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SSPX new doctrine - proof of slide - Doctrinal Declaration
« on: June 19, 2015, 10:36:40 PM »
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  • Read this if you have time. It is very important to understand the Resistance.

    Courtesy of The Recusant.

    In February 2015, Bishop Fellay visited the SSPX seminary in the United Stated, St. Thomas
    Aquinas Seminary in Winona, Minnesota. Although, as it happens, Bishop Athanasius
    Schneider happened to be visiting around that same time, nominally Bishop Fellay was there
    to confer tonsures on the seminarians. One of the faithful present at the ceremonies had the
    opportunity to speak to Bishop Fellay face to face. The following brief account was recounted
    first-hand by the gentleman himself, a close personal acquaintance of this author and a
    man of unimpeachable integrity whose word is above suspicion and beyond question.

    Given the crowds, the short time available, and the very likely possibility of interruption, he
    asked the Superior General what he considered to be the one question that matters most:
    your Excellency, do you stand by the contents of your Doctrinal Declaration of April 2012,
    or do you consider that it contains anything wrong, anything which might need correcting?

    The question was simple and clear, the immediate answer equally so: There is nothing
    wrong with my Doctrinal Declaration; I stand by what it says.


    As noted above, this story cannot be kicked into touch with the usual accusations of
    “hearsay,” “rumour” and the like. Furthermore it comes as no great surprise anyway, being
    already confirmed by several different things heard from the mouth of Bishop Fellay across
    the globe over the past two years. It is therefore beyond serious dispute that Bishop Fellay
    stands by the content and substance of his Doctrinal Declaration. He regards it as wholly
    orthodox and free from any error, heterodoxy or diminution of the truth in any form - in
    short, an accurate reflection of his own doctrinal position and that of those with him.

    It need hardly be said that this is a very serious matter indeed concerning as it does Catholic
    doctrine and teaching, a matter which is of profound and lasting consequence to every priest
    of the SSPX and the faithful with them, whether they realise it or not.
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    Offline JPaul

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    SSPX new doctrine - proof of slide - Doctrinal Declaration
    « Reply #1 on: June 20, 2015, 02:14:40 PM »
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  • If the priests of the SSPX have not seen the departure from orthodoxy, and equivocation in the doctrinal declaration by now then, they are suspect as to their training and or principles. Men of principle and courage are hard to find these days.

    The proof of slide was there for all to see from 2012.


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    SSPX new doctrine - proof of slide - Doctrinal Declaration
    « Reply #2 on: June 20, 2015, 08:30:22 PM »
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  • Matt:
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    As noted above, this story cannot be kicked into touch with the usual accusations of
    “hearsay,” “rumour” and the like. Furthermore it comes as no great surprise anyway, being
    already confirmed by several different things heard from the mouth of Bishop Fellay across
    the globe over the past two years.


    I don't know what the phrase "kicked into touch" means.  But in the technical meaning of the word hearsay, I think what you heard can be called just that.   No matter how impeccable the credentials of your source, the fact is you heard it second hand.  I don't doubt that +Fellay said what you record.  However, it is nevertheless hearsay, and the bishop can easily deny having said any such thing... and, of course, he will.
    An example of what the SG can not deny is what he stated publicly at a conference in Kansas City last year.  It's on the record.  +F stated unequivocally that Pope Francis is a "genuine modernist."  He had no recourse but to state scarcely a month later that he did not mean that Pope Francis is really a modernist.  No one really called him to account.  +F is obviously a weasel.  But you need more than hearsay to make it stick.