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Re: SSPX invites Fr. Kilcawley Expert on Theology of The Body, from Lincoln, Diocese
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2019, 10:02:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Texana on September 08, 2019, 10:24:53 AM
    It seems that novus ordo Fr Sean has created a cottage industry from sɛҳuąƖ addiction and pornography--a never ending source of income. Look into Set Free Global Summit, Integrity Restored, Avila Institue, and Covenant Eyes. His interviews reveal his own sin through graduate school at the JPII Institute in Rome and how psychologists/therapists helped him where priests did not (see The Regular Catholic Guy Show-"Combating the Destructive Impacts of Pornography with Fr. Sean Kilcawley-023).  Surprise, surprise--he is an authority on Theology of the Body and he uses course, vulgar language at times--he's very trendy with the college Theology on Tap crowds.  
         It seems SSPX priests and laity are totally clueless about the evils of novus ordo thinking and agendas.  Clueless or diabolically influenced?  There is a definite difference from the true Roman Catholic priesthood so treasured by Archbishop Lefebvre protected through his Apostolic succession and the presiders of the novus ordo.

    The SSPX is not deceived about Fr. Kilcawley:

    If it wants in with the conciliar church, it must not only demonstrate to Rome that it can play nice in the sandbox with its former enemies, but even more importantly, “that there no longer be rejection in their hearts.”

    So, while +Huonder celebrates Mass for the SSPX faithful in Switzerland, Fr. Kilcawley makes a maiden voyage to introduce (however restrained) a conciliar approach regarding a real modern problem, to SSPXers.

    Relentlessly, but ever so subtly, these little conciliar advances turn up the temperature on the boiled frogs (who show every sign of enjoying the hot tub).

    Hat-tip to Bishop Fellay (and Fr. Pagliarani), who, learning from Cranmer and Celier, knew just how to orchestrate -patiently, patiently- the reorientation of practically the entire SSPX and its base of faithful.

    There are no protests in St. Mary’s (or anywhere else).

    The SSPX in late 2019 is 99.5% purified of “dissidents,” and the plan to proceed by stages (today, nearly completed) is now on cruise control.
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    Re: SSPX invites Fr. Kilcawley Expert on Theology of The Body, from Lincoln, Diocese
    « Reply #16 on: September 09, 2019, 10:17:46 AM »
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    • Thank you--it seems Renaissance nudity of Our Lord is just perfect for a conference on Catholic families.  No problem.  
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    Re: SSPX invites Fr. Kilcawley Expert on Theology of The Body, from Lincoln, Diocese
    « Reply #17 on: September 09, 2019, 10:25:02 AM »
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    • Thank you for your information--my reply is misplaced.  I remarked to a priest that it couldn't be the foot of Our Lord because it is not perfect and beautiful.  
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    Re: SSPX invites Fr. Kilcawley Expert on Theology of The Body, from Lincoln, Diocese
    « Reply #18 on: September 09, 2019, 02:09:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: X on September 09, 2019, 10:02:58 AM
    The SSPX is not deceived about Fr. Kilcawley:

    If it wants in with the conciliar church, it must not only demonstrate to Rome that it can play nice in the sandbox with its former enemies, but even more importantly, “that there no longer be rejection in their hearts.”

    So, while +Huonder celebrates Mass for the SSPX faithful in Switzerland, Fr. Kilcawley makes a maiden voyage to introduce (however restrained) a conciliar approach regarding a real modern problem, to SSPXers.

    Relentlessly, but ever so subtly, these little conciliar advances turn up the temperature on the boiled frogs (who show every sign of enjoying the hot tub).

    Hat-tip to Bishop Fellay (and Fr. Pagliarani), who, learning from Cranmer and Celier, knew just how to orchestrate -patiently, patiently- the reorientation of practically the entire SSPX and its base of faithful.

    There are no protests in St. Mary’s (or anywhere else).

    The SSPX in late 2019 is 99.5% purified of “dissidents,” and the plan to proceed by stages (today, nearly completed) is now on cruise control.

    Yes, exactly.

    As you say, the conciliar advances of the SSPX turn up the temperature on the boiled frogs. The laity and clergy aren't really even aware of what is going on.

    The SSPX makes sure to criticize a few things such as the New Mass on DICI, so they seem like they are doing what +ABL did, but in reality, they are moving "by littles" toward being part of the conciliar church. I agree with you that Bp. Fellay and Fr. Pagliarani know just how to orchestrate the reorientation of practically the entire SSPX and its base faithful.

    I did a google search yesterday for the old Angelqueen forum. It appears that Angelqueen is now on a facebook format. One of the rules of the Angelqueen facebook site is that no one is allowed to mention or discuss the possible reconciliation of the SSPX towards Rome. I'm not on facebook, so I can't access much on that site. It's unfortunate that John Grasmeier has bought into the SSPX party line.
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    Re: SSPX invites Fr. Kilcawley Expert on Theology of The Body, from Lincoln, Diocese
    « Reply #19 on: September 09, 2019, 04:12:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: Texana on September 09, 2019, 10:25:02 AM

    I remarked to a priest that it couldn't be the foot of Our Lord because it is not perfect and beautiful.  

    I would suggest that piety is somewhat misdirected if it asserts that Our Lord's foot was necessarily "perfect and beautiful," presumably with respect to how those terms are regularly used in a normal human context. A beautiful foot is almost invariably a pampered, cosseted foot, and Our Lord used his feet to the limits of His human strength during the years of His public ministry and probably in the preceding years, too. Indeed, it is hard to conceive of them as appearing anything other than bruised and calloused.

    The abuse visited upon Our Lord's body by His tormentors during His Passion might in a sense be seen as merely an extreme instance of the travails He had willingly endured beforehand, all for the sake of our redemption.
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    « Reply #20 on: September 09, 2019, 08:16:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: claudel on September 09, 2019, 04:12:36 PM
    I would suggest that piety is somewhat misdirected if it asserts that Our Lord's foot was necessarily "perfect and beautiful," presumably with respect to how those terms are regularly used in a normal human context. A beautiful foot is almost invariably a pampered, cosseted foot, and Our Lord used his feet to the limits of His human strength during the years of His public ministry and probably in the preceding years, too. Indeed, it is hard to conceive of them as appearing anything other than bruised and calloused.

    The abuse visited upon Our Lord's body by His tormentors during His Passion might in a sense be seen as merely an extreme instance of the travails He had willingly endured beforehand, all for the sake of our redemption.
    These were precisely my thoughts, Claudel.
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    Re: SSPX invites Fr. Kilcawley Expert on Theology of The Body, from Lincoln, Diocese
    « Reply #21 on: September 10, 2019, 10:15:03 PM »
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    • I am shocked and saddened that Angelus Press has to resort to sensationalism of this type.  Are there no priests within the sspx to 'recruit'?  Why get an 'expert' in the Theology of the Body, when the Angelus Press has condemned the subject in its own articles?  

    A few quick views of the readily available videos from this speaker, highlights the following.  I make these comments because the videos are available to a global, public audience.  In the old days, the announcement would have been in a printed version, and people would have immediately written letters to the editor, some of which would have been printed:

    Firstly, this poor novus ordo priest repeatedly denigrates the Rosary, Holy Hour and even the DIVINE OFFICE.   He says that those have NO JOY who pray the Rosary, pray Holy Hours and pray the Divine Office.  How would he know?  Rash judgement is a curse.  Unless one has gone around the globe like Santa, and personally interviewed every religious, priest and member of the Faithful - how would you know who has joy or not?  But joy, it seems, comes from discussing sɛҳuąƖ perversion.  

    Secondly, he has a conviction that God the Son does not 'give' anything to His Father?  I'm no theologian, but this sounds not right to me.

    Thirdly, he repeatedly implies that the Holy Family comes from a sinful family line.  This is crazy.  The Blessed Virgin Mary was IMMACULATE, and St. Joseph, whose genealogy is given in Holy Scripture, was Our Lord's foster father.

    What Traditional Catholics need is some fire and brimstone from the pulpits and the enforcing of the dress code everywhere.   Mothers who refuse to give up their vane ways, should not be surprised if their sons fall into immorality.  Scandalous bad example from a parent will result in the children developing addictions and vices that seem totally unrelated to the bad example.  

    Will the audience at the Angelus Press Conference be treated to this series of slides?

    This priest speaks gibberish at best, and needs our prayers, fasting and penance.  






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    Re: SSPX invites Fr. Kilcawley Expert on Theology of The Body, from Lincoln, Diocese
    « Reply #22 on: September 11, 2019, 10:58:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 09, 2019, 09:44:25 AM
    Bizarre and perverted ... not unlike Christopher West.  He claims that all the people who were about to stone the "woman caught in adultery" (Mary Magdalene) were looking at her with lust.  His take, evidently, is that she was dragged out into the street naked and those picking up stones lusted after her.  Typical Christopher West-like perversion.  He has no business addressing Catholic youth.
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    Not Mary Magdalene !!!
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    « Reply #23 on: September 11, 2019, 11:03:29 AM »
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    • This is just part of the process to get SSPXers used to Novus Ordo thinking.
    Because most of us know what Fellay is doing, and he never gives up.
    The water is approaching boiling temperture.  Jump now to save your soul.
    The "agreement" may never be signed, because it does not have to be as the
    SSPX is doing what Rome wants anyway.
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    « Reply #24 on: September 11, 2019, 11:14:08 AM »
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    • Here is a sample of Kilcawley.  Is this Catholic or Protestant?  I can't tell which.
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    « Reply #25 on: September 11, 2019, 11:21:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: apollo on September 11, 2019, 10:58:51 AM
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    Not Mary Magdalene !!!
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    That's the Modernist position.  Even Kilcawley thinks it's probably St. Mary Magdalene.  Church Fathers traditionally held this woman to have been Mary Magdalene.
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    « Reply #26 on: September 11, 2019, 11:22:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: apollo on September 11, 2019, 11:14:08 AM
    Here is a sample of Kilcawley.  Is this Catholic or Protestant?  I can't tell which.
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    Made it to 16 seconds - definitely protestant.
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    « Reply #27 on: September 11, 2019, 11:42:52 AM »
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    • Instead of co-Ed immodest Theology of body sex education maybe they should teach basic catechism.   It seems many young people don’t know the faith and if they do they don’t live it.  

    First of all, Catholics don’t have sex.  They make love. 
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    « Reply #28 on: September 11, 2019, 12:03:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: apollo on September 11, 2019, 11:14:08 AM
    Here is a sample of Kilcawley.  Is this Catholic or Protestant?  I can't tell which.
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    Well, he quotes Francis and John Paul II a lot ... so, Protestant.   :laugh1:

    Actually, there's a lot of decent content there mixed in with the bad.  Why can't a Traditional priest distill this and re-present it through a Traditional Catholic lense?
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    « Reply #29 on: September 11, 2019, 12:07:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 11, 2019, 11:21:11 AM
    That's the Modernist position.  Even Kilcawley thinks it's probably St. Mary Magdalene.  Church Fathers traditionally held this woman to have been Mary Magdalene.
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    It's NOT Mary Magdalene.  Private revelation says it's NOT.
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    The Bible does not say who it is.  What's modernist about
    having it be another woman ?
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    Why does every adulterous woman in the Bible have to be
    Mary Magdalene ? 
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    Church fathers can be wrong on matters not pertaining to the Faith.
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