Author Topic: SSPX list Diocese of new Ordinands is from (Read 1773 times)

Binechi · « **on:** June 11, 2016, 02:46:36 PM »

SSPX Lists diocese each of the new ordinands is from / representing

http://stas.org/en/news-events/news/7-new-priests-9-new-deacons-16397

It appears they are so determined to show that these new priests are part of the diocese, as if they will be or are already subject to the bishop of that diocese. They are so desperate to be a part of the new religion of Jorge Bergoglio - they keep finding ways to show there devotion to the false religion.

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** June 11, 2016, 02:51:46 PM »

No offense, but this is very old news here on CathInfo. (I'm referring to the list of ordinands giving the diocese that each ordinand is from)

From May 7th:
http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/More-proof-of-imminent-SSPX-Rome-deal

We've known about this for quite a while.

Binechi · « **Reply #2 on:** June 11, 2016, 03:13:39 PM »

OK, Thanks ,,,

The question for me is , What Mass do they say .. Were they trained in both the NO and the TLM. or is this where the Indult comes into play ?

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2016, 03:17:58 PM »

Quote from: Binechi

OK, Thanks ,,,

The question for me is , What Mass do they say .. Were they trained in both the NO and the TLM. or is this where the Indult comes into play ?

I doubt they were actually trained to say the Novus Ordo Missae.

However, they *were* trained to not be horrified of the Novus Ordo, Vatican II, the wolves that have taken over the Vatican, etc.

And that is huge. Because it means that eventually they WILL offer a token Novus Ordo Mass here or there, just like the FSSP.

Everything in stages. All in good time.

You can't become a huge sinner until you FIRST lose the horror of sin. Then you graduate to venial sins, then habitual venial sins, then mortal sin, then more serious mortal sins, then a life of habitual mortal sin.

But the old SSPX of Archbishop Lefebvre is dead and gone -- living on only in the Resistance, which has a different name (trademarks, copyrights and all that).

TKGS · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2016, 05:30:42 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

I doubt they were actually trained to say the Novus Ordo Missae.

There's actual training for the Novus Ordo? Who'd a thought it!!

I figured Conciliar priests were just told to enjoy themselves since they are, after all, the center of attention.

It can't be much harder than being an altar server. At my old Novus Ordo parish it took the nun a whole 25 minutes to completely train the new girls.

Binechi · « **Reply #5 on:** June 11, 2016, 06:48:23 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: Binechi
OK, Thanks ,,,

The question for me is , What Mass do they say .. Were they trained in both the NO and the TLM. or is this where the Indult comes into play ?

I doubt they were actually trained to say the Novus Ordo Missae.

However, they *were* trained to not be horrified of the Novus Ordo, Vatican II, the wolves that have taken over the Vatican, etc.

And that is huge. Because it means that eventually they WILL offer a token Novus Ordo Mass here or there, just like the FSSP.

Everything in stages. All in good time.

You can't become a huge sinner until you FIRST lose the horror of sin. Then you graduate to venial sins, then habitual venial sins, then mortal sin, then more serious mortal sins, then a life of habitual mortal sin.

But the old SSPX of Archbishop Lefebvre is dead and gone -- living on only in the Resistance, which has a different name (trademarks, copyrights and all that).

Matthew ,,
I am a little confused about this situation.....
Are these young men chosen by the Dioceses to attend the SSPX semenaries and then returned, upon completion ?
Upon completion Are they not validly ordained Priests, operating in the N O Churches
Or is it that they do not return to their Diocses but operate in the SSPX system ?
Who is doing the Consecration if validly ordained ?

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** June 11, 2016, 07:03:44 PM »

Quote from: Binechi

Matthew ,,
I am a little confused about this situation.....
Are these young men chosen by the Dioceses to attend the SSPX semenaries and then returned, upon completion ?
Upon completion Are they not validly ordained Priests, operating in the N O Churches
Or is it that they do not return to their Diocses but operate in the SSPX system ?
Who is doing the Consecration if validly ordained ?

No, these young men are from various SSPX chapels.

But by listing the diocese that each ordinand is from, the SSPX is forcefully suggesting a different reality: that various dioceses are sending young men to the SSPX for their priestly formation, after which time they will be ordained (with the approval of Rome) and sent back to their dioceses of origin to do their priestly ministries.

That is NOT what is going to happen, unless the SSPX consummates their deal with Rome, so it's a bit misleading don't you think?

The ordinations this year were done by Bp. De Galarreta, so there is no question of validity this year.

But the SSPX clearly wants to look like they are part of the "Conciliar Church" system, and that is the problem.

Wessex · « **Reply #7 on:** June 12, 2016, 01:51:14 AM »

Creeping integration.

Having them linked to dioceses would presumably infuriate those families hostile to the very idea. But then the softening up process may be working. What is not in doubt is manipulation at management level.