Author Topic: SSPX preparing Priors for Unilateral deal with Rome (Read 30021 times)

Matthew · « **on:** February 21, 2016, 06:13:10 PM »

They just had a meeting with the Priors at the end of January. At this meeting, they were informed about what is in the works. The meeting was one direction, INFORMING the priors of what's coming, as opposed to asking for any input.

A deal with Rome IS still in the works. The official story -- the deception -- will be that Rome is just accepting us "as we are" unilaterally. Of course this is false, because it's a fact of history that the SSPX has already transformed (past tense) into something unrecognizable. Priests have been ejected or at least convinced to leave, a bishop has been kicked out, bookstores have been purged, the whole organization has been "re-branded", the Archbishop's works have been censored (even to the point of SUING close friends of the Archbishop who wanted to publish his works!)

Unilateral is from the Latin unus, a, um ("one") and latus, lateris ("side"). One-sided.

Long story short, it's TOO LATE for anything "unilateral" because the SSPX side has already been feverishly working over the past few years to make itself more palatable to Modernist Rome. And we're talking about actions that are past tense -- no speculation is involved.

Remember those chapel(s) -- I believe there was one in Michigan -- which have signs that don't say anything about SSPX, Traditional, or Latin Mass? That ties into this. The Personal Prelature will have to lose the "SSPX" identity, which will conveniently cut loose any remaining "baggage" of Archbishop Lefebvre (whatever they haven't managed to purge yet).

It's all over.

Apparently there wasn't any reaction or protest. (Which isn't too surprising. The X degree boiling water which will kill a frog is only 2 degrees warmer than last week's water -- which was "X - 2" degrees -- which wasn't hot enough to do damage. Classic frog boil.)

Naturally everyone who was A) able to see clearly and B) inclined to have a problem with the new orientation has already made their move over the past few years. The remaining priests are "compromised" from being silent for so long. They will be frog boiled the rest of the way until they end up on so many dinner plates.

Kyrie eleison!

Maria Regina · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2016, 06:34:30 PM »

Was any indication given as to how soon this union would take place?

Matthew · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2016, 06:44:11 PM »

Quote from: Maria Regina

Was any indication given as to how soon this union would take place?

They seem to be moving at a good clip. But that having been said, it is most likely a deal will be announced sometime during the "Year of Mercy" which ends Dec 8, 2016.

Each priest -- SSPX as well as independent "Friends of the Society" -- will be able to participate in the "deal", by signing a certain Profession of Faith.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2016, 06:49:21 PM »

The deal was done a long time ago. Everything is done in phases.

Why do they still close down Catholic Churches.

Let's pray that the Mass of all Time and moral theology teachings remains intact.

Let's pray that Priests that our Priests will remain pure and holy.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2016, 06:53:44 PM »

Does the Chapel in Michigan even have a sign being Catholic?

One way or another, we are back to the penal days.

Matthew · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2016, 07:00:38 PM »

Calling this impending agreement "unilateral" is very deceptive.

Say a group of Muslim terrorists took 20 people hostage. Everyone would be concerned with the fate of the hostages. Normally you'd have negotiations to try to get the hostages released, with the terrorists making various demands.

But say that the hostage situation dragged on for several weeks, with no progress being made.

Their demands were pretty severe: They wanted Texas to adopt Sharia Law.

Then all the sudden, they decided to just unilaterally let the hostages go.

But what if it turned out that Texas had passed several laws over the past few weeks bringing the state closer to Sharia law? What if they had forbidden pork, forbidden alcohol, forbidden women working, etc.?

How can you say the terrorists "unilaterally" decided to release the hostages, when the other side basically capitulated -- albeit secretly -- to all the things they knew would please the terrorists?

That's called BI-LATERAL or you might say "pretending to be unilateral, but with lots of secret concessions from one side".

If Texas openly capitulated, everyone would have a problem with them selling out our American way of life in favor of Muslim Sharia Law. But if they did it secretly, maybe some people wouldn't notice?

Now this is a pretty crazy example, I'll give you that. Who wouldn't notice something like Texas requiring its women to be at home, and wear burqas when they go out in public (escorted by a man, of course)?

But then again, reality is stranger than fiction. We have TONS of evidence that Bishop Fellay's neo-SSPX has made countless changes over the past few years to make itself different -- and more appealing -- to the drastically-different-than-itself Conciliar Rome it's trying to woo.

And yet some people don't see it! Maybe Texas could get away with secretly implementing Sharia Law too. Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

Maria Regina · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2016, 07:07:55 PM »

If clergy and laity under the SSPX will be required to sign a Profession of Faith, then that is a capitulation. In effect, they are being received as if they were Protestants.

Yet, we must recall recently that Lutherans at the Vatican were given Communion without Confession or any Profession of Faith.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2016, 07:21:47 PM »

There are Protestant ministers who converted to Catholicism. One is pastor with wife, children and grandchildren of the biggest parishes in the diocese.

Incredulous · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2016, 07:32:15 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Each priest -- SSPX as well as independent "Friends of the Society" -- will be able to participate in the "deal", by signing a certain Profession of Faith.

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This is good.

Then the battle-lines of the xSPX split will become more clear, as in the French Revolution.

You will have the modern day form of the non-juring SSPX priest who refuses to sign the "profession of newChurch faith".

You have to hand it to old Schmidbergy.
Sly as a masonic fox, he promoted "prelature", the same ruse used by Opus judei.

cathman7 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2016, 08:28:22 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

They just had a meeting with the Priors at the end of January. At this meeting, they were informed about what is in the works. The meeting was one direction, INFORMING the priors of what's coming, as opposed to asking for any input.

A deal with Rome IS still in the works. The official story -- the deception -- will be that Rome is just accepting us "as we are" unilaterally. Of course this is false, because it's a fact of history that the SSPX has already transformed (past tense) into something unrecognizable. Priests have been ejected or at least convinced to leave, a bishop has been kicked out, bookstores have been purged, the whole organization has been "re-branded", the Archbishop's works have been censored (even to the point of SUING close friends of the Archbishop who wanted to publish his works!)

Unilateral is from the Latin unus, a, um ("one") and latus, lateris ("side"). One-sided.

Long story short, it's TOO LATE for anything "unilateral" because the SSPX side has already been feverishly working over the past few years to make itself more palatable to Modernist Rome. And we're talking about actions that are past tense -- no speculation is involved.

Remember those chapel(s) -- I believe there was one in Michigan -- which have signs that don't say anything about SSPX, Traditional, or Latin Mass? That ties into this. The Personal Prelature will have to lose the "SSPX" identity, which will conveniently cut loose any remaining "baggage" of Archbishop Lefebvre (whatever they haven't managed to purge yet).

It's all over.

Apparently there wasn't any reaction or protest. (Which isn't too surprising. The X degree boiling water which will kill a frog is only 2 degrees warmer than last week's water -- which was "X - 2" degrees -- which wasn't hot enough to do damage. Classic frog boil.)

Naturally everyone who was A) able to see clearly and B) inclined to have a problem with the new orientation has already made their move over the past few years. The remaining priests are "compromised" from being silent for so long. They will be frog boiled the rest of the way until they end up on so many dinner plates.

Kyrie eleison!

I am not doubting the veracity of your story but where did you get your information from?

MaterDominici · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2016, 08:33:48 PM »

Quote from: obscurus

I am not doubting the veracity of your story but where did you get your information from?

The information about Bp Fellay meeting with the priors to say the recognition is imminent, there being no real dissent, and that the priests received that same information this past week all came from a Resistance priest. He said there would be something all priests would be required to sign.

cathman7 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2016, 08:37:45 PM »

Okay thank you. It makes sense. It is absolutely clever.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2016, 08:38:44 PM »

This isn't the first time something was posted here as coming from an anonymous priest about the same spill of the impending deal. These posts are actually starting to get old. They remind of those guys who declare the end of the world and give a specific date,then it doesn't happen, so they try for another round. If the year of mercy comes and goes and still no deal, nobody will remember this thread anyways.

cathman7 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2016, 08:41:44 PM »

Quote from: Centroamerica

This isn't the first time something was posted here as coming from an anonymous priest about the same spill of the impending deal. These posts are actually starting to get old. They remind of those guys who declare the end of the world and give a specific date,then it doesn't happen, so they try for another round. If the year of mercy comes and goes and still no deal, nobody will remember this thread anyways.

I guess the question is where did this Resistance priest get his information from?

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2016, 09:05:48 PM »

Quote from: Incredulous

You have to hand it to old Schmidbergy.
Sly as a masonic fox, he promoted "prelature", the same ruse used by Opus judei.
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