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Offline Matthew

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SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
« on: November 28, 2017, 02:53:19 PM »
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    • Wow.

    The Prior, Fr. Andrew Cranshaw, says that despite the Pope being rightly accused of 7 different heresies by prominent theologians, we need to stop and smell the roses! (Page 3)

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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #1 on: November 28, 2017, 03:08:19 PM »
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    • That's just scary. Why would Francis give a blessing to an SSPX mission?

    Have any of the other conciliar popes done that? I can't imagine that they ever have. 
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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #2 on: November 28, 2017, 03:13:35 PM »
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    • He approves of the mission of Martin Luther, so why not the SSPX?

    Any SSPX priest that thinks this is "good news", is an idiot.
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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #3 on: November 28, 2017, 03:37:06 PM »
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    • It's part of Bishop Fellay and pope Francis collaboration to plan for the prelature. Don't you know the " pope  
    has only the best interests for the SSPX".  :'(
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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #4 on: November 28, 2017, 03:46:42 PM »
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    • I wonder what "through the mediation of Fr. Nely..." means?  Did Fr. Nely go through the requisite channels and request the blessing or did Rome approach him first?

    hmmm...
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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #5 on: November 28, 2017, 04:16:03 PM »
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    • If the sspx had made a deal with Benedict XVI, I could understand the emotional reasons for letting yourself be tricked.  He "seemed" traditional; played the good part.  There were still many, many red flags, but at least I could understand the crime.

    With Francis, it's all red flags.  There's not ONE positive aspect to any deal whatsoever.  He's a spiritual, theological, moral and religious trainwreck.  If the sspx connects their train to Francis' locomotive, I don't see how God will protect them.  So many people are going to lose their souls because of new-rome's spiritual vacuum.
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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #6 on: November 28, 2017, 05:14:42 PM »
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    • This doesn't have Pope Francis' signature on it, and like the vast majority of these standard-issue Papal Blessing certificates, he probably knew nothing about it, personally. It's issued and signed (rubber-stamped most likely) by the Apostolic Almoner, c/o the Office of Papal Charities in Vatican City. The Nun who filled it out, probably didn't even know it was for an SSPX chapel. Anyone can request a papal blessing for one of these reasons: 

    http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/institutions_connected/elem_apost/docuмents/rc_elemosineria_doc_20130218_benedizioni_en.html
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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #7 on: November 28, 2017, 09:43:24 PM »
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    • The SSPX news announcement says:

       "Through the mediation of our Bishop Fellay's second assistant, Fr. Nely, our mission received a 
        Papal blessing from pope Francis in person".

    But why did Menzingen bring Vanuatu to the Destroyer pope's attention ?

    Was the place chosen because its remote and obscure enough to be a beta test site for the prelaturized SSPX?

    This is the pro-Conciliar theologian, Father Paul Robinson's turf.

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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #8 on: November 29, 2017, 01:56:31 AM »
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    • This is the text from the fourth link in the OP:
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    The Mass works miracles: A tribute to late Fr. Michael Anderson


        Fr. Michael Anderson was a priest of the Wellington diocese who only celebrated the Tridentine Mass for the last 25 years of his life. He collaborated closely with the priests of the SSPX for many years and was greatly esteemed and loved by many faithful Catholics throughout New Zealand. He passed to his eternal reward at the Home of Compassion, Upper Hutt on 25th July, 2017.
    A Gregorian [series] of Masses for his eternal rest will be celebrated throughout the month of December by Fr. Bochkoltz, SSPX. Upon receiving news of Fr. Michael Anderson's death, Fr. Ruben Gentili, former prior of St Anthony's church, Wanganui, wrote the following words of remembrance:

       I remember one summer evening almost 30 years ago, when our Wanganui Priory was still in Campbell Street; during the celebration of Mass I noticed a mature "couple" I had never seen before. They were at the pews, devoutedly hearing Mass. Once Mass was over, and the vestments were into the drawers, I closed the Church for the day and went back to the house. A few minutes later, someone knocked at the priory door.  lt was this mature "couple," who wanted to talk to the prior. I let them in and prepared some coffee, once the silver-haired gentleman introduced himself ás Fr. Michael Anderson, a Parish priest from Lower Hutt. The lady next to him was Judith, his cousin, as well as faithful and zealous house keeper.

        Due to his very interesting conversation (he would not  stop talking...) I realised that he was a very conservative-minded priest, who was not just suffering at the hands of his Ordinary, Cardinal Williams, but was actually being persecuted by him, due to Fr. Anderson's attachment to the Church's traditional ways. Father despised the new Mass and the Modernist changes in the Church. Our fascinating conversation went on for about two hours. Finally, Father said it was time for them to head back to Lower Hutt. Having walked my visitors to their car, I did not let him start the engine before asking Father whether he was actually celebrating the Traditional Mass. Father gave me a negative answer and added that, as a Parish priest, he had to daily celebrate Mass for his faithful, and that daily Mass had to be the currently Rome-approved Mass -- The new Mass. - I retorted: 'Look Father - TRY AND TRY HARD to celebrate the Traditional Mass. Celebrate it as  many times as possible whenever you can. Even if you have to binate, or celebrate it "in hiding." Please, DO CELEBRATE THE TRADITIONAL MASS, as it works miracles by itself ...  Father repl¡ed by moving his hand to and fro as  if reluctantly saying "no": -l don't think it will be possible, Father. I don't think it will be possible. I am a Parish Priest... And the car drove off.

        A couple of months later someone told me that that Lower Hutt Parish priest, Fr. Anderson, who had visited me in Wanganui, had fallen seriously ill. So much so, that as Father had to remain at home and bed ridden for several months, the Cardinal gave him sickness leave of absence until he would be well enough to resume his Position at the Parish.

        Now, finally, away from malicious pry¡ng eyes and in the safety of his own Private home, this God-sent occasion gave Father the opportunity of coming back to the celebration of Mass at a small makeshift altar in his living room - according to the Traditional Roman Rite as it had been taught to him back in his Seminary years in Rome, where, as a very young cleric, he was made a priest back in 1954 by Pietro Cardinal Fumasoni Biondi. So, finally, Fr. Anderson had come back to his beloved Traditional Mass of his youth!

        Day after day, then, Father's truly Roman heart would deeply relish the devout celebration of that Holy Mass of his youth. As the Cardinal had heard of Father's slow recovery, he was expecting him to resume his Parish assignment one day or another. lnstead, at his desk arrived a letter from Fr. Anderson that caught him off guard: Father was officially notifying his Ordinary thereby that he was quitting his Position as Parish Priest... His age, many years of service and recent ¡llnesses were the justifying reasons for such a choice. Though not in the letter, perhaps - though, most undoubtedly - there was yet another reason: Father had come across "an Old Love" - and that "Old Love" of his - the Roman Moss of his youth -- truly snatched for good Father's genuinely Priestly soul. From then onwards, not only would Father Anderson daily celebrate the Traditional Roman Mass but he would turn around his Lower Hutt home and make it a "Mass Centre." Evidently, the Traditional Mass had worked miracles by itself in Fr. Anderson's life!

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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #9 on: November 29, 2017, 05:13:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: obediens on November 28, 2017, 05:14:42 PM
    This doesn't have Pope Francis' signature on it, and like the vast majority of these standard-issue Papal Blessing certificates, he probably knew nothing about it, personally. It's issued and signed (rubber-stamped most likely) by the Apostolic Almoner, c/o the Office of Papal Charities in Vatican City. The Nun who filled it out, probably didn't even know it was for an SSPX chapel. Anyone can request a papal blessing for one of these reasons:

    http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/institutions_connected/elem_apost/docuмents/rc_elemosineria_doc_20130218_benedizioni_en.html
    Exactly. This means nothing. I remember Fr. Paul Wickens' chapel in NJ had one of these blessings. 
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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #10 on: December 04, 2017, 08:57:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on November 28, 2017, 03:08:19 PM
    That's just scary. Why would Francis give a blessing to an SSPX mission?

    Have any of the other conciliar popes done that? I can't imagine that they ever have.
    There is a first time for everything. 
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    Re: SSPX Mission receives personal blessing from Pope Francis
    « Reply #11 on: December 04, 2017, 08:58:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on November 28, 2017, 09:43:24 PM



    The SSPX news announcement says:

      "Through the mediation of our Bishop Fellay's second assistant, Fr. Nely, our mission received a
       Papal blessing from pope Francis in person".

    But why did Menzingen bring Vanuatu to the Destroyer pope's attention ?

    Was the place chosen because its remote and obscure enough to be a beta test site for the prelaturized SSPX?

    This is the pro-Conciliar theologian, Father Paul Robinson's turf.
    Could it really be that Pope Francis is really a friend to Catholic tradition?
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