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Re: SSPX Implies Pre-2017 Marriages Invalid
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2019, 02:27:03 PM »
The entire thread is all very enlightening, thank you Sean.


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The writings of Fathers Pfluger, Simoulin, Schmidberger, and others corroborate that thought: It is the SSPX hierarchy who is torn by doubts, not the average layman in the pews. We wonder whether this assignment of doubt to the laity over the validity of SSPX marriages is really their own psychological projection, though they dare not admit it.  Have 20 years of gravely imprudent contacts convinced them of their own defectiveness, and of a conviction that their symptoms (i.e., doubt) can only be cured by a practical accord ,even if it means coming under the thumb of heretical bishops, cardinals, and pope?

We think so.
The doubt should be with the Novus Ordo sect and their doubtful new formula for consecrating bishops and their new ordination rite. "Pope" Bergolio may not even be as priest! The SSPX hierarchy have sold out and become just hirelings, the proof is that they are enthusiastically continuing with the rallying to join the Vatican II sect EVEN under a totally wacked out heretic like Bergolio.

Re: SSPX Implies Pre-2017 Marriages Invalid
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2019, 10:14:21 PM »
So if marriages, which the spouses confer upon one another, are now considered invalid if done without a local Bishop’s approval, what of Confessions, Confirmations, Baptisms?  How can a person possibly recall ALL of his sins before 2015 in order to reconfess them?  What of all those now useless Confirmations and God-forbid, sacrilegious communions?  All the people who find themselves bastards, irreparably if their parents are no longer living to correct their vows?  What about those who died having been given false rites by men who weren’t priests because the bishop who ordained them, if not Archbishop Lefebvre, was not a real bishop?
I know of several people, despite leading upstanding Catholic lives, were born, lived, and buried under the ministrations of the SSPX.  Does the NewSociety say they are all burning in Hell if they ever committed one mortal sin and lacked perfect Contrition?  It would have been better for them that they had never been born.

If the Society now says this, they should shut themselves down, laicize all the religious, and hand over everything they own to Rome, IMMEDIATELY!

As for the tens of thousands of ruined souls, if not already in Hell, they may as live it up while still on earth as the New Church won’t help them get back into a state of Grace.  I’m not sure the average millennial in the novus ordo is even familiar with that phrase, “state of Grace.”  

It indeed appears that the Society wants to drive away all who wish to save their souls.  Fr. Pagliarini should rename the Society after Esau, willing to sell his soul for a bowl of pottage.  

And where should the few souls go who refuse to listen to the advice of Job’s wife, “Curse God and die.”  The large majority of the world have nowhere to turn and no one to give them the Faith, the Mass, the Sacraments.  

Sorry, but I always become sad on Sunday.  :'(





Re: SSPX Implies Pre-2017 Marriages Invalid
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2019, 06:00:37 AM »
Will they do the same to all Confessions prior to 2015? Or just line everybody up for general Confession? Or send them down the road to the NO? We all remember that couple who married before the NO presbyter ...

Re: SSPX Implies Pre-2017 Marriages Invalid
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2019, 06:17:30 AM »
Interestingly, this year's ecuмenical Angelus Press conference is on the defense of marriage.

I would like to ask them how they will choose to defend the validity of their pre-2017 marriages, when in 2019 they require a sanatio in radice of marriages performed without the diocesan delegation.

Apparently, the state of necessity ended sometime in 2017?

Fr. Knittel says as much, when he argues "the state of necessity recedes."

You see, as the SSPX sells out to get a deal, it means there is no more necessity for them, or you.

No compromise though!

Re: SSPX Implies Pre-2017 Marriages Invalid
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2019, 06:21:06 AM »
The Angelus Press conference with a Novus Ordo priest none the less, talking about internet dangers, because we haven't heard enough never to look at the internet. Finally, a doctrinal discussion break through!