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SSPX morphing into Jonestown
« on: February 22, 2021, 02:52:09 PM »
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  • In the following re-post of the SSPX's current ναccιnє policy below, we can see that +ABL's international priestly society has not only been hijacked and morphed into a cult.  But the deterioration continues.

    It's a dєαdlу cult now attempting to destroy it's members.  Not unlike Jonestown.

    Think not?  When Kansas's Department of Health and their CDC contingent show-up at St. Mary's, will they not be welcomed?



    Sean Johnson posted on 2-22-2021 at 05:08:49 PM »

    At my SSPX chapel, we just heard from the pulpit today that it is morally acceptable to use abortive ναccιnєs, if there is a proportionate reason (reference to the refuted Fr. Selegny article).

    While I have given up posting during Lent (Sunday are exempt), I will be using some of that recovered time to write a comprehensive refutation of the SSPX articles, the 2005 Vatican doc, and add many considerations the SSPX position leaves out of consideration.

    I do acknowledge the complexity of the matter, the division between authorities on the matter, and the possibility I could be wrong.

    That said, it is clear to me that had Catholics held strong against the pointless abortive MMR ναccιnє 20 years ago, we would not today be debating the morality of the abortive CÖVÌD19 “ναccιnє.”

    I feel a strong compulsion to lay out the complete argument against the moral permissibility of using abortive ναccιnєs, so I’m going to put it out there, and then, as always, if the other side defeats my arguments, I will be obliged to amend my position (as any honest man would do).

    Look for it shortly before Holy Week.


    For those too young to recall the Jim Jones cult of the 1970's, it too had their members take a toxic "Cool Aide" elixir


                                                                                   Jonestown cult in Guayana





                             Charismatic cult leader, Jim Jones


                                                     Jone's unquestioning faithful
                                                                                
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #1 on: February 22, 2021, 03:13:54 PM »
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  • It's a dєαdlу cult now attempting to destroy it's members.  


                                                                                                                                                                          
    It's a dєαdlу cult now attempting to destroy it's members.

    This is what evil tends toward- MORE AND MORE, GREATER AND GREATER EVIL.

    The cultish way has spread to the so called Resistance groups in diverse ways also.  
    One example only is Boston, Kentucky.


    "And Jesus answering, said to them: Take heed that no man seduce you:"
     [Matthew 24:4]

    "For many will come in my name saying, I am Christ: and they will seduce many."
     [Matthew 24:5]

    "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall seduce many."
     [Matthew 24:11]

    "For there will rise up false Christs and false prophets, and they shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce (if it were possible) even the elect."
     [Mark 13:22]

    "For they that are such, serve not Christ our Lord, but their own belly; and by pleasing speeches and good words, seduce the hearts of the innocent."
     [Romans 16:18]














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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #2 on: February 22, 2021, 03:24:08 PM »
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  • If you leave the path of truth -- following the truth WHEREVER it leads, even to smaller chapels, less frequent Mass, less socialization opportunities for your wife, less business contacts for the husband -- then don't be surprised if you fall for every scam in the book. It is basically a just punishment for spurning the truth.

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    Furthermore, I consider that Vatican II must be destroyed.

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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #3 on: February 22, 2021, 04:31:01 PM »
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  • But what about Father Robinson?  Before the lσcкdσωns , he was fighting against mandated ναccιnєs for homeschoolers.  

    To live with the Saints in Heaven is all bliss and glory....To live with the saints on Earth is just another story!  (unknown)

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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #4 on: February 22, 2021, 04:31:42 PM »
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  • They get money for promoting the poison.  
    They will take the silver and betray Jesus.   
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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #6 on: February 22, 2021, 04:53:18 PM »
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  • But what about Father Robinson?  Before the lσcкdσωns , he was fighting against mandated ναccιnєs for homeschoolers.  
    You are right!

    He represents the SSPX’s “middle old guard” that doesn’t kiss-up to Fr. Le Roux’s “3-D’s” of priestly behavior.  

    With “Delicacy” meaning “ Shut-up & don’t ask any questions”

    As I understand it, Father Robinson adheres to his May 2020 sermon, that the ναccιnє’s fetal tissue represents sorcery and messenger RNA is dєαdlу.

    :incense:
    Viva Cristo Rey Father!
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #7 on: February 22, 2021, 04:54:26 PM »
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  • Bill Gates Blasted as "ναccιnє Criminal" in Italian Parliament - The New American
    https://thenewamerican.com/bill-gates-blasted-as-ναccιnє-criminal-in-italian-parliament/
    In particular, MP Cunial slammed Gates-funded ναccιnєschemes that she said had "sterilized millions of women in African" and paralyzed about 500,000 children in India.
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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #8 on: February 22, 2021, 05:15:16 PM »
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  • I hope no one puts a bounty on his head.  :popcorn:

    Did you ever see what the Italians did to Mussolini and his lady friend?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #9 on: February 22, 2021, 05:47:12 PM »
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  • Patience is a conquering virtue. The learned say that, if it not desert you, It vanquishes what force can never reach; Why answer back at every angry speech? No, learn forbearance or, I'll tell you what, You will be taught it, whether you will or not.
    -Geoffrey Chaucer

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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #10 on: February 28, 2021, 05:23:32 PM »
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  • A letter from the Canada district superior was just posted in the neosspx chapel I attend. Thankfully some faithful apart from the Resistance mole that I am recognize that the neosspx is wrong!on this matter.
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster


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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #11 on: February 28, 2021, 06:13:02 PM »
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  • Comparing the SSPX saying its not inherently sinful to take the ναccιnє to a Jonestown cult that actively encouraged people to commit ѕυιcιdє is a massive stretch.

    I don't think I believe the ναccιnє is OK to take, even if I was convinced it was theoretically acceptable I would still have enough good sense to not take it.  Is the SSPX really "encouraging" taking this ναccιnє?

    You have to distinguish, at the least, between that, and just an allowance that reception would be theoretically not sinful. 

    And again, I'm not condoning their position.  I'm just saying be fair

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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #12 on: February 28, 2021, 07:28:46 PM »
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  • Comparing the SSPX saying its not inherently sinful to take the ναccιnє to a Jonestown cult that actively encouraged people to commit ѕυιcιdє is a massive stretch.

    I don't think I believe the ναccιnє is OK to take, even if I was convinced it was theoretically acceptable I would still have enough good sense to not take it.  Is the SSPX really "encouraging" taking this ναccιnє?

    You have to distinguish, at the least, between that, and just an allowance that reception would be theoretically not sinful.

    And again, I'm not condoning their position.  I'm just saying be fair


    In Jones town, 100% of the "faithful" who drank cyanide-laced Kool Aide died.   But spiritually, they were dead already.

    In the SSPX, their faithful are hopefully spiritually alive, but those who willingly take the ναccιnє, become spiritually dead.
    And their physically death risk shoots off the charts.

    Is it a mortal sin to freely accept, a bloodstream injection of fetal tissue from murdered babies ?   Yes.


    The SSPX can be held responsible for the sins committed by others in the following ways:


    1. By counsel from the pulpit  (“It's morally okay to take the ναccιnє”)

    2. By command (“It is your duty of state to accept the ναccιnє ”)

    3. By consent (“I understand you needed to comply to get ναccιnαted")

    5. By praise or flattery (“Good you went ahead and got ναccιnαted”)

    6. By concealment (“Don't worry… no one needs to know you were vaxxed.”)

    7. By partaking (“I'll help you make a vaccination appointment.”)

    8. By silence (“I won't discourage him from taking the ναccιnє.”)

    9. By defense of the sinful action (“He had to get vaxxed to save his job.”)


    Consider that the death counts from the global genocide vaccination plan will make Jones town look like a demonic lab experiment.





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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #13 on: February 28, 2021, 07:42:20 PM »
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  • "In His wisdom," says St. Gregory, "almighty God preferred rather to bring good out of evil than never allow evil to occur."

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    Re: SSPX morphing into Jonestown
    « Reply #14 on: February 28, 2021, 07:55:39 PM »
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  • Oh, the Italians!  


    No needa to a "Blasto" or "Slama" him.





    When a simple hanging will do.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


     

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