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Offline SeanJohnson

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Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2019, 09:47:24 PM »
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  • I'd say them's pretty good answers, partna'.   :applause:
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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #61 on: May 07, 2019, 01:20:12 AM »
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  • If your kid falls into a pond or lake, you're going to wish he got swimming lessons.

    Let's not be puritanical here.
    Standard swimming lessons are not focused on life-saving techniques. You'll know you've found the right sort of swim lessons when the instructor requires the students to enter the water in their normal attire. (If you've never seen this, yes, it does exist -- we have some of these sort of instructors around here.)
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    If you don't plan on ever wearing a standard American bathing suit, why would you practice life-saving skills while wearing one? Better to know how to save yourself when you fall into water wearing a long skirt for the girls or pants for the boys.
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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #62 on: May 07, 2019, 01:29:35 PM »
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    Standard swimming lessons are not focused on life-saving techniques. You'll know you've found the right sort of swim lessons when the instructor requires the students to enter the water in their normal attire. (If you've never seen this, yes, it does exist -- we have some of these sort of instructors around here.)
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    If you don't plan on ever wearing a standard American bathing suit, why would you practice life-saving skills while wearing one? Better to know how to save yourself when you fall into water wearing a long skirt for the girls or pants for the boys.

    Most people in America don't have the privilege of getting swimming lessons with normal attire on their bodies. If a person goes to their local swimming lessons place and demands the intructor teach the class to swim with pants, skirts and shoes, he's going to get denied.

    So does the parent not have their kids learn how to swim? What if the dad is too busy with work to teach them? Not enough income to have their to own deep swimming pool? The wife shouldn't left alone to teach the kids to swim outside of the home. So do the kids go through life not knowing how to swim and risk drowning if they fall into a deep body of water? All because SSPX's version of swimming is too "naked"?

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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #63 on: May 07, 2019, 01:33:07 PM »
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  • Most people in America don't have the privilege of getting swimming lessons with normal attire on their bodies. If a person goes to their local swimming lessons place and demands the intructor teach the class to swim with pants, skirts and shoes, he's going to get denied.

    So does the parent not have their kids learn how to swim? What if the dad is too busy with work to teach them? Not enough income to have their to own deep swimming pool? The wife shouldn't left alone to teach the kids to swim outside of the home. So do the kids go through life not knowing how to swim and risk drowning if they fall into a deep body of water? All because SSPX's version of swimming is too "naked"?

    Don't hang out on or near the ocean and you'll be fine.

    Oceanfront and lakefront property is several times more expensive anyhow. It's a luxury most Catholics can forego. If eternal life is a priority, that is.

    If you're going to be a sailor for a living, then yes, learn how to swim. Most people live inland (and ON LAND) all their lives. I'm not going to be dropping into a large deep body of water any time soon. I never learned how to swim and it hasn't been a problem for me yet.

    Like I said early in this thread -- Americans think children are defective or deprived if they A) can't swim and B) don't regularly swim in a large pool. Why? We're human beings, not fish. Get a kiddie pool or one of those family sized above-ground pools for a few hundred dollars if you MUST experience being surrounded by water. Everyone can afford that.

    If you are too busy to teach them to float, swim, etc. in your $300 backyard above-ground pool, then they aren't likely to need to know how to swim anyhow. You're obviously too busy. 
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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #64 on: May 07, 2019, 01:41:21 PM »
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    Don't hang out on the ocean and you'll be fine.


    OK, so the millions of "Catholics" who live along the coasts and near rivers, lakes and ponds should avoid those bodies of water like the plague. Don't come within 20 feet of it. If you're commuting on foot or a bike with other people, you must stop and turn around if you come across a bridge or the path comes too close to the water. And too avoid any possibility of drowning, all of these "Catholics" should move more inland and farther away from rivers and lakes. Gotcha.


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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #65 on: May 07, 2019, 01:42:59 PM »
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    If a person goes to their local swimming lessons place and demands the intructor teach the class to swim with pants, skirts and shoes, he's going to get denied.
    No swim instructor is going to turn away a child who is wearing shorts and one of those athletic t-shirts.  If they do, then find someone else.  If every swim instructor within 20 miles of you won't teach your child, and you can't team them yourself, then take it as God's will the child isn't meant to learn how to swim...for now. 

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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #66 on: May 07, 2019, 01:49:37 PM »
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  • OK, so the millions of "Catholics" who live along the coasts and near rivers, lakes and ponds should avoid those bodies of water like the plague. Don't come within 20 feet of it. If you're commuting on foot or a bike with other people, you must stop and turn around if you come across a bridge or the path comes too close to the water. And too avoid any possibility of drowning, all of these "Catholics" should move more inland and farther away from rivers and lakes. Gotcha.
    Your argument is invalid.
    I never had to act thus paranoid and I'm doing just fine. Haven't drowned yet. Just proves your alarmist stance is invalid and just trying to justify immodesty in swimwear.

    P.S. If you live on one of the coasts, in Minnesota "land of 10,000 lakes", or some other area with tons of ponds, swamps, a large river close to your house, etc. there's no one saying you can't learn how to swim or teach your kids how to swim. You just have to do so modestly. When there's a will, there's a way. Anything else is a lame excuse.

    P.P.S. You can't avoid all suffering or risk of death, especially when sinful means are required to do so.
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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #67 on: May 07, 2019, 01:53:31 PM »
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  • I never learned how to swim and it hasn't been a problem for me yet.

    May 8th, 2019:  Texas Man Drowns in Shallow Pond, Unable to Swim Say Friends

    LOL

    I can't really swim either, just dog paddle a bit ... and I too still live.


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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #68 on: May 07, 2019, 01:56:12 PM »
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    And too avoid any possibility of drowning, all of these "Catholics" should move more inland and farther away from rivers and lakes. Gotcha.
    The end does not justify the means.  If you want your child to learn to swim, then pray about it.  God will not bless you if you obtain anything worldly through sinful means.

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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #69 on: May 07, 2019, 01:59:28 PM »
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  • The end does not justify the means.  If you want your child to learn to swim, then pray about it.  God will not bless you if you obtain anything worldly through sinful means.

    Exactly.

    What doth it profit a man if he lives a long life (escaping drowning by using his swimming skills 1+ times) and loses his immortal soul because of impurity?

    Priorities.

    Seriously, I wonder how many souls have been lost, how many bad habits started, how many bad marriages began or developed, because of "love of the water".
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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #70 on: May 07, 2019, 02:02:27 PM »
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  • The end does not justify the means.  If you want your child to learn to swim, then pray about it.  God will not bless you if you obtain anything worldly through sinful means.

    So, if I drown due to my not having learned to swim to safeguard my virtue, would that make me a martyr?


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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #71 on: May 07, 2019, 02:06:55 PM »
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  • So, if I drown due to my not having learned to swim to safeguard my virtue, would that make me a martyr?
    By NuChurch standards, absolutely.
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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #72 on: May 07, 2019, 02:08:24 PM »
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  • Where's the "immodesty" in the SSPX swimming? They're much more coverd than adults and kids at other swimming events and venues.
    Lots of puritanicals here.

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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #73 on: May 07, 2019, 02:13:27 PM »
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  • What are you going to do when one of your kids falls into a deep body of water, but you don't know how to swim? You're going to die. That's what you're going to do.

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    Re: SSPX Immodesty Down Under
    « Reply #74 on: May 07, 2019, 02:17:12 PM »
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  • By NuChurch standards, absolutely.

    Except that NuChurch is ANTI-modesty.  Christopher West goes out their and routinely mocks people (including saints) who keep/kept custody of the eyes.

     

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