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SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
« on: January 03, 2022, 07:22:34 PM »
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  • l St Dominic’s College PO Box 7123
    Whanganui 4500 New Zealand
    +64 6-281 3976
    i.palko@sspx.org.nz

    28 December 2021

    Dear Parents

    Early this year, we learned of the imminent transfer of our long-time principal and prior, Fr François Laisney, to an assignment in France as soon as his replacement, Fr Pierre Chrissement, would arrive. Due to borders, visas, and other exigencies, Fr Laisney remained and has managed the school and parish in very difficult circuмstances. A significant part of his priestly life has involved Whanganui, and we owe a deep debt of gratitude as he moves on to his new assignment in January.

    To facilitate that, Fr Daniel Themann, our District Superior, has decided that the role of Pastor/Prior will be separated from that of Principal of the school. This is frequently done in our schools in the United States and elsewhere, such as Manila and Tynong, so it is not a unique system. As I am the only priest who is a registered teacher, I will be taking up this second role as Acting Principal, at first under Fr Laisney while we transition things, and then under Fr McNamara, who will take up the role of prior/pastor until Fr Chrissement arrives, possibly mid-year 2022. We are also hoping to have another Australian priest, Fr Todd Stephens, join us as soon as possible, and he would take up my present role as Dean of the Boys’ School, with an aim towards following the same teacher registration programme I did and being registered as a teacher in New Zealand.

    Seeing how much effort and work Fr Laisney constantly offers, is humbling, so both Fr McNamara and I will depend on your assistance and support in trying to fill his shoes.

    Given the uncertainty that this introduces, Fr Themann and I thought it appropriate that I write and detail for you what is planned for the next year, and explain a bit of why we plan this.

    Planning for the 2022 Academic Year
    This past year has ended with some tumult especially with vaccination mandates for educational staff. Divisions over choices made there have shown unfortunate fissures in the parish and school, including a great deal of assumptions. The priests have emphasised the fraternal Charity needed to stay unified in our supernatural goal. We recognise that faithful will take different prudential decisions on the vaccines or the education of their children, but I will echo that same point Fr Laisney has made many times: we must avoid making impassioned, rash statements and judgements about the prudential decisions others take. We must avoid saying or suggesting by words or actions that others are guilty of sin or “compromised” by the prudential decisions they make. Each must make the best moral decision possible given the situation in which he finds himself and his family, without judging others by his own opinion.

    Concretely, though this affects the planning for the school year next year.

    Government mandates require the Board of Trustees/Principal to maintain a register of all staff who interact personally with students and record their vaccination status vis-à-vis COVID-19. Those who the register shows as not vaccinated cannot work with students in person, or even in a place where they regularly come in contact with students during school hours.

    I wish to make very clear that it is not our will to enforce unjust mandates. If we do this, it is only because we see no reasonable alternative. We would rather find some means to avoid this, and where exceptions or alternatives exist and can be legally and reasonably pursued, we will pursue them, as Catholics, even in the great persecutions, have always done. Nevertheless, when presented with outwardly enforcing unjust mandates, we must—as far as possible— avoid the greater evil of losing the apostolate that is our school. To abandon 27 years of work and sacrifice to build a traditional Catholic school over a matter that is not one of Faith, is not reasonable. To do this simply because of an unjust mandate means handing a great victory to the enemies of the Church in losing access to traditional Catholic education, perhaps somewhat permanently.

    None of the staff, religious or priests in the school are advocates of the vaccine. Some staff have chosen, begrudgingly, to accept the vaccine to continue teaching and do so as a virtuous sacrifice. Some have decided this is a line they are unwilling to cross, and if they do so mindful of the Catholic doctrines and principles of morality, they also can draw this line virtuously. Others may find ways to obtain exemptions, thus appearing to comply, and could also act virtuously. Each of these groups, however, could act sinfully by lacking Charity towards others, making judgements, or speaking and acting in a condemnatory manner towards others. These are matters of conscience. Nevertheless, those choices do have external impacts, especially on those whom we are legally permitted to have on-premises at the school.

    The Boys’ college and Primary school seem to have sufficient staff to continue operating as they have for the past number of years. A reduced staff, though, will impose significant burdens on us, and so we would ask your patience and generosity. In particular, while we already expect you will assist us, we would beg you to be especially diligent to ensure your children stay focused on their studies, respectful of their teachers and the priests, well-disciplined, that homework and proper study take priority over games, entertainment, sport, or other extracurricular activities. This would be a great assistance and relief if the children come well-prepared and well-disciplined to class.

    Vaccine Mandates for Students
    Many families have expressed fear that vaccination mandates will be expanded to include students. In some cases, this has prompted some families to consider withdrawing their children.

    Such mandates for children in education are an outside possibility, but remain only a possibility. The probability of this continues to decrease. Vaccines are now approved for ages 5–12, but in late November, the Ministry of Education revoked the mandate to keep a vaccine register for children, and top officials spoke in strong terms contrary to such a mandate, saying all children have a right to education no matter vaccination status. On 21 Dec, 2021, the COVID-19 minister said mandates for children were not in the works. We are prudently hopeful no mandate is forthcoming, but if it does happen, we will cross that bridge at that time, without any will of enforcing an unjust mandate and spending every effort to still provide a proper education for your children.

    The Girls’ College
    As you will note, the Girls’ college is not listed above. This is a question nagging many since while it is an SSPX school, it is also entirely staffed by the Dominican Sisters. Their assistance in teaching is the only way we can afford to offer education at a reasonable tuition for all schools. They provide at least six full-time teachers without salary. The stipend which the sisters receive amounts to only about one-third of the cost of hiring lay staff for those positions. The Sisters have provided years of unwavering and invaluable support of our school.

    The Sisters are a group of consecrated religious. Their vocation involves a contemplative life, but also the work of education. Few of the laity can understand the exigencies of religious life, and the importance of unity in such a community. Unity is extremely important, else the whole foundation is risked, so on divisive issues, time is needed to figure out what to do. This is why such institutions, like the Church herself, naturally move extremely slowly.

    On the matter of vaccinations, if in our parish we have rifts forming over the issue of vaccination, the superiors in the convent have to take even more prudent care to ensure that there is not division among the Sisters, and with the uncertainty of further legal requirements, and fear of parents pulling children out of school over the possibilities of future mandates, the Sisters have not had sufficient time to consider what they can do without great disturbance to their religious life. Thus, the Sisters have made no decision on what to do as of yet. In speaking with parents, many have the impression 3 that the Sisters have made a decision contrary to the priests and lay staff. Rather, they are withholding a decision for now while considering what to do. De facto, the result is that they cannot be listed as vaccinated or exempt on our register, and so could not engage in face-to-face teaching.

    There are several solutions to this problem. Some have suggested that lay staff be hired to replace the Sisters, but this would not be an appropriate reaction to 20 years of excellent support which makes the other schools financially viable. Such a solution would cause immense disruption and division, the large number of good Catholic teachers are not available, and further, it is simply not affordable without the Sisters.

    Another solution is to shut the girls’ school entirely and have the girls rely on home schooling curricula, but again, this is extremely disruptive, and should the school reopen, returning to our curriculum would be disastrously difficult.

    The solution Mother General proposes is instead a temporary solution while the convent considers what to do. Mother assures me that their intention is to make a decision soon, and they would expect to reassess during the first half of the year. If exemptions or other solutions were found, they are not unwilling to begin the year as normal, and certainly we are going to work towards this if we can.

    This temporary solution would be to keep the girls enrolled in our school and run a correspondence programme to begin the year, as was done during the 2020 lockdown. Added to this would be extracurricular meetings and activities to supplement the learning off-campus at a parochial level, but not part of school. Study groups might be possible, and the Sisters’ would assist in organising these and finding venues. Packets would be provided weekly.

    Neither I, nor Fr Themann, nor Mother General see this as an ideal solution. Nevertheless, among the options considered, it seems the best to maintain stability and continuity, and minimise disruptions.

    The Sisters assure me that this would not be online teaching, so screen time would not be an issue, nor conflicting use of computers, or the need to purchase equipment. Instead of multiple curricula which do not match the programme in our school, the Sister’s temporary solution keeps the girls on our rolls studying materials that, once in-person teaching resumes, match what they would study in class, and be by the same teachers who would teach them then.

    While I will admit that initially, I was not in favour of such a proposition, and still hope to find a solution to begin the year normally, the Sisters’ planning so far does provide a workable stop-gap and even a possibility for the international boarding girls to continue in some fashion.

    We will announce soon an open house for parents to discuss these plans with the Sisters and get details, likely after the Sisters’ retreat and women’s retreat.

    Parents withdrawing children
    In the breach, however, fear of further mandates and concerns over other matters have prompted the withdrawal of several children from the school in order to, instead, seek an exemption for home schooling or some similar family cooperative. We have previously endorsed home schooling when there is a serious reason to do so, but naturally, the Church’s practice has been to encourage proper Catholic schools. Our venerable founder, Msgr Lefebvre, put this task of schooling in our statues just after seminaries, which were the most important work of the SSPX.

    As such, those parents who fear what may come to pass, I would urge them to reflect on whether this fear justifies withdrawing students immediately, or if the possibility they fear is likely. I would also urge them to obtain all the facts, for it does seem some are acting on misinformation about home education, deadlines for exemptions for this, what is permitted, whether vaccine mandates apply, or such matters.

    There might be long-term consequences for a child’s education to be shifted out of a structured programme to home school, only later to be put back in the school environment having missed out on the curriculum that is followed in that school. That can disrupt a child’s educational progress significantly.

    There is also the issue of re-enrolment, should a child be officially withdrawn. We cannot guarantee that children who do not begin the year will be permitted to enrol midway through the year, and any withdrawn student would legally need to go through the whole process of re-enrolment, this might require tests to determine their progress and if they could be placed into their previous class. As such, I ask you to carefully consider if withdrawal is prudent, and if it will serve the formation of your children before you act.

    Should you have legitimate and significant concerns, please come and speak to me about these before seeking exemption for home school or withdrawing your child.

    Discussing COVID and controversy
    A great deal of the division in the school and parish comes from discussing complex and controversial subjects around children. If these subjects are difficult for the developed and wellformed reason we adults should have, they are incredibly difficult for the children.

    Sadly, during this last school year, children heard a great deal about the controversies surrounding COVID-19. Discussion around even Primary children was commonplace. The source may have been home, staff or other students. Imprudently, some teachers discussed vaccination with students. Also, some parents seem to have suggested to their children to distrust the priests and teachers over the issue of vaccination. Thus, we had, at one point, children telling peers they should refuse to go to school, or to not follow the teachers or priests, or various hyperbole. All of this discussion puts children, who do not possess the tools and developed reason, in the centre of a controversy they cannot solve and can cause great damage to their formation, especially their spiritual lives.

    I would, therefore, urge you to not discuss the controversy over these matters around your children. Give them the confidence that you will take care of them and have their best interest at heart. If there is difficulty with other adults, discuss with those adults and leave the children to deal with problems which more directly affect their salvation, such as their duty of state, discipline, respect for authority, homework, staying peaceable at home, etc.

    Conclusion
    No matter what we do, this next year will be challenging for the school and parish. If we all try to act with charity, and foster patience, we can minimise the disruptions and maintain our school as the only traditional Catholic school in New Zealand. Seeing the sacrifices made and work done also may foster many vocations, a fruit we sorely need from our schools.

    Msgr Lefebvre said in 1987, “[t]he future of the Catholic Church and her mission lies in teaching, especially in schools run by priests and religious who preach by word and example,” adding that “[f]or society to be converted, we need Catholic schools.” In 1982 he wrote, “We need Catholic schools where young people will learn to love the Liturgy, Latin and chant, and where they will be formed in a manly and Christian fashion by sacrificing themselves for the love of Jesus Christ under the care and guidance of their heavenly Mother.” We hope to provide you and your children the best Catholic schools we can, especially with the chance to have the perennial Liturgy of the Church given them and learn the sacrificial spirit of Our Lord, even in these challenging and trying circuмstances.

    In the face of all of these challenges, we beg your assistance, trust, and your support, especially supernaturally. Be assured we will do whatever we can to support you and your children.

    Sincerely in Our Lord, Fr Ian Andrew Palko, FSSPX
    Acting Principal
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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of NZ Teachers
    « Reply #1 on: January 03, 2022, 07:25:06 PM »
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  • Original hardcopy attached above ^^^
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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #2 on: January 03, 2022, 07:34:41 PM »
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  • Resistance priests begin to comment:

    Fr. Juan Ortiz (Resistance - Columbia): 

    "Just one comment on this very confused letter from Fr Palko SSPX: the division among faithful concerning the devil’s vaccine is the DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of the SSPX lax position on the matter leaving to the individual decide to get the shot or not. It’s unbelievable that Father praises the teachers who got the vaccine calling their decision “virtuous”. (sic) -- Fr. Ortiz


    Fr. Francois Chazal (Resistance - Philipines) 

    "The letter is amazing. Don t talk about vaccines in front of your children; unity is our top priority and the condition of our supernatural mission; antivax sisters are just "not deciding yet"...  And this situation morality!  SSPX priests are all vaccinated, the letter admits. Then they are going to develop auto immune diseases among other troubles. I'm wondering what killed that SSPX priest all of a sudden in Manila.  ...it shows the depth of the problem of staying "institutional" "approved" "recognized."

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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #3 on: January 03, 2022, 07:35:27 PM »
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  • What a long winded mess of a letter.  I feel sorry for those in NZ...the new-sspx has abandoned them to the jab-tyrants.

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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #4 on: January 03, 2022, 07:41:53 PM »
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  • Resistance priests begin to comment:

    Fr. Juan Ortiz (Resistance - Columbia):

    "Just one comment on this very confused letter from Fr Palko SSPX: the division among faithful concerning the devil’s vaccine is the DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of the SSPX lax position on the matter leaving to the individual decide to get the shot or not. It’s unbelievable that Father praises the teachers who got the vaccine calling their decision “virtuous”. (sic) -- Fr. Ortiz


    Fr. Francois Chazal (Resistance - Philipines)

    "The letter is amazing. Don t talk about vaccines in front of your children; unity is our top priority and the condition of our supernatural mission; antivax sisters are just "not deciding yet"...  And this situation morality!  SSPX priests are all vaccinated, the letter admits. Then they are going to develop auto immune diseases among other troubles. I'm wondering what killed that SSPX priest all of a sudden in Manila.  ...it shows the depth of the problem of staying "institutional" "approved" "recognized."

    Well said.


    You can't be on good terms with an evil regime. You shouldn't WANT to be.

    The SSPX desire to be on good terms with the satanic world, Vatican II, the Conciliar Church -- no good will come of it, I can tell you that.
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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #5 on: January 03, 2022, 08:01:08 PM »
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  • Dear Fr. Palko-

    Could you please explain why the arguments in this article are erroneous or inapplicable?

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/on-abortion-tainted-vaccines/

    Supposing for the sake of argument that remote material cooperation with abortion vis-a-vis the COVID19 "vaccines" could ever be morally licit, the Vatican therein lays out the criteria and circuмstances which must be present to justify it.

    As this anonymous priest explains, of the four essential criteria which could (allegedly) justify such cooperation, three are absent.

    It is therefore indisputably morally illicit for any Catholic (or anyone else, for that matter) to receive a covid19 gene serum.

    Why are you and the SSPX saying the opposite?

    It gives the impression of being self-serving.  Self-serving, because if was the SSPX in 2005 which reversed its former per se ban on receiving abortive vaccines, citing the non-authoritative/non-magisterial 2005 docuмent of the Pontifical Academy for Life as its authority.

    But today, the SSPX ignores that same Vatican, even after it published a magisterial and binding docuмent by the CDF titled Dignitas Personae in 2008 (later reaffirmed in 2020/2021).

    This US District office has been in possession of this article for at least 3 months now, but no correction or refutation.  It has simply chosen to ignore it, preferring to remain content with Menzingen's citations from non-binding moral theology manuals of what is permissible as regards remote material cooperation in evil in cases of necessity generally, but again, ignoring completely the fact that the Vatican has defined precisely what the criteria for such cooperation are, relative to the COVID vax.

    Could it be that the SSPX does not like the implications such sound judgment would have for its schools, priests, and bishops?


    This letter acknowledges it outright, when it adduces as a reason for complicity with the NZ edict, the fact that the school was built with much effort 27 years ago, and therefore it would be a shame to close it today, after so much effort.  

    Until and unless the SSPX can explain why the 2008 docuмent Dignitas Personae is to be ignored, is it not eminently reasonable instead to ignore the SSPX position (or, given that it is advanced in contradiction to reasonable guidelines from pontifical authority, to oppose the SSPX position actively as error, from a true charity for souls?)?

    And if the SSPX is feeling the sting of repudiation from clergy and faithful, has it not brought upon itself this reproach, by appearing [again, I do not judge intentions] to have chosen the path of complicity, ease, and compromise over that of persecution, suffering, and sacrifice (so needed and demanded by God as reparation amidst this present chastisement!)?

    I note in passing that you have quoted Archbishop Lefebvre on the importance of traditional schools, and hold this out as a reason for keeping them open even at the price of persuading your faithful and teachers to get a dangerous serum.  But perhaps you did not notice that at the time +Lefebvre was making these statements, the SSPX was against the moral liceity of receiving an abortion tainted vaccine under any circuмstances.  Neither did it leave this decision open to its faithful, but recognized this was a duty incuмbent upon them, even if it meant resisting state vaccine mandates.


    Do you really believe Archbishop Lefebvre would give the same advice you are giving today (when the SSPX held a diametrically opposed position while he was alive)?

    Semper Idem,
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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #6 on: January 03, 2022, 09:50:43 PM »
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  • I'm disappointed because Fr. Palko gives good sermons but alas here we are. We are in a state of emergency and if the state forces Catholic schools to impose vaccine mandates, then the priests should be willing to close the school and encourage parents to homeschool. The school can be dispensed of in these times.
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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #7 on: January 03, 2022, 10:17:19 PM »
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  • Meanwhile, from the FSSP:

    FSSP priest advises laity to avoid COVID shots, warns ‘one world government’ is in the works


    Fr. Daniel Nolan addressed the lies and falsehoods politicians and public health leaders told society about COVID.


    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fssp-priest-advises-laity-to-avoid-covid-shots-warns-one-world-government-is-in-the-works/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa
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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #8 on: January 03, 2022, 10:32:36 PM »
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  • I think that in general, many Catholics are afraid of "breaking the rules", in this case, mind you, clearly unjust laws which they ought to resist, even if it means doing something like forging information.

    (Not recommending it, but in theory it is an option. Remember that priests who wanted to get into England during the Penal Times to minister Sacraments to the Faithful HAD to come into the country under pseudonyms and forged passports, or they'd be thrown in jail, banished, or even executed. Despite what would otherwise appear to be lying, the Church did not condemn the measures of these priests in such desperate times. Maybe there is something we can extrapolate from this). 

    Of course, there is the more prudent option of abandoning the school and encouraging all families to instead engage in homeschooling. It is, in my opinion, an attachment to bricks and motars, so to speak, that is holding the SSPX there back from this hard yet obviously right option, rather than encourage souls to get the poison. 

    You can't be on good terms with an evil regime. You shouldn't WANT to be.

    The SSPX desire to be on good terms with the satanic world, Vatican II, the Conciliar Church -- no good will come of it, I can tell you that.

    This especially when considering that Jacinda Arden (the PM of NZ) was named a "World Economic Forum Young Global Leader" in 2014. Anyone who has ties to that insidious Fabian Socialist institution, is clearly our enemy, clearly a whited sepulcher! 

    But getting back to my original point, I think many people today, Catholics and non-Catholics, falling into the kind of mania that Hilaire Belloc described in his book Europe and the Faith

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    But the sense of an absolute civil government at the moment of the Reformation was something very different. It was a demand, an appetite, proceeding from the whole community, a worship of civil authority. It was the deification of the State and of law; it was the adoration of the Executive. 

    "This governs me; therefore I will worship it and do all it tells me." Such is the formula for the strange passion which has now and then seized great bodies of human beings intoxicated by splendor and by the vivifying effects of command. Like all manias (for it is a mania) this exaggerated passion is hardly comprehended once it is past. Like all manias, while it is present it overrides every other emotion.

    (pg. 162)




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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #9 on: January 03, 2022, 10:38:15 PM »
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  •    “ Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, 80, has written an open letter to America’s bishops expressing concern about various issues concerning the Coronavirus, and the vaccinations against the virus.“

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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #10 on: January 04, 2022, 05:43:38 AM »
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  • Since when is it right to choose keeping a school open over the right of the pre-born to life?  
    The Carmelite sisters have been placed in an awkward position because of that choice.
    Look at it in the light of eternity.
    Closing the school will make a greater impact for the good of souls.
    Homeschool or set up many small homeschooling groups guided by a teacher. If pay is necessary, give a “suggested donation.”  IOW, go underground.
    Perhaps the sisters and SSPX could collaborate on a screen-free correspondence course covering all the levels of basic education.  (I’m unfamiliar with the system of schooling in NZ.)



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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #11 on: January 04, 2022, 02:41:59 PM »
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  • Dear Fr. Palko-

    Could you please explain why the arguments in this article are erroneous or inapplicable?

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/on-abortion-tainted-vaccines/

    Supposing for the sake of argument that remote material cooperation with abortion vis-a-vis the COVID19 "vaccines" could ever be morally licit, the Vatican therein lays out the criteria and circuмstances which must be present to justify it.

    As this anonymous priest explains, of the four essential criteria which could (allegedly) justify such cooperation, three are absent.

    Three more articles from (another?) anonymous priest, writing under the pseudonym "Fr. Ambrose Astor," for your consideration:

    1) Conscience and Vaccines: https://catacombs.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/misc/Fr._Ambrose_Astor/Ambrosiaster_1_Conscience.pdf

    2) Prudence and Vaccines: https://catacombs.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/misc/Fr._Ambrose_Astor/Ambrosiaster_2_Prudence.pdf

    3) Charity and Vaccines (Intended for Priests): https://catacombs.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/misc/Fr._Ambrose_Astor/Ambrosiaster_3_Charity.pdf

    Fr. Ambrose Astor can be contacted directly here: ambroseastor@protonmail.com
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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #12 on: January 04, 2022, 02:50:28 PM »
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  • Meanwhile, from the FSSP:

    FSSP priest advises laity to avoid COVID shots, warns ‘one world government’ is in the works


    Fr. Daniel Nolan addressed the lies and falsehoods politicians and public health leaders told society about COVID.


    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fssp-priest-advises-laity-to-avoid-covid-shots-warns-one-world-government-is-in-the-works/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa

    It's a sad development that +Vigano, +Schneider, and even the FSSP have gone to the left of SSPX, and even a few sedevacantists ... on  this issue.  Where from the SSPX has one ever heard anything regarding the entire political context of this thing, about the nefarious genocidal and soul-killing plans of the Illuminati / Masons / Jєωs / One World Order, etc.?  They banished Bishop Williamson over the h0Ɩ0h0αx.

    That's because the SSPX wants to appear "normal" by the world's standards.  They would like to curry favor with the media and newspapers.  "See, we're just like you."  We can't appear as if we're tinfoil-hat-wearing crazies.  SSPX care more about PR (and the revenue good PR generates) than about truth.  So they play along with and even aid/abet the Satanic agenda.  Shame on them.

    They even roll out the Modernistic views of Fr. Paul Robinson to make it look as if they embrace mainstream science, when there's been a Satanic agenda driving it for a few hundred years now.

    Alas, that is not unlike the attitude of one Pope Pius XII, who's mostly responsible for the mess of Vatican II for this very reason, attempting to curry favor with the world.  See, we're "reasonable" people.  And as the Church went at V2 on account of it, so too will the SSPX go.  They too want an aggiornamento and seek to open the windows of the SSPX to the world.  No "prophets of doom" and gloom allowed.  Sound familiar?  Roncalli is their man.

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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #13 on: January 04, 2022, 04:25:13 PM »
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  • I am wondering if getting the vaxx or at least remaining silent is a part of the deal?  or part of the "normalizing" process?  Can it really be that bad with the SSPX priests?  

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    Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
    « Reply #14 on: January 04, 2022, 05:17:26 PM »
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  •  Where from the SSPX has one ever heard anything regarding the entire political context of this thing, about the nefarious genocidal and soul-killing plans of the Illuminati / Masons / Jєωs / One World Order, etc.? 

    A few SSPX priests have, but as soon as their online videos are publicized (like maybe here on CI?), they disappear & you don't hear any more from them.