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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: SSPX Morphing: Perpetual Engagements as Seminarians?
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2019, 03:00:52 PM »
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members of the FSSP and ICRSS are 'definitively incorporated' into their institutes, before they are advanced to Major Orders. The same goes for other groups, like Sulpicians, Oratorians, and others without vows like Glenmary, Maryknoll, etc.


Ha ha.  Ok then the neo-sspx's changes are meant to align their policies with potential "merger and acquisition" partners, after they make a deal with rome.  Gotta make the transition as smooth as possible. 
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Offline Matthew

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Re: SSPX Morphing: Perpetual Engagements as Seminarians?
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2019, 03:03:02 PM »
Here's my point.

Bp. Zendejas (then- Fr. Zendejas) was an SSPX priest for many years. He was in major orders, and was actually with the organization since the late 80's. 

He left the SSPX because of the new orientation. He was justified in doing so. Just like hundreds of priests left the obedience of their local bishops, etc. after Vatican II.

The point of this thread, is that the SSPX is trying to keep its members who might be tempted by conscience to leave. We're not saying it's not normally a good thing to have commitments, engagements, incardination, etc.

We're just calling out this latest nefarious behavior of the SSPX for what it is.
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Re: SSPX Morphing: Perpetual Engagements as Seminarians?
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2019, 03:56:32 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 08, 2019, 03:00:52 PM

Ha ha.  Ok then the neo-sspx's changes are meant to align their policies with potential "merger and acquisition" partners, after they make a deal with rome.  Gotta make the transition as smooth as possible.

Bingo #2:

Obediens has explained “why” they are doing it (ie., the plausible excuse for the correction of a custom which never bothered them before);

Pax has explained the ulterior motive;

Matthew has explained the dramatic change in (here it comes again) PRAXIS.
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Offline homeschoolmom

Re: SSPX Morphing: Perpetual Engagements as Seminarians?
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2019, 04:06:20 PM »

I stand corrected too on thinking perpetual engagements normally take more time. Big picture remains the same. Especially if all the other captured trad organizations are doing it. 

I am now curious about why the SSPX did not do this before. Their reasons for not doing it before could highlight the change in why they are now. 
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Re: SSPX Morphing: Perpetual Engagements as Seminarians?
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2019, 04:14:43 PM »
Quote from: homeschoolmom on May 08, 2019, 04:06:20 PM
I am now curious about why the SSPX did not do this before. Their reasons for not doing it before could highlight the change in why they are now.

Bingo #3:

(Rhetorical question): Was the matter of perpetual engagements discussed in the SSPX statutes?
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