live Christ the King!
    O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
    Praised be Jesus ad Mary!

    "Is minic a gheibhean beal oscailt diog dunta"

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    SSPX priests in South America. Letter to Fellay: resign!
    « Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 05:49:48 PM »
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  • NOTE: I wrote Bishop Fellay's name with a + but it did not appear. Sorry.

    Matthew, could you please correct that? Thanks.
    O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
    Praised be Jesus ad Mary!

    "Is minic a gheibhean beal oscailt diog dunta"


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    SSPX priests in South America. Letter to Fellay: resign!
    « Reply #2 on: October 09, 2012, 07:26:28 PM »
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  • Great! Brave American Fathers!

    Bishop Fellay should resign.


    Lucca Back, South Korea.


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    « Reply #3 on: October 09, 2012, 08:28:55 PM »
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  •  :applause: Excellent! God Bless these SSPX priests.

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    « Reply #4 on: October 09, 2012, 11:55:33 PM »
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  • Wow..news travels fast around here.
    To live with the Saints in Heaven is all bliss and glory....To live with the saints on Earth is just another story!  (unknown)


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    « Reply #5 on: October 10, 2012, 12:04:44 AM »
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  • what do you think of this site?   sossaveoursspx.com/index.html    
    To live with the Saints in Heaven is all bliss and glory....To live with the saints on Earth is just another story!  (unknown)

    Offline John Grace

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    « Reply #6 on: October 10, 2012, 07:09:38 AM »
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  • Yes, it is time that Bishop Fellay resigned.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 10, 2012, 07:53:20 AM »
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  • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey
    what do you think of this site?   sossaveoursspx.com/index.html    


    I'm not crazy about the layout; never liked the type where you basically have to keep scrolling down and skimming to see what you might find.  I think truetrad.com is more organized.  However, looks like lots of interesting info.  Here is an article that caught my eye:

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        A DISCLAIMER AND ANNOUNCEMENT
               A Sad, sad, time, dear friends and faithful. A priest of the SSPX, with the blessing of his U. S District  superior, refuses  Holy Communion to  a writer who use the freedoms our fore-fathers earned through their " lives, their fortunes, their sacred honor"  to express his beliefs and opinions, and to share with other faithful Catholics timely news of the goings-on in the world of Tradition. Simply, it seems,  because the SSPX superior does not wish the faithful to be informed.Period. End of Story. What's going on with Father Chazal? None of your business. What's up with Fr. Pfeiffer? None of your business?  What's up with Fr. Basil  Meramo? Fr Damien Fox?  Fr. Patrick Girouard(Canada)?  the four German priests ? Fr.Gabriel Grosso( Argentina)?  Fr.  David Hewko? Fr.Eric Jacqmin( Belgium)? Fr. Michael Koller(France)? Fr. Juan Ceriani( Argentina)?Fr. Ernesto Cardoza( Brazil)?Fr Xavier Beauvais( France)? Dom Nataglia( Italiy)? Bishop Williamson? Fr. Jean de Morgon( France)?  Fr. Steven reiter?Fr. Juan Turco?(Argentina)?  Fr Joven Soliman( Phillipines)? The Capuchins of France? The Monastery of Santa Cruz in Brazil? In every single case, these brave priests are trying to warn the SSPX and the Superior that his playing with Rome is a mistake. And in every case they are shut up! The answer is the same-- none of your business! That way they can pressure the priests to buckle under or be expelled. Father leRoux told me personally in Auriesville that none of the three Bishops( Williamson, deGalaretta, or deMallerais) had been given the "grace of State" when the Holy Ghost was placed upon their shoulders and they became bishops-- only Bishop Fellay was!

         So then what--? When they are expelled? Then they lie and say "they were sede-vacantists!"  Fr. Rostand recently told the people that the "nine" of 1983 were expelled because of "sedevacantism"-- a total fabrication. Your editor was there in 1983! The "nine" were complaining of changes in the missal, they were against bringing in novus ordo priests , they were against the SSPX agreeing with novus ordo marriage annulments; they were against introducing liturgical reforms of John XXIII, they were against the expulsion of priests sanctified to Christ without arranging for their care and support. They were not promoting sede-vacantism.  

          Fr  Rostand, the appointed superior of the SSPX  U S District was in Ridgefield Sunday, September 16th. He said he would take questions from the parishioners. He said the Mass. The Pastor, Fr Goldady was hearing confessions until the communion. Fr. Rostand  said he would answer the many questions the parishioners have about the dealings with Rome; he also spoke of the great virtues of charity and love.  Fr Goldady left the confessional to help distribute communion-- and made it a point, in front of several hundred parishioners, to deny Holy Communion to the editor. Of course, Father Rostand later joked , during his conference that "I hear in America you have freedom of speech!"

          During the little conference, Fr Rostand talked of "some" of the steps from 2000 through 2012. He also took some questions, but was unable to answer any of them. He said Bp Fellay's comments in the CNS interview were taken out of context. But when asked if they contacted CNS and told them to correct the interview, he didn't know. This is the same Fr Rostand who had his attorney tell SOSSave OURSSPX that "you can't use the pictures of Archbishop Lefebvre!"

          He was asked  by a parishioner if there is a good communications between higher-ups and the priests. After much waffling, he finally admitted "No". When asked directly is there is good communications between the faithful and the SSPX (mgmt), after much waffling, he answered no, probably not. But this is the same Father Rostand who said to your editor, when I said, "Father, anything you find inaccurate or wrong ( on this website), I'll correct" all he could say was "just take it down".

           When asked directly by one of  the faithful whether Bishop Fellay, over a week ago stated to Seminarians in Econe that he (Bp Fellay) had been deceived by Rome( something covered by many major news sources), he stated "I don't know"-- then, after much waffling, he said "he may have said something like that."      

       How in the world, could a little web page( sossaveoursspx), which is merely a compilation and amalgamation of information that is freely available to anybody in the entire world, could be upsetting to the higher ups in the SSPX, is beyond me. The pastor, when he threatened to withhold Holy Communion, was asked by myself: "what lies or calumnies are on the SOSSAVEOURSSPX", and he said "I didn't know-- I don't have time to look at it". When I asked him , specifically, to tell me what is erroneous or incorrect (for I would immediately change it), he said he "hadn't read it"! I offered him to let me know of any errors or calumnies that he found-- he has notified me of not one!

         At the conference, almost every single question put to Father Rostand  was left unanswered. The dancing around the questions was legendary. The first retort on any of the quotes (which parishioners offered) of the Archbishop's was "when did he say that?"

       So what can a Catholic conclude? 1) Priests like Fr Goldade are scared out of their wits to oppose Fr.Rostand-- and they cannot think for themselves. It was stated during the conference many, many times--"if they ( the priests) don't like it here( in the SSPX) they can leave! This even pushes them to commit egregious public acts of injustice.   2)The SSPX leaders now think that the  Archbishop really didn't know what he believed.  One almost comes away  thinking "Gee,it's a good thing the Archbishop passed away, because these people believe he was always changing his tune". And now, we have this huge confusion.

         It is really quite simple. It appears Bishop Fellay and Father Rostand want to make the SSPX an organization that novus ordo (modernist) Catholics will want to join. They want to make of it a priestly society where Novus Ordo Bishops (Never ordained in the Catholic faith, many who don't believe the catholic faith), who are protestant and modernist in their thinking, will welcome into their diocese SSPX priests, and will send their candidates to ( hopefully), the new SSPX seminary in Virginia . To do this, they have to ditch the traditional baggage; they have to look to the modernists as if they are not that rigid in their thinking, and they even have to portray the Archbishop as flexible, and ever-changing--just like Ratzinger's notion of tradition. But at the same time, they want to keep the great traditional support base-- all the thousands of faithful who bought the churches, built the schools, supported the seminaries, sponsored the camps. And that is, in my opinion, why they allow the CNS interview  to go out which has Bp Fellay saying , basically, ' Vatican II is really okay--there's just some interpretations which are wrong', but when the traditionalists quote the very same words, the SSPX leaders cry "You mis-quote me out of context!!

             When a man is trying to woo two women at the same time, he has to keep his stories straight-- othewise one of them will get wind of something fishy. Same thing's going on here. They can't speak the truth, because either the trads will get upset, OR the Romans will get upset. And, in a few cases, there are different levels of people in each of those groups, who get upset for different reasons.

      Therefore, It becomes best to say nothing, or " I don't know ", or  "did you hear him say that" ( As Fr. Jenkins retorted when I quoted the Archbishop, or "when did he say that" as if whatever he said in the 1970's or 1980's were revised by what he said in the later years.  And now, of course, if you continue to quote the Archbishop, or repeat anything someone else says about the Archbishop, "WE WANT YOU TO SHUT UP!". Failing that, there is no freedom of Speech in the Society of St Pius X's concept of the Catholic faith, so you shall not receive Holy Communion.  Yes, it is true, open abortionists, open paediphiles, open sodomiotes, open child-abusers, can receive holy communion, can serve as priests, and can even be bishops, cardinals and popes in Bp Fellay's Church of the new Advent, the church he wants to re-join. But if you dare to give the news you shall not receive Holy Communion! Change Canon Law, Change the slabs given to Moses, the Eleventh Commandment is "Thou Shall Not print the News."

       This web site is not for those who do not want to read it--stay off is my recommendation. As I stated on  the very first page some three months ago, ( you can find this way down at the beginning of this page) SOSSaveOurSSPX will be taken down,when as as soon as the Management of the Society of St Pius X drops it's foolish plans to join Rome, restores it's priests and bishops to their rightful positions, and begins telling the faithful the whole truth of what they are doing with Rome. There's nobody on the world wide web that is being forced to access this page.To hit "enter" is totally voluntary. Those who access this page love their Catholic faith, and they love the Society of St Pius X. They respect greatly Achbishop Marcel Lefebvre, and they likewise respect deeply the bishops and priests, brothers, sisters, monks and faithful who have sacrificed for so many years, through so many trials, to keep our faith with purity. We don't want to see the faith adulterated with the falsehoods and heresies of the Rome of today. And we love and support our priests-- even when they are driven by their superiors to make mistakes. Pray for our priests! Cardinal Ratzinger has said the curtain is falling over Christian civilization.  The very people in Rome are working for that curtain to fall!  The Catholic Faith is the rock of that Christian Civilization. it is upon that rock of the FAITH, the FAITH expressed by St Peter, upon which the Christ promised He would build His Church. Christ's promise lives on today, and must live within each of us who professes that faith. It is, or it must be, the same faith that St Peter professed to Christ Himself. We can back down, and let the faith erode,and thousnds upon thousands of Catholic and christians be deceived into hell-- or we can sound the alarm, and help preserve the faith of Our Lord, the faith of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the faith of St Peter, St Pius and Marcel Lefebvre. And so we work. for the keeping of that faith-- and that's all we work for.  If any of our readers find anything calumniating, or erroneous, or false, please advice me, and I will remove it. It takes a long time to put these news articles together. I have no computer, I have no internet, I have no TV.  I am a little pebble in the ocean.  I must rely solely on free-access computers, and very, very little free time. It would be far better for the current management to get back to the principles of  Archbishop Lefebvre ,Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer and Pope Pius X, and stop dealing with these snakes in Rome, and they wouldn't have to always couch their words based on their audience. We pray for their priests , for our priests, driven to erroneous actions because of their fear of the management.  NOTE : A CALL FOR PHOTOS: Father Rostand has instructed his law firm to  claim ownership rights to all photos of Archbishop Lefebvre,, all priests of the SSPX,  and all buildings paid for by the people! They have embarked upon another foolish waste of time!. Any readers who have original photos , of all things traditional and Catholic, please send them along to me, include a short note, of course, letting us know where you took it, who/what it is, and permitting me to post it, if appropriate to the subject being discussed. Thank-you



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    « Reply #8 on: October 10, 2012, 10:50:30 AM »
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  • Quote from: JMacQ
    What was once a religious family became a Stalinist department, where we are afraid to name our Founder, to the point of having to protect anonymity.

    This is so undeniably true that it is frightening. Do we know how many priests were involved. Did they send the letter anonymously?

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    « Reply #9 on: October 10, 2012, 11:32:35 AM »
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  • The priests of the resistance I'm sure are protecting their identities because they have a Latin American version of Hitman Rostand ruling & ready to eliminate all voices of tradition.  

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    « Reply #10 on: October 10, 2012, 11:35:07 AM »
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  • Quote from: Zorayda
    The priests of the resistance I'm sure are protecting their identities because they have a Latin American version of Hitman Rostand ruling & ready to eliminate all voices of tradition.  

    The cockles are pulling out the wheat.


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    « Reply #11 on: October 10, 2012, 11:41:50 AM »
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  • Are there no names of priests?

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    « Reply #12 on: October 10, 2012, 11:41:57 AM »
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  • My friend from Columbia told me two weeks ago that a SSPX priest from Columbia who is really upset with Bishop Fellay is taking a year off. There's a lot going on that we don't know about but the resistance will not "fizzle" but will sizzle into a huge Argentinian FIRE!

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    « Reply #13 on: October 10, 2012, 02:24:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: JMacQ
    I was sent this link to a letter written by SSPX priests in Mexico and South America. They ask Bishop Fellay to resign before his incoming visit to Argentina. I do not read Spanish or French but Google translate gives a readable version.

    Considering that the Google translator's results looks often Greek to me, the letter still does seem to be incredible good. After reading the true Catholic sermons/comments of Bishop Williamson, and sermons of Fathers Chazal and Pfeiffer since months now, one is happy to learn that also the South- and Middle-American True-SSPX priests are fighting as bravely on their front for the very same cause.

    May God bless all traditional Catholic bishops, priests and clerics who for the love of God resist the betrayal of the Neo-SSPX. Deo gratias to all of you.

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    « Reply #14 on: October 10, 2012, 04:39:04 PM »
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  • It's starting to look like +Fellay jumped the gun and attempted to pull off a
    little coup against the principles of the Society a bit 'too early.'  Now he faces an
    international backlash against his little ruse.  









    Maybe the real message is if you come to South America and you DON'T resign first, before you come, you might just find this is your 'last trip' to South America -- or anywhere else!
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