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Offline Mr G

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SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
« on: November 18, 2019, 02:26:30 PM »
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  • https://smac.edu/sites/sspx/files/media/bulletin_11_17_2019.pdf

    Has anyone ever seen a notice like this one? It seems like they are making giving Sunday donations more complicated than necessary. Why not just assume the best, that the family who did not give is going or has made a donation at another time, such as in the mail or in person to he priests, etc. 

     AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERINGS AND TUITION PAYMENTS 

     With the interest in automated payments (donations and tuition) and recognizing that many individuals operate without cash or checks, we are expanding the automated system for making Sunday offerings, tuition payments and other donations.  Remember, it is one of the six precepts of the Church to support the needs of the Church.  This precept extends to anyone who has some means to offer, including young people who begin working, and not just families and the retired.  It is good to even form this habit in our children when they get some money.  The goal of increasing the automated payment options is to both make it easier for the faithful and to reduce costs by streamlining the accounting process.  

     Please remember that the Church has long asked for the faithful to make their offering at the moment of the Offertory to show that they are uniting their sacrifice with the Sacrifice of the Mass. Making our offering at this moment in the Mass truly helps Catholics to have the right intentions when fulfilling this precept of the Church.  It is also for the edification of our neighbor that we make this offering publicly, so that others are encouraged by our generosity to give to the support of the Church and the spread of the Gospel. Not wanting to lose this symbolism and edification for those making automated payments, we will offer you a slip of paper to fold like a check and drop in the collection basket which states that you are making automated payments.  

     The enclosed flyer outlines options for donations and other payments in more detail, provides an authorization form, and presents an example of the slip of paper that will be available providing a way to unite your automated offerings with  the Mass. This information and form are also available online at www.smac.edu/ACH. If you have questions, contact accounting at  437-2471 x110 or accounting@smac.edu.


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #1 on: November 18, 2019, 03:29:30 PM »
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  • Not wanting to lose this symbolism and edification for those making automated payments, we will offer you a slip of paper to fold like a check and drop in the collection basket which states that you are making automated payments.

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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #2 on: November 18, 2019, 03:33:11 PM »
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  • This is the dumbest thing I've read in a while. 

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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #3 on: November 18, 2019, 03:37:19 PM »
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  • I have seem similar at indult. 

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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #4 on: November 18, 2019, 05:29:25 PM »
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  • This is the dumbest thing i've heard in a while. Who cares what your neighbor thinks. I'm at Mass for Our Lord. Its between me and GOD whether I give to the church or not.


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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #5 on: November 18, 2019, 05:45:11 PM »
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  • GottA keep that money flowing in. The Mercedes Benz fund,er um stained glass restoration (ahem cough cough) obviously is running low ;) :facepalm:
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #6 on: November 18, 2019, 05:52:55 PM »
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  • This is the dumbest thing i've heard in a while. Who cares what your neighbor thinks. I'm at Mass for Our Lord. Its between me and GOD whether I give to the church or not.
    It is not simply between you and God whether or not you obey the Commandment of the Church to support the Church.  Violating any commandment affects all of us.  In any case, I understand that the priest desires that you not cause scandal to your neighbor by giving the appearance that you are not supporting the Church.

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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #7 on: November 19, 2019, 11:18:40 PM »
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  • This could have been done a long time ago.  It is being done now because it will not shock anyone now and no one dares complain or ask questions or even comment for fear of being looked like a Resistor.   :facepalm: :sleep:


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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #8 on: November 20, 2019, 04:50:41 AM »
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  • This could have been done a long time ago.  It is being done now because it will not shock anyone now and no one dares complain or ask questions or even comment for fear of being looked like a Resistor.   :facepalm: :sleep:
    This is true.  When I was still mired in the Novus Ordo in the early 2000s, I saw bulletin announcements in several parishes asking people to authorize automatic withdrawals from their checking accounts.  The bulletin told people to still throw their empty envelop into the collection basket.

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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #9 on: November 20, 2019, 05:21:07 AM »
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  • It is not simply between you and God whether or not you obey the Commandment of the Church to support the Church.  Violating any commandment affects all of us.  In any case, I understand that the priest desires that you not cause scandal to your neighbor by giving the appearance that you are not supporting the Church.

    People have to avoid being judgmental, though, also.  Especially AFTER the SSPX implemented the electronic contribution, there should be no "scandal" ... since it's possible/likely that any given person is giving that way.  Besides that, it's not anyone's business what or how someone contributes ... or whether they even can contribute.  I know of some people who give bigger lump contributions once a month rather than putting something in every week ... since it works better for their budget that way.  Other people might be giving anonymously or through different channels.  People stop having to act like judgmental little babies and being "scandalized" by every darn thing they see or think they see.  What's happening here is more judgmentalism than "scandal" in the strict sense of the word.

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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #10 on: November 20, 2019, 05:24:12 AM »
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  • It is not simply between you and God whether or not you obey the Commandment of the Church to support the Church.  Violating any commandment affects all of us.  In any case, I understand that the priest desires that you not cause scandal to your neighbor by giving the appearance that you are not supporting the Church.

    YOU, however, are not in any position to judge whether any given person is violating said commandment.  People need to stop making assumptions about who's committing what sin.  This isn't about actual "scandal" but about people looking for reasons to look down their nose at others ... without even having all the facts.  And the stupidity of this is compounded, since if people are not giving after the implementation of the electronic contribution, then it's possible/likely that they are giving that way and the fake envelope thing is just stupid.


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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #11 on: November 20, 2019, 06:09:56 AM »
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  • YOU, however, are not in any position to judge whether any given person is violating said commandment.  People need to stop making assumptions about who's committing what sin.  This isn't about actual "scandal" but about people looking for reasons to look down their nose at others ... without even having all the facts.  And the stupidity of this is compounded, since if people are not giving after the implementation of the electronic contribution, then it's possible/likely that they are giving that way and the fake envelope thing is just stupid.
    I did not make any judgment in this case.  Merely that the statement that whether one obeys the commandment of the Church to provide support is not simply a personal matter between an individual and God.  No one has the right to refuse to support the Church.  How that support is provided is another matter altogether.

    Perhaps when it comes to judging, you should look in the mirror on occasion.

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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #12 on: November 20, 2019, 07:29:47 AM »
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  • GottA keep that money flowing in. The Mercedes Benz fund,er um stained glass restoration (ahem cough cough) obviously is running low ;) :facepalm:
    And dont forget money is required to fund the Rome-Sellout Team of Fellay, Pfluger and Nely.

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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #13 on: November 20, 2019, 04:17:37 PM »
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  • Put a note in envelope to address girls and women needing to dress with modest a dress or skirt. And wear a hat or mantilla. 
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    Re: SSPX New AUTOMATED SUNDAY OFFERING
    « Reply #14 on: November 28, 2019, 12:21:37 PM »
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  • TKGS, it reminded me of the Herd Mentality, Everyone in Mass should be paying attention to whats going on up on the altar not worrying what their neighbor is doing.