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Title: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 03, 2022, 07:22:34 PM
l St Dominic’s College PO Box 7123
Whanganui 4500 New Zealand
+64 6-281 3976
i.palko@sspx.org.nz

28 December 2021

Dear Parents

Early this year, we learned of the imminent transfer of our long-time principal and prior, Fr François Laisney, to an assignment in France as soon as his replacement, Fr Pierre Chrissement, would arrive. Due to borders, visas, and other exigencies, Fr Laisney remained and has managed the school and parish in very difficult circuмstances. A significant part of his priestly life has involved Whanganui, and we owe a deep debt of gratitude as he moves on to his new assignment in January.

To facilitate that, Fr Daniel Themann, our District Superior, has decided that the role of Pastor/Prior will be separated from that of Principal of the school. This is frequently done in our schools in the United States and elsewhere, such as Manila and Tynong, so it is not a unique system. As I am the only priest who is a registered teacher, I will be taking up this second role as Acting Principal, at first under Fr Laisney while we transition things, and then under Fr McNamara, who will take up the role of prior/pastor until Fr Chrissement arrives, possibly mid-year 2022. We are also hoping to have another Australian priest, Fr Todd Stephens, join us as soon as possible, and he would take up my present role as Dean of the Boys’ School, with an aim towards following the same teacher registration programme I did and being registered as a teacher in New Zealand.

Seeing how much effort and work Fr Laisney constantly offers, is humbling, so both Fr McNamara and I will depend on your assistance and support in trying to fill his shoes.

Given the uncertainty that this introduces, Fr Themann and I thought it appropriate that I write and detail for you what is planned for the next year, and explain a bit of why we plan this.

Planning for the 2022 Academic Year
This past year has ended with some tumult especially with vaccination mandates for educational staff. Divisions over choices made there have shown unfortunate fissures in the parish and school, including a great deal of assumptions. The priests have emphasised the fraternal Charity needed to stay unified in our supernatural goal. We recognise that faithful will take different prudential decisions on the vaccines or the education of their children, but I will echo that same point Fr Laisney has made many times: we must avoid making impassioned, rash statements and judgements about the prudential decisions others take. We must avoid saying or suggesting by words or actions that others are guilty of sin or “compromised” by the prudential decisions they make. Each must make the best moral decision possible given the situation in which he finds himself and his family, without judging others by his own opinion.

Concretely, though this affects the planning for the school year next year.

Government mandates require the Board of Trustees/Principal to maintain a register of all staff who interact personally with students and record their vaccination status vis-à-vis COVID-19. Those who the register shows as not vaccinated cannot work with students in person, or even in a place where they regularly come in contact with students during school hours.

I wish to make very clear that it is not our will to enforce unjust mandates. If we do this, it is only because we see no reasonable alternative. We would rather find some means to avoid this, and where exceptions or alternatives exist and can be legally and reasonably pursued, we will pursue them, as Catholics, even in the great persecutions, have always done. Nevertheless, when presented with outwardly enforcing unjust mandates, we must—as far as possible— avoid the greater evil of losing the apostolate that is our school. To abandon 27 years of work and sacrifice to build a traditional Catholic school over a matter that is not one of Faith, is not reasonable. To do this simply because of an unjust mandate means handing a great victory to the enemies of the Church in losing access to traditional Catholic education, perhaps somewhat permanently.

None of the staff, religious or priests in the school are advocates of the vaccine. Some staff have chosen, begrudgingly, to accept the vaccine to continue teaching and do so as a virtuous sacrifice. Some have decided this is a line they are unwilling to cross, and if they do so mindful of the Catholic doctrines and principles of morality, they also can draw this line virtuously. Others may find ways to obtain exemptions, thus appearing to comply, and could also act virtuously. Each of these groups, however, could act sinfully by lacking Charity towards others, making judgements, or speaking and acting in a condemnatory manner towards others. These are matters of conscience. Nevertheless, those choices do have external impacts, especially on those whom we are legally permitted to have on-premises at the school.

The Boys’ college and Primary school seem to have sufficient staff to continue operating as they have for the past number of years. A reduced staff, though, will impose significant burdens on us, and so we would ask your patience and generosity. In particular, while we already expect you will assist us, we would beg you to be especially diligent to ensure your children stay focused on their studies, respectful of their teachers and the priests, well-disciplined, that homework and proper study take priority over games, entertainment, sport, or other extracurricular activities. This would be a great assistance and relief if the children come well-prepared and well-disciplined to class.

Vaccine Mandates for Students
Many families have expressed fear that vaccination mandates will be expanded to include students. In some cases, this has prompted some families to consider withdrawing their children.

Such mandates for children in education are an outside possibility, but remain only a possibility. The probability of this continues to decrease. Vaccines are now approved for ages 5–12, but in late November, the Ministry of Education revoked the mandate to keep a vaccine register for children, and top officials spoke in strong terms contrary to such a mandate, saying all children have a right to education no matter vaccination status. On 21 Dec, 2021, the COVID-19 minister said mandates for children were not in the works. We are prudently hopeful no mandate is forthcoming, but if it does happen, we will cross that bridge at that time, without any will of enforcing an unjust mandate and spending every effort to still provide a proper education for your children.

The Girls’ College
As you will note, the Girls’ college is not listed above. This is a question nagging many since while it is an SSPX school, it is also entirely staffed by the Dominican Sisters. Their assistance in teaching is the only way we can afford to offer education at a reasonable tuition for all schools. They provide at least six full-time teachers without salary. The stipend which the sisters receive amounts to only about one-third of the cost of hiring lay staff for those positions. The Sisters have provided years of unwavering and invaluable support of our school.

The Sisters are a group of consecrated religious. Their vocation involves a contemplative life, but also the work of education. Few of the laity can understand the exigencies of religious life, and the importance of unity in such a community. Unity is extremely important, else the whole foundation is risked, so on divisive issues, time is needed to figure out what to do. This is why such institutions, like the Church herself, naturally move extremely slowly.

On the matter of vaccinations, if in our parish we have rifts forming over the issue of vaccination, the superiors in the convent have to take even more prudent care to ensure that there is not division among the Sisters, and with the uncertainty of further legal requirements, and fear of parents pulling children out of school over the possibilities of future mandates, the Sisters have not had sufficient time to consider what they can do without great disturbance to their religious life. Thus, the Sisters have made no decision on what to do as of yet. In speaking with parents, many have the impression 3 that the Sisters have made a decision contrary to the priests and lay staff. Rather, they are withholding a decision for now while considering what to do. De facto, the result is that they cannot be listed as vaccinated or exempt on our register, and so could not engage in face-to-face teaching.

There are several solutions to this problem. Some have suggested that lay staff be hired to replace the Sisters, but this would not be an appropriate reaction to 20 years of excellent support which makes the other schools financially viable. Such a solution would cause immense disruption and division, the large number of good Catholic teachers are not available, and further, it is simply not affordable without the Sisters.

Another solution is to shut the girls’ school entirely and have the girls rely on home schooling curricula, but again, this is extremely disruptive, and should the school reopen, returning to our curriculum would be disastrously difficult.

The solution Mother General proposes is instead a temporary solution while the convent considers what to do. Mother assures me that their intention is to make a decision soon, and they would expect to reassess during the first half of the year. If exemptions or other solutions were found, they are not unwilling to begin the year as normal, and certainly we are going to work towards this if we can.

This temporary solution would be to keep the girls enrolled in our school and run a correspondence programme to begin the year, as was done during the 2020 lockdown. Added to this would be extracurricular meetings and activities to supplement the learning off-campus at a parochial level, but not part of school. Study groups might be possible, and the Sisters’ would assist in organising these and finding venues. Packets would be provided weekly.

Neither I, nor Fr Themann, nor Mother General see this as an ideal solution. Nevertheless, among the options considered, it seems the best to maintain stability and continuity, and minimise disruptions.

The Sisters assure me that this would not be online teaching, so screen time would not be an issue, nor conflicting use of computers, or the need to purchase equipment. Instead of multiple curricula which do not match the programme in our school, the Sister’s temporary solution keeps the girls on our rolls studying materials that, once in-person teaching resumes, match what they would study in class, and be by the same teachers who would teach them then.

While I will admit that initially, I was not in favour of such a proposition, and still hope to find a solution to begin the year normally, the Sisters’ planning so far does provide a workable stop-gap and even a possibility for the international boarding girls to continue in some fashion.

We will announce soon an open house for parents to discuss these plans with the Sisters and get details, likely after the Sisters’ retreat and women’s retreat.

Parents withdrawing children
In the breach, however, fear of further mandates and concerns over other matters have prompted the withdrawal of several children from the school in order to, instead, seek an exemption for home schooling or some similar family cooperative. We have previously endorsed home schooling when there is a serious reason to do so, but naturally, the Church’s practice has been to encourage proper Catholic schools. Our venerable founder, Msgr Lefebvre, put this task of schooling in our statues just after seminaries, which were the most important work of the SSPX.

As such, those parents who fear what may come to pass, I would urge them to reflect on whether this fear justifies withdrawing students immediately, or if the possibility they fear is likely. I would also urge them to obtain all the facts, for it does seem some are acting on misinformation about home education, deadlines for exemptions for this, what is permitted, whether vaccine mandates apply, or such matters.

There might be long-term consequences for a child’s education to be shifted out of a structured programme to home school, only later to be put back in the school environment having missed out on the curriculum that is followed in that school. That can disrupt a child’s educational progress significantly.

There is also the issue of re-enrolment, should a child be officially withdrawn. We cannot guarantee that children who do not begin the year will be permitted to enrol midway through the year, and any withdrawn student would legally need to go through the whole process of re-enrolment, this might require tests to determine their progress and if they could be placed into their previous class. As such, I ask you to carefully consider if withdrawal is prudent, and if it will serve the formation of your children before you act.

Should you have legitimate and significant concerns, please come and speak to me about these before seeking exemption for home school or withdrawing your child.

Discussing COVID and controversy
A great deal of the division in the school and parish comes from discussing complex and controversial subjects around children. If these subjects are difficult for the developed and wellformed reason we adults should have, they are incredibly difficult for the children.

Sadly, during this last school year, children heard a great deal about the controversies surrounding COVID-19. Discussion around even Primary children was commonplace. The source may have been home, staff or other students. Imprudently, some teachers discussed vaccination with students. Also, some parents seem to have suggested to their children to distrust the priests and teachers over the issue of vaccination. Thus, we had, at one point, children telling peers they should refuse to go to school, or to not follow the teachers or priests, or various hyperbole. All of this discussion puts children, who do not possess the tools and developed reason, in the centre of a controversy they cannot solve and can cause great damage to their formation, especially their spiritual lives.

I would, therefore, urge you to not discuss the controversy over these matters around your children. Give them the confidence that you will take care of them and have their best interest at heart. If there is difficulty with other adults, discuss with those adults and leave the children to deal with problems which more directly affect their salvation, such as their duty of state, discipline, respect for authority, homework, staying peaceable at home, etc.

Conclusion
No matter what we do, this next year will be challenging for the school and parish. If we all try to act with charity, and foster patience, we can minimise the disruptions and maintain our school as the only traditional Catholic school in New Zealand. Seeing the sacrifices made and work done also may foster many vocations, a fruit we sorely need from our schools.

Msgr Lefebvre said in 1987, “[t]he future of the Catholic Church and her mission lies in teaching, especially in schools run by priests and religious who preach by word and example,” adding that “[f]or society to be converted, we need Catholic schools.” In 1982 he wrote, “We need Catholic schools where young people will learn to love the Liturgy, Latin and chant, and where they will be formed in a manly and Christian fashion by sacrificing themselves for the love of Jesus Christ under the care and guidance of their heavenly Mother.” We hope to provide you and your children the best Catholic schools we can, especially with the chance to have the perennial Liturgy of the Church given them and learn the sacrificial spirit of Our Lord, even in these challenging and trying circuмstances.

In the face of all of these challenges, we beg your assistance, trust, and your support, especially supernaturally. Be assured we will do whatever we can to support you and your children.

Sincerely in Our Lord, Fr Ian Andrew Palko, FSSPX
Acting Principal
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of NZ Teachers
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 03, 2022, 07:25:06 PM
Original hardcopy attached above ^^^
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 03, 2022, 07:34:41 PM
Resistance priests begin to comment:

Fr. Juan Ortiz (Resistance - Columbia): 

"Just one comment on this very confused letter from Fr Palko SSPX: the division among faithful concerning the devil’s vaccine is the DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of the SSPX lax position on the matter leaving to the individual decide to get the shot or not. It’s unbelievable that Father praises the teachers who got the vaccine calling their decision “virtuous”. (sic) -- Fr. Ortiz


Fr. Francois Chazal (Resistance - Philipines) 

"The letter is amazing. Don t talk about vaccines in front of your children; unity is our top priority and the condition of our supernatural mission; antivax sisters are just "not deciding yet"...  And this situation morality!  SSPX priests are all vaccinated, the letter admits. Then they are going to develop auto immune diseases among other troubles. I'm wondering what killed that SSPX priest all of a sudden in Manila.  ...it shows the depth of the problem of staying "institutional" "approved" "recognized."

Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: Pax Vobis on January 03, 2022, 07:35:27 PM
What a long winded mess of a letter.  I feel sorry for those in NZ...the new-sspx has abandoned them to the jab-tyrants.
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: Matthew on January 03, 2022, 07:41:53 PM
Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 03, 2022, 07:34:41 PM
Resistance priests begin to comment:

Fr. Juan Ortiz (Resistance - Columbia):

"Just one comment on this very confused letter from Fr Palko SSPX: the division among faithful concerning the devil’s vaccine is the DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of the SSPX lax position on the matter leaving to the individual decide to get the shot or not. It’s unbelievable that Father praises the teachers who got the vaccine calling their decision “virtuous”. (sic) -- Fr. Ortiz


Fr. Francois Chazal (Resistance - Philipines)

"The letter is amazing. Don t talk about vaccines in front of your children; unity is our top priority and the condition of our supernatural mission; antivax sisters are just "not deciding yet"...  And this situation morality!  SSPX priests are all vaccinated, the letter admits. Then they are going to develop auto immune diseases among other troubles. I'm wondering what killed that SSPX priest all of a sudden in Manila.  ...it shows the depth of the problem of staying "institutional" "approved" "recognized."

Well said.


You can't be on good terms with an evil regime. You shouldn't WANT to be.

The SSPX desire to be on good terms with the satanic world, Vatican II, the Conciliar Church -- no good will come of it, I can tell you that.
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 03, 2022, 08:01:08 PM
Dear Fr. Palko-

Could you please explain why the arguments in this article are erroneous or inapplicable?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/on-abortion-tainted-vaccines/

Supposing for the sake of argument that remote material cooperation with abortion vis-a-vis the COVID19 "vaccines" could ever be morally licit, the Vatican therein lays out the criteria and circuмstances which must be present to justify it.

As this anonymous priest explains, of the four essential criteria which could (allegedly) justify such cooperation, three are absent.

It is therefore indisputably morally illicit for any Catholic (or anyone else, for that matter) to receive a covid19 gene serum.

Why are you and the SSPX saying the opposite?

It gives the impression of being self-serving.  Self-serving, because if was the SSPX in 2005 which reversed its former per se ban on receiving abortive vaccines, citing the non-authoritative/non-magisterial 2005 docuмent of the Pontifical Academy for Life as its authority.

But today, the SSPX ignores that same Vatican, even after it published a magisterial and binding docuмent by the CDF titled Dignitas Personae in 2008 (later reaffirmed in 2020/2021).

This US District office has been in possession of this article for at least 3 months now, but no correction or refutation.  It has simply chosen to ignore it, preferring to remain content with Menzingen's citations from non-binding moral theology manuals of what is permissible as regards remote material cooperation in evil in cases of necessity generally, but again, ignoring completely the fact that the Vatican has defined precisely what the criteria for such cooperation are, relative to the COVID vax.

Could it be that the SSPX does not like the implications such sound judgment would have for its schools, priests, and bishops?

This letter acknowledges it outright, when it adduces as a reason for complicity with the NZ edict, the fact that the school was built with much effort 27 years ago, and therefore it would be a shame to close it today, after so much effort.  

Until and unless the SSPX can explain why the 2008 docuмent Dignitas Personae is to be ignored, is it not eminently reasonable instead to ignore the SSPX position (or, given that it is advanced in contradiction to reasonable guidelines from pontifical authority, to oppose the SSPX position actively as error, from a true charity for souls?)?

And if the SSPX is feeling the sting of repudiation from clergy and faithful, has it not brought upon itself this reproach, by appearing [again, I do not judge intentions] to have chosen the path of complicity, ease, and compromise over that of persecution, suffering, and sacrifice (so needed and demanded by God as reparation amidst this present chastisement!)?

I note in passing that you have quoted Archbishop Lefebvre on the importance of traditional schools, and hold this out as a reason for keeping them open even at the price of persuading your faithful and teachers to get a dangerous serum.  But perhaps you did not notice that at the time +Lefebvre was making these statements, the SSPX was against the moral liceity of receiving an abortion tainted vaccine under any circuмstances.  Neither did it leave this decision open to its faithful, but recognized this was a duty incuмbent upon them, even if it meant resisting state vaccine mandates.

Do you really believe Archbishop Lefebvre would give the same advice you are giving today (when the SSPX held a diametrically opposed position while he was alive)?

Semper Idem,
Sean Johnson
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: DustyActual on January 03, 2022, 09:50:43 PM
I'm disappointed because Fr. Palko gives good sermons but alas here we are. We are in a state of emergency and if the state forces Catholic schools to impose vaccine mandates, then the priests should be willing to close the school and encourage parents to homeschool. The school can be dispensed of in these times.
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 03, 2022, 10:17:19 PM
Meanwhile, from the FSSP:

FSSP priest advises laity to avoid COVID shots, warns ‘one world government’ is in the works

Fr. Daniel Nolan addressed the lies and falsehoods politicians and public health leaders told society about COVID.


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fssp-priest-advises-laity-to-avoid-covid-shots-warns-one-world-government-is-in-the-works/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: StLouisIX on January 03, 2022, 10:32:36 PM
I think that in general, many Catholics are afraid of "breaking the rules", in this case, mind you, clearly unjust laws which they ought to resist, even if it means doing something like forging information.

(Not recommending it, but in theory it is an option. Remember that priests who wanted to get into England during the Penal Times to minister Sacraments to the Faithful HAD to come into the country under pseudonyms and forged passports, or they'd be thrown in jail, banished, or even executed. Despite what would otherwise appear to be lying, the Church did not condemn the measures of these priests in such desperate times. Maybe there is something we can extrapolate from this). 

Of course, there is the more prudent option of abandoning the school and encouraging all families to instead engage in homeschooling. It is, in my opinion, an attachment to bricks and motars, so to speak, that is holding the SSPX there back from this hard yet obviously right option, rather than encourage souls to get the poison. 

Quote from: Matthew on January 03, 2022, 07:41:53 PM
You can't be on good terms with an evil regime. You shouldn't WANT to be.

The SSPX desire to be on good terms with the satanic world, Vatican II, the Conciliar Church -- no good will come of it, I can tell you that.

This especially when considering that Jacinda Arden (the PM of NZ) was named (https://nyldnz.org/speakers/jacinda-ardern/) a "World Economic Forum Young Global Leader" in 2014. Anyone who has ties to that insidious Fabian Socialist institution, is clearly our enemy, clearly a whited sepulcher! 

But getting back to my original point, I think many people today, Catholics and non-Catholics, falling into the kind of mania that Hilaire Belloc described in his book Europe and the Faith: 

Quote
But the sense of an absolute civil government at the moment of the Reformation was something very different. It was a demand, an appetite, proceeding from the whole community, a worship of civil authority. It was the deification of the State and of law; it was the adoration of the Executive. 

"This governs me; therefore I will worship it and do all it tells me." Such is the formula for the strange passion which has now and then seized great bodies of human beings intoxicated by splendor and by the vivifying effects of command. Like all manias (for it is a mania) this exaggerated passion is hardly comprehended once it is past. Like all manias, while it is present it overrides every other emotion.

(pg. 162)



Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on January 03, 2022, 10:38:15 PM
   “ Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, 80, has written an open letter to America’s bishops expressing concern about various issues concerning the Coronavirus, and the vaccinations against the virus.“

Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: Seraphina on January 04, 2022, 05:43:38 AM
Since when is it right to choose keeping a school open over the right of the pre-born to life?  
The Carmelite sisters have been placed in an awkward position because of that choice.
Look at it in the light of eternity.
Closing the school will make a greater impact for the good of souls.
Homeschool or set up many small homeschooling groups guided by a teacher. If pay is necessary, give a “suggested donation.”  IOW, go underground.
Perhaps the sisters and SSPX could collaborate on a screen-free correspondence course covering all the levels of basic education.  (I’m unfamiliar with the system of schooling in NZ.)

Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 04, 2022, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 03, 2022, 08:01:08 PM
Dear Fr. Palko-

Could you please explain why the arguments in this article are erroneous or inapplicable?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/on-abortion-tainted-vaccines/

Supposing for the sake of argument that remote material cooperation with abortion vis-a-vis the COVID19 "vaccines" could ever be morally licit, the Vatican therein lays out the criteria and circuмstances which must be present to justify it.

As this anonymous priest explains, of the four essential criteria which could (allegedly) justify such cooperation, three are absent.

Three more articles from (another?) anonymous priest, writing under the pseudonym "Fr. Ambrose Astor," for your consideration:

1) Conscience and Vaccines: https://catacombs.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/misc/Fr._Ambrose_Astor/Ambrosiaster_1_Conscience.pdf

2) Prudence and Vaccines: https://catacombs.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/misc/Fr._Ambrose_Astor/Ambrosiaster_2_Prudence.pdf

3) Charity and Vaccines (Intended for Priests): https://catacombs.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/misc/Fr._Ambrose_Astor/Ambrosiaster_3_Charity.pdf

Fr. Ambrose Astor can be contacted directly here: ambroseastor@protonmail.com
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: Ladislaus on January 04, 2022, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 03, 2022, 10:17:19 PM
Meanwhile, from the FSSP:

FSSP priest advises laity to avoid COVID shots, warns ‘one world government’ is in the works

Fr. Daniel Nolan addressed the lies and falsehoods politicians and public health leaders told society about COVID.


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fssp-priest-advises-laity-to-avoid-covid-shots-warns-one-world-government-is-in-the-works/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa

It's a sad development that +Vigano, +Schneider, and even the FSSP have gone to the left of SSPX, and even a few sedevacantists ... on  this issue.  Where from the SSPX has one ever heard anything regarding the entire political context of this thing, about the nefarious genocidal and soul-killing plans of the Illuminati / Masons / Jєωs / One World Order, etc.?  They banished Bishop Williamson over the h0Ɩ0h0αx.

That's because the SSPX wants to appear "normal" by the world's standards.  They would like to curry favor with the media and newspapers.  "See, we're just like you."  We can't appear as if we're tinfoil-hat-wearing crazies.  SSPX care more about PR (and the revenue good PR generates) than about truth.  So they play along with and even aid/abet the Satanic agenda.  Shame on them.

They even roll out the Modernistic views of Fr. Paul Robinson to make it look as if they embrace mainstream science, when there's been a Satanic agenda driving it for a few hundred years now.

Alas, that is not unlike the attitude of one Pope Pius XII, who's mostly responsible for the mess of Vatican II for this very reason, attempting to curry favor with the world.  See, we're "reasonable" people.  And as the Church went at V2 on account of it, so too will the SSPX go.  They too want an aggiornamento and seek to open the windows of the SSPX to the world.  No "prophets of doom" and gloom allowed.  Sound familiar?  Roncalli is their man.
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: justG on January 04, 2022, 04:25:13 PM
I am wondering if getting the vaxx or at least remaining silent is a part of the deal?  or part of the "normalizing" process?  Can it really be that bad with the SSPX priests?  
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: B from A on January 04, 2022, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: Ladislaus on January 04, 2022, 02:50:28 PM
 Where from the SSPX has one ever heard anything regarding the entire political context of this thing, about the nefarious genocidal and soul-killing plans of the Illuminati / Masons / Jєωs / One World Order, etc.? 

A few SSPX priests have, but as soon as their online videos are publicized (like maybe here on CI?), they disappear & you don't hear any more from them.  
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: Aleah on January 04, 2022, 06:21:08 PM
Why haven't they gone underground? Did they forget of their Catholic history and catacombs?
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 04, 2022, 09:20:06 PM
Meanwhile, over in the Novus Ordo:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bp-strickland-id-rather-die-than-benefit-from-anything-produced-by-using-an-aborted-child/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa 


Bp. Strickland: ‘I’d rather die than benefit from anything produced by using an aborted child’
Long a strong critic of abortion-tainted COVID shots, Bishop Strickland is 'tripling down' on his opposition, this time in support of similar statements by Fr. Mark Goring.
(https://www.lifesitenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Bishop_Strickland-810x500.png)Bishop Joseph Strickland of Tyler, Texas


Emily Mangiaracina (https://www.lifesitenews.com/author/emily-mangiaracina/)
Comments
Tue Jan 4, 2022 - 9:01 pm EST
(LifeSiteNews (https://lifesitenews.com/)) – Bishop Joseph Strickland of Tyler, Texas avowed that he would rather die than attempt to benefit from a “vaccine” produced using an aborted child.
Strickland shared his strongest repudiation yet of abortion-tainted vaccines in a Dec. 30 tweet supporting similar sentiments by Father Mark Goring:

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Both Strickland and Goring have been vocal opponents of the use of fetal cell lines in the development of “vaccines” or any other products since at least soon after the COVID-19 outbreak. In December 2020, they discussed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnBtpNTfph4) with each other the moral problems with the COVID vaccines developed using cell lines of aborted children.
Strickland said of the vaccines at the time, “The bottom line is, if it used unborn children that were aborted, intentionally killed, and we’re using their bodies to build something that helps our bodies, I say no, and I encourage others to say no.”
When Goring brought up the interior conflict of someone who wants to protect an elderly, vulnerable family member from COVID-19 and its potentially deadly consequences, Strickland pointed out that the Code of Canon Law expressly states that it is “based on the salvation of souls,” and therefore all of our decisions should prioritize that end.
Strickland cautioned people “to not compromise that call to everlasting life to hang on to a few more years here.”
While the video from Goring that Strickland shared in his Dec. 30 tweet has since been made private, Goring has two public recent videos expressing his firm rejection of abortion-tainted pharmaceutical products, including “vaccines,” that is, those developed using cells derived from aborted children.
In his “Tainted Pharmaceuticals” video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWGVp_a3B4Y) posted Dec. 29 of a homily he gave during Mass, Goring decried the use of products developed using cells of aborted children as a kind of complicity with the killing of children.
Goring recalled how King Herod, in fear of the rise of the King of the Jєωs the Magi, came to adore, ordered the killing of children “from a distance”: “He’s not going to hear the cries, he’s not going to see the blood. … And so, too, this industry, this approach that we’re told is expanding — we don’t see it, we don’t hear it, we don’t hear the cries, but we’re kind of complicit with it.”
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Goring noted that the original mainstream “narrative” “was that it was just maybe one or two abortions from the 60s or 70s” used in pharmaceutical products. “But more recently, it’s been acknowledged,” Goring said, that “hundreds” of aborted children have been used to help produce currently used pharmaceuticals.
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“I was talking to a doctor who’s very well aware of this reality of using unborn children to make these products. It’s worse than you imagine,” Goring continued. “I’ll spare you the details, but this is gruesome. It’s horrific. It’s an abomination. It should be outlawed.”
Goring suggested that Christians put pressure on pharmaceutical companies by refusing to use any product that is “abortion-tainted.”
“Money talks,” Goring said. “If you can’t figure out how to make something not abortion tainted, too bad, figure it out. We’re good at figuring things out if we have to.
Goring pointed out in another talk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hots5SlfWWA) that “many pharmaceutical companies are very happy to highlight that there was no animal testing involved in the production of their products.”
“We should have the same respect for the life of unborn children. If consumers demand to know whether or not a product is abortion tainted, we shouldn’t be laughed out of the pharmacy. This is a perfectly legitimate thing to be concerned about.”
In the same way that labels alert consumers as to whether products have been tested on animals, or whether products contain animal products, pharmaceutical products should have labels indicating whether they’ve been tested on the cell lines of unborn children, Goring suggested in his sermon on tainted pharmaceuticals.
“I want to see a little symbol one day that indicates [that] this medication I’m taking, or the product I’m taking is not abortion tainted. Because I don’t want to have anything to do with the taking of the innocent life of a child,” Goring said.
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Strickland, who has frequently (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abortion-tainted-vaccines-are-against-the-catholic-faith/) decried (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bishop-strickland-i-will-not-accept-a-covid-vaccine-derived-from-aborted-babies/) the abortion-tainted COVID “vaccines,” most recently highlighted the failure of bishops in their duty to oppose totalitarian COVID mandates, in an episode of The Bishop Strickland Show.
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 08, 2022, 06:36:10 AM
Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 04, 2022, 02:41:59 PM
Three more articles from (another?) anonymous priest, writing under the pseudonym "Fr. Ambrose Astor," for your consideration:

1) Conscience and Vaccines: https://catacombs.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/misc/Fr._Ambrose_Astor/Ambrosiaster_1_Conscience.pdf

2) Prudence and Vaccines: https://catacombs.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/misc/Fr._Ambrose_Astor/Ambrosiaster_2_Prudence.pdf

3) Charity and Vaccines (Intended for Priests): https://catacombs.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/misc/Fr._Ambrose_Astor/Ambrosiaster_3_Charity.pdf

Fr. Ambrose Astor can be contacted directly here: ambroseastor@protonmail.com

I corresponded with Fr. “Astor,” and here’s how it went:

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Greetings Fr. Astor-

I'm not sure whether you are familiar with the rather surprising lax position the SSPX has taken regarding the moral liceity of the COVID19 "vaccine" (until 2006, they held that under no circuмstances could anyone knowingly receive an abortion-tainted vaccine, but reversed that position after the 2005 PAL docuмent), but in the course of my online opposition to that position, I came across your recent articles on conscience, prudence, and charity relative to the jab, and wondered if you could take a look at the attached letter the SSPX recently published in New Zealand, announcing that the teachers at it's school there would take the "vaccine" in order to keep their school open.

It seems the SSPX is not concerned to meet the requirements for moral liceity contained within the 2008/2020 CDF docuмents (preferring instead to quote from manuals regarding general principles of remote material cooperation in evil generally).

What do you make of the arguments contained in the attached letter, ostensibly permitting the use of abortion-tainted vaccines?

Semper Idem,
Sean Johnson
USA

Fr. “Ambrose Astor’s” response:

Dear Mr Johnson,

Thank you for your message. I am aware of the SSPX position which does indeed sidestep the fundamental issue of the derivation of the vaccines.

I understand the approach of the NZ district, but I cannot approve. It is a terrible thing to have to close a good school because of unjust mandates.

In my humble opinion, it is nevertheless essential that the schools resist, even if they have to close for a time. There are some countries in which the state has backed down eventually. I think it is a lack of faith and putting too much confidence in man.

Disappointing.

God bless you.
Fr Ambrose
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: B from A on January 08, 2022, 08:35:11 AM
Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 04, 2022, 09:20:06 PM
Meanwhile, over in the Novus Ordo:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bp-strickland-id-rather-die-than-benefit-from-anything-produced-by-using-an-aborted-child/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/bp-schneider-theres-a-basic-error-in-vatican-docuмents-on-material-cooperation-with-abortion-tainted-vaccines/ (https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/bp-schneider-theres-a-basic-error-in-vatican-docuмents-on-material-cooperation-with-abortion-tainted-vaccines/)

Bp. Schneider: There’s a ‘basic error’ in Vatican docuмents on ‘material cooperation’ with abortion-tainted vaccines


Cdl. Burke: Forced vaccines violate 'integrity of citizens' - LifeSite (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cdl-burke-forced-vaccines-violate-integrity-of-citizens/)

(https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cdl-burke-forced-vaccines-violate-integrity-of-citizens/)
Cdl. Burke: Forced vaccines violate 'integrity of citizens' - LifeSite
LifeSite
He also added, 'It must be clear that it is never morally justified to develop a vaccine through the use of the ...
(https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cdl-burke-forced-vaccines-violate-integrity-of-citizens/)


COVID shot mandates are 'tyranny' and should be resisted: US bishop - LifeSite (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/covid-shot-mandates-are-tyranny-and-should-be-resisted-us-bishop/)

(https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/covid-shot-mandates-are-tyranny-and-should-be-resisted-us-bishop/)
COVID shot mandates are 'tyranny' and should be resisted: US bishop - Li...
LifeSite
Bishop Strickland detailed what the Catholic Church's official teaching is on vaccine or other mandates of any k...
(https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/covid-shot-mandates-are-tyranny-and-should-be-resisted-us-bishop/)


Bishop Strickland: I will not accept a COVID vaccine derived from aborted babies - LifeSite (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bishop-strickland-i-will-not-accept-a-covid-vaccine-derived-from-aborted-babies/)

(https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bishop-strickland-i-will-not-accept-a-covid-vaccine-derived-from-aborted-babies/)
Bishop Strickland: I will not accept a COVID vaccine derived from aborte...
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'I'm not going to accept a vaccine that has the DNA of aborted children in it,' His Excellency said in his lates...
(https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bishop-strickland-i-will-not-accept-a-covid-vaccine-derived-from-aborted-babies/)


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/california-bishop-warns-catholics-not-to-take-covid-vaccine-connected-in-any-way-to-aborted-babies/ (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/california-bishop-warns-catholics-not-to-take-covid-vaccine-connected-in-any-way-to-aborted-babies/)


California bishop warns Catholics not to take COVID vaccine connected in any way to aborted babies

Exorcist priest: Abortion-tainted vaccines are ‘ongoing theft’ of babies’ bodies (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exorcist-priest-abortion-tainted-vaccines-are-ongoing-theft-of-babies-bodies/)

 (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exorcist-priest-abortion-tainted-vaccines-are-ongoing-theft-of-babies-bodies/)
 (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exorcist-priest-abortion-tainted-vaccines-are-ongoing-theft-of-babies-bodies/)Father Robert Altier rejected the three U.S.-backed coronavirus vaccines in late-stage testing on moral grounds (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/us-bishop-rebukes-priest-over-homily-warning-against-coronavirus-vaccine/)
 (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/us-bishop-rebukes-priest-over-homily-warning-against-coronavirus-vaccine/)
 (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/us-bishop-rebukes-priest-over-homily-warning-against-coronavirus-vaccine/)
 (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/us-bishop-rebukes-priest-over-homily-warning-against-coronavirus-vaccine/)Fr. James Altman urges flock to shun Covid-19 vaccine (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wisconsin-catholic-priest-warns-congregants-against-covid-vaccine-defying-pope-n1265670)
 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wisconsin-catholic-priest-warns-congregants-against-covid-vaccine-defying-pope-n1265670)
 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/wisconsin-catholic-priest-warns-congregants-against-covid-vaccine-defying-pope-n1265670)Towson Catholic priest tells parishioners vaccine mandates go against Jesus’ teachings (https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-county/bs-md-co-priest-vaccine-homily-20211130-px4uu2sw3zf5rmmc2oo6u7ygtq-story.html)
( (https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/baltimore-county/bs-md-co-priest-vaccine-homily-20211130-px4uu2sw3zf5rmmc2oo6u7ygtq-story.html)in some cases, like this last one, the stand isn't so much about the murdered baby cells, but the injustice of mandates, but still, that's better than the official SSPX position which is:  "just cave to the pressure".) 
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: SeanJohnson on January 08, 2022, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: B from A on January 08, 2022, 08:35:11 AM
Father Robert Altier rejected the three U.S.-backed coronavirus vaccines in late-stage testing on moral grounds (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/us-bishop-rebukes-priest-over-homily-warning-against-coronavirus-vaccine/)

I know this priest, and used to go to the Church of St. Agnes where he was then stationed back in the mid-late 1990's during my Novus Ordo days.

The Novus Ordo there was (and still is) in Latin, using the traditional Canon exclusively, with Gregorian chant (and even poliphony), communion rail, on the tongue kneeling, with solemn high Masses which even feature a sub-deacon (which is persona non grata in the Novus Ordo), birettas, and incense.

Its probably the most "conservative" Mass venue in the ccountry, and is a stepping-stone to the indult, and then the SSPX (many people at the local SSPX chapels used to go there).

Doctrinally -unless he has changed since I last spoke with his 20+ years ago- he would be a JPII priest: Good on morals, but a hermeneutic of continuity-BXVI'er doctrinally.

Today, he is now biritual, saying the TLM on the weekends (though I'm not sure how that will continue in the era of TC).

Anyway, I remember when this sermon came out, and how strange I thought it was that the Archbishop smacked him down, going so far as to solicit the refutation of Fr. Altier's sermon by the state health department. 

I remember starting to refute the health department's letter, but than abandoning the project, because it would only result in a worse punishment from the Archbishop if he should continue to debate the matter, or if the public should then start defending him.  Bishops rarely admit they're wrong.

To his credit, Fr. Altier refused the bishop's request to recant/retract his sermon (this was announced by Archbishop Hebda), and he has more or less left him alone since then (or at least, I haven't seen anything in the local Catholic media to indicate otherwise).
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: Incredulous on January 08, 2022, 02:10:17 PM
Quote from: Aleah on January 04, 2022, 06:21:08 PM
Why haven't they gone underground? Did they forget of their Catholic history and catacombs?

Oh yeah, with all the commie-jew action going on there... they needed a plan of public dis-engagement.   It's to the catacombs!  :incense:
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: Incredulous on January 08, 2022, 02:18:34 PM
Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 03, 2022, 07:22:34 PM
Msgr Lefebvre said in 1987, “[t]he future of the Catholic Church and her mission lies in teaching, especially in schools run by priests and religious who preach by word and example,” adding that “[f]or society to be converted, we need Catholic schools.” In 1982 he wrote, “We need Catholic schools where young people will learn to love the Liturgy, Latin and chant, and where they will be formed in a manly and Christian fashion by sacrificing themselves for the love of Jesus Christ under the care and guidance of their heavenly Mother.” We hope to provide you and your children the best Catholic schools we can, especially with the chance to have the perennial Liturgy of the Church given them and learn the sacrificial spirit of Our Lord, even in these challenging and trying circuмstances.

In the face of all of these challenges, we beg your assistance, trust, and your support, especially supernaturally. Be assured we will do whatever we can to support you and your children.

Sincerely in Our Lord, Fr Ian Andrew Palko, FSSPX
Acting Principal


I love how the SSPX priests have been trained to always invoke +ABL in some selected, "out-of-context manner" to justify whatever anti-trad policy they embrace.

We Resistance must cut through the neo-SSPX BS and counter them with +ABL's true spirit:



                    SI SI NO NO
      (https://fsspx.news/sites/sspx/files/media.jpg)     
                  "No Death Vax!"



Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: canis on January 09, 2022, 01:04:00 AM
Others here and elsewhere have more than sufficiently rebutted the SSPX's stance on the vaccination, its morality, and how it plays a pivotal role in the transformation of global governmental power, etc. I would just comment on the following part of the letter:


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We have previously endorsed home schooling when there is a serious reason to do so, but naturally, the Church’s practice has been to encourage proper Catholic schools. Our venerable founder, Msgr Lefebvre, put this task of schooling in our statues just after seminaries, which were the most important work of the SSPX. [...]

There might be long-term consequences for a child’s education to be shifted out of a structured programme to home school, only later to be put back in the school environment having missed out on the curriculum that is followed in that school. That can disrupt a child’s educational progress significantly.


There are four significant problems here, so often seen among unthinking Society priests:

1) that the Church's teaching and tradition suggest that placement of children in a school takes precedence over home education in most circuмstances, otherwise a grave moral failure is committed by the parents;
2) that all traditional Catholic schools are "created equal";
3) that Msgr Lefebvre opposed home schooling;
4) that home education as a rule will have negative long-term consequences and be significantly disruptive of the child's education.

One of the foremost principles of Catholic philosophy of education is contained in the very purpose of matrimony: the procreation and education of offspring. This is the bedrock of education and society. The right and duty of procreation and education belong firstly to the parents, placed upon them by God both on the supernatural and natural orders.

Hence, flowing from this principle as a direct corollary, the traditional Catholic position towards "Catholic schools" is that schools supplement, but do not supplant, home education, especially if the latter is hindered by uncontrollable circuмstances. Teachers stand in proxy for the parents; all of their authority and right to teach is entirely derivative. And even if children are placed in schools, this does not excuse parents from the duty of home education, from an active and close role in their children's upbringing and character formation. In other words, the schools flow out of the insufficiency of the family as an imperfect society, but this specific arrangement of schools as we understand them is an artificial one and one suited for specific purposes, such as standardized education as we have come to understand it in the past 150 years. Indeed, we assume school as a normal part of modern society because this society places such severe strictures on the parents in what should be the normal execution of their duties!

Given the corruption of modern schools as well as the plethora of opportunities to educate children in many different and excellent ways that do not involve a "traditional" school, it seems careless to suggest that there is only one, proper "Church-endorsed" way to school our children given the current situation, specifically the one legislated under Canon Law 100 years ago when circuмstances were quite different than today. That situation is a complex one, canonically, morally, and politically, which warrants a separate discussion, but my criticism here is that the SSPX glosses over all of these and acts as if nothing has changed in 100 years. To default to such a position today would almost suggest that God Himself has built into marriage a modern situation that will almost inevitably lead to grave moral failure, that is, He has placed the duty of educating on parents who in most circuмstances cannot fulfill that duty without recourse to factors beyond their control! To be sure, there is a fine balancing act here since the family is an imperfect society that relies on a community to supplement its own lacks, but the parents first and foremost and as a rule have the best sense of what education each of their children will need based on their temperament, strengths, weaknesses, proclivities, etc. We forget that for most of the history of Christendom, most did not go to universities, nor did they need to, in order to become virtuous, to learn to do their duties well, and save their souls.

As Monsignor Edward Jordan, one of the leading Catholic philosophers of education, wrote 100 years ago exactly: "No other agency, neither school, nor state, nor even Church, except by a miracle of God’s grace, can supply for the neglect of religious training in the home." He wrote this even when Canon Law required that parents support Catholic schools.

The second problem is that not all "Traditional Catholic" schools are created equal. Parents must consider this when deciding how to educate their children. Just because a school calls itself "classical" does not mean it follows true principles of classical education, just as "Jesuit" schools would be rebuked with fire and brimstone if Saint Ignatius were alive today to see them. If a school calls itself "Traditional Catholic" does this excuse the community of due diligence? Who designed the curriculum? How was its progress tracked both among the students and alumni? How is the school environment? What steps have been taken to ensure safety for the children and that staff are properly trained in procedures? What is the vetting process for new teachers? It is clear that many Society schools were started more at the urging of parents rather than a well-directed, central plan from the Society, as Fr Palko might suggest, and many such schools suffer for lack of proper staffing and planning. Is a traditional Catholic school so much better that a young boy of 5 comes home having learned the newest rap song and movie lines from his classmates? Or if a young woman learn a secular, feminist attitude from her peers, or forbid it, her own teachers, all under the "pretenses" of "Traditional Catholic Education"? How many parents have lamented how often their children were exposed to the foul language, the constant talk of video games and superheroes, the degenerate music, the scandalous attitudes, and outside school, the evil recreation, from their "traditional Catholic" school "friends"? Is not the development of moral character a principal aspect of education? Does not this aspect depend on a wholesome educational environment?

Thirdly, Fr Palko must forget that Msgr Lefebvre called for a return to the land whenever possible said, "Yes, you yourselves will make the school for your children! If the schools should corrupt your children, what are you going to do? Deliver them to the corrupters? […] It is inconceivable!" Bishop de Mallerais in his biography of the Archbishop interpreted these words to mean home education! Another instance of the sons of Lefebvre going against their very founder's magnanimous spirit and vision.

Lastly, Fr Palko assumes as a rule that home education will lead to serious disruptions in the child's education and have long-term negative consequences. Unfortunately, Fr Palko must not be paying attention to the now-decades of evidence demonstrating unequivocally that home schooling students, as a rule, are superior to their public and private school counterparts in every metric. Of course, we all have seen and known home school families that perhaps are stretched too thin, who should seek out additional help, or whose children may be "socially awkward" etc. But as the evidence shows, these are more the exception rather than the norm. 

Unfortunately, it seems to me a form of gaslighting by the SSPX to turn around and suggest serious moral failures on the part of "fearful" parents for even thinking about withdrawing their children but then do nothing to stand up to the onslaught of secular, globalist power. Or rather worse, to aid these forces by silence, gaslighting, and producing moral guidance on the "Catholic position" regarding these vaccines that secular forces can use against Catholic employees when seeking an exemption (but who are then told by the SSPX to exercise "prudence"!)
Title: Re: SSPX Letter on the Vaxing of its NZ Teachers
Post by: Incredulous on January 09, 2022, 03:20:21 PM
You have covered the SSPX homeschool schizophrenia subject very well Canis!

The only thing left to do is to debate an SSPX spokesman in a public forum.

I’m guessing they would claim it would be, “beneath their grace of state” to do so.

The SSPX’s education program has been very inconsistent, and as you probably know, they started getting really squirrelly around 2011.

From many accounts, they demonized and ostracized their own home school movement, which had been the bedrock of learning for the SSPX chapel system in North America.

This SSPX educational reform campaign coincided with the purging of the “Williamson nαzιs” and other frumpy, old time trad conservatives.

It also fit nicely into Max Krah’s vision of a rebranded, pro-Semitic TLM group that could adopt to the modern world.