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Author Topic: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"  (Read 33489 times)

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Re: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2026, 06:25:02 PM »
+Bp.s Fellay and Garaletta need to practice this fully vested, holding croziers and wearing mitres.  The scroungy tank top and shorts would be undignified.


Re: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2026, 06:45:23 PM »
+Bp.s Fellay and Garaletta need to practice this fully vested, holding croziers and wearing mitres.  The scroungy tank top and shorts would be undignified.
You've lost me here.  Practice what?  And where did the tank top and shorts come in to the discussion?


Re: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2026, 08:19:58 PM »
You've lost me here.  Practice what?  And where did the tank top and shorts come in to the discussion?


Sorry! Am in fingers to 12 year old tablet combat. Picture wouldn’t copy.
The SSPX needs to get new leaders and BACKPEDAL to their fighting spirit of the 1980’s and 1990’s.  But they’ll probably have to use the bishops they have left. 
+Bp. Fellay is probably still young enough to perform the stunt. His Excellency is good at maneuvering. +Bp. Garaletta? I’m not at all sure. I’ve heard his health isn’t that great. Maybe two husky deacons can hold him steady like Aaron and Hur held Moses’s arms up while battling the Amalekites. 

Re: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2026, 06:40:40 AM »
I came across this article today:

https://infovaticana.com/en/2026/01/08/the-fsspx-does-not-rule-out-new-episcopal-consecrations-even-without-a-pontifical-mandate/

But when +Williamson consecrated +Faure, they said this:

Are the SSPX members putting pressure on the leadership? Or is the SSPX trying to put pressure on the Vatican? If they are serious about considering consecrating bishops without a pontifical mandate, they should apologize to the "resistance" and all the bishops consecrated by + Williamson. But they won't consecrate because they would loose all the conservatives they have gained from their compromise.
I think its internally consistent even though its a different principle than you hold to.

SSPX Resistance believes there's *Technically* a Pope but for all practical intents and purposes there is not a pope.  In other words, no papal approval is needed for things like consecrations... ever

Mainstream SSPX Is more like Lefebvre in 1980 or so.  Mainstream SSPX believes consecrations without papal approval are justified *only* as a last resort.  Only if they would be left without any bishops otherwise.  So when SSPX already had three bishops who were significantly younger, they thought Williamson doing consecrations was unnecessary, but in 2025 with Bishop Tissier and Williamson dead, there might be more of an absolute necessity to consecrate bishops.

I don't see this position as inherently more absurd than anything else.  I think *all* of you have serious problems with Vatican I, but I'm not gonna hijack the forum arguing that point.

Re: SSPX hinting they will "Consecrate"
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2026, 09:19:48 AM »
I think its internally consistent even though its a different principle than you hold to.

SSPX Resistance believes there's *Technically* a Pope but for all practical intents and purposes there is not a pope.  In other words, no papal approval is needed for things like consecrations... ever

Mainstream SSPX Is more like Lefebvre in 1980 or so.  Mainstream SSPX believes consecrations without papal approval are justified *only* as a last resort.  Only if they would be left without any bishops otherwise.  So when SSPX already had three bishops who were significantly younger, they thought Williamson doing consecrations was unnecessary, but in 2025 with Bishop Tissier and Williamson dead, there might be more of an absolute necessity to consecrate bishops.

I don't see this position as inherently more absurd than anything else.  I think *all* of you have serious problems with Vatican I, but I'm not gonna hijack the forum arguing that point.


Was the consecration of Bishop Rangel (RIP) in 1991 a "last resort"?