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Offline Machabees

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SSPX gratitude: for the past, or for the future?
« on: November 11, 2013, 07:03:14 PM »
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  • While the Ecclesia Dei indult community is grateful for the worship of the Traditional Roman Rite, the SSPX extends itself to be grateful for the modernist Rite of "worship".

    As it shows again in a recent TheRecusant.com article "More Proof of the Slide: "The Flying Squirrel"", ecuмenism is the natural result for the wishful integration of the SSPX with conciliar Rome.

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    http://www.therecusant.com/apps/blog/show/35337430-more-proof-of-the-slide-the-flying-squirrel-

    In his recent letter from Asia (see Recusant 11), Fr. Chazal wrote about:

        "...the new Indian bulletin of the XSPX, called “The Flying Squirrel”(?) that sports a sermon of pope Francis on page two and three. In it the Pope makes a bad exegesis of Luke chapter nine and praises the arch-Communist Fr. Arrupe, SJ. who even gave sleepless night to Paul VI. In the past we never published the homilies of John Paul II, even a so called good one. The news section praises the World Youth Day, the Opus Dei volunteers teaching the good news of football, the Jesuit center for human rights, a Pentecostal minister arrested for his Pentecostal faith, the bishop of Cochin for opening a Novus Ordo radio... so I asked it to be scanned and put on the internet."

    A photo-scan of the entire newsletter, which is in English, is now online and can be read. The reader will find it on Avec l'Immaculee. See for yourself, it is every bit as bad as Fr. Chazal reports.

    http://aveclimmaculee.blogspot.fr/2013/11/un-journal-accordiste-et-liberal-de-la.html

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    SSPX gratitude: for the past, or for the future?
    « Reply #1 on: November 11, 2013, 09:46:22 PM »
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    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    SSPX gratitude: for the past, or for the future?
    « Reply #2 on: November 12, 2013, 06:53:02 AM »
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  • "Death by a thousand paper cuts" as some would say.  Not me, however.  The April 15, 2012 Doctrinal Declaration and the Six Conditions are death by the guillotine.

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    SSPX gratitude: for the past, or for the future?
    « Reply #3 on: November 12, 2013, 02:39:33 PM »
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  • I have avoided the somewhat nuanced discussion on Cath Info.

    I'm not surprised with this. Apart from the "keyboard warriors" fighting it out on Cath Info very few if any will read this information.

    I was often accosted by SSPX laity promoting the rag 'Alive'. 'Alive' follows the JPII Catholicism. A NewChurch publication from Ireland.

    The SSPX no longer fights against Modernism,Jєωs and the Modern World.

    Why good Catholics remain in SSPX chapels and slowly drink the poison is beyond me?

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    SSPX gratitude: for the past, or for the future?
    « Reply #4 on: November 12, 2013, 02:46:52 PM »
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  • In Ireland the SSPX bent down to International Jєωry.


    http://revisionistreview.blogspot.ie/2010/04/some-questions-for-hierarchy-of-society.html
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    http://ireland.sspx.net/miscellaneous/note.htm
    "Recent events make it necessary to say a word about the Jєωιѕн genocide.

    We want to stress that all the members of the Society in Ireland condemn as false, offensive, and unacceptable any form of anti-Semitism, including the denial or minimization of the Jєωιѕн genocide during World War II. For us it is beyond discussion that a systematic and organized evil plan of persecution and extermination of the Jєωιѕн race took place during the nαzι regime"


    And what happened then.

    http://revisionistreview.blogspot.ie/2010/04/some-questions-for-hierarchy-of-society.html
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    In regard to the notice on the Irish District website it should be noted that the District Superior (a Spaniard who had relatives who fought for the Anarchist butchers against Catholicism during the cινιℓ ωαr; they subsequently died in German labour camps during WWII) ordered that his notice be read out from the pulpit of every SSPX church in Ireland when he produced the statement one year or so ago.

    After its first reading-out, at a particular church, the news spread across Ireland so quickly that queues of protesting faithful lined up to literally besiege the priests in other parts of the country with complaints and remonstrations.

    Consequently the notice was not read out at several of the churches in Ireland.

    All the priests are foreign but the Irish are no fools.

    The British District of SSPX and its faithful are not fools either. The attempted pacifying of the тαℓмυdists and the outrageous and disgraceful way that Bishop Williamson has been treated by a few of his confreres is utterly rejected throughout the District.

    Neither are the great bulk of French or Italians taken in by this scandalous attempt to kowtow to the тαℓмυdic power.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 12, 2013, 02:59:32 PM »
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  • The inclination to fight is just not there among the bulk of the priests and laity.

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    SSPX gratitude: for the past, or for the future?
    « Reply #6 on: November 12, 2013, 03:02:54 PM »
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  • So it seems the SSPX is now a slave to the Jєωs just as the conciliar church is, or at least its leaders are. :really-mad2:

    Every time anyone mentions the Jєωs for any reason, they should add: "and all Jєωs go to hell unless they reject their lies and convert."
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    « Reply #7 on: November 12, 2013, 03:08:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    So it seems the SSPX is now a slave to the Jєωs just as the conciliar church is, or at least its leaders are. :really-mad2:



    As the banned forum member Telesphorus stated, you can hardly regard the SSPX as being anti Zionist.

    The business partner of the Superior General appearing at Zionist fundraisers. He boasted on Ignis Ardens, he would do it all again.


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    « Reply #8 on: November 12, 2013, 03:11:14 PM »
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  • The problem I have is the likes of 'StBrigidswell' even aware the SSPX removed the writings of Fr Denis Fahey from their websites?

    I don't mean to single 'StBrigidswell' out but this forum member did state he/she only became aware of certain material in October.



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    « Reply #9 on: November 12, 2013, 03:14:43 PM »
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  • I believe it was Ecclesia Militans, who stated the SSPX "are toast". It's disingenuous and a lie to state the Church of Bishop Fellay continues the work of Archbishop Lefebvre.

    They are not fighting Modernism.

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    SSPX gratitude: for the past, or for the future?
    « Reply #10 on: November 12, 2013, 03:17:23 PM »
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    They are not fighting Modernism.


    Hopefully more priests will leave the SSPX and join the resistance and start fighting again.
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    « Reply #11 on: November 12, 2013, 03:18:39 PM »
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  • Even Bishop Williamson stated in the sermon at the new seminary that many good priests of the SSPX are now sliding.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 12, 2013, 03:19:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
    I have avoided the somewhat nuanced discussion on Cath Info.

    I'm not surprised with this. Apart from the "keyboard warriors" fighting it out on Cath Info very few if any will read this information.

    I was often accosted by SSPX laity promoting the rag 'Alive'. 'Alive' follows the JPII Catholicism. A NewChurch publication from Ireland.

    The SSPX no longer fights against Modernism,Jєωs and the Modern World.

    Why good Catholics remain in SSPX chapels and slowly drink the poison is beyond me?


    Maybe because some people need sacraments and they have valid priest? Sedevacantist have resolved this issue long ago, quit having a Novatianist understanding of the Church or even worse Donatistic attitude and Jansenistic tendencies. If the SSPX is still Catholic, then one cannot in conscience not attend despite their egregious errors. As a sedevacantist myself who has gone to the SSPX since 1996 (started young at circa age 10), I will recourse to their sacraments. This is because of my baptismal right of having sacraments. Unless we have no more valid priest left, then it is understandable that we cannot attend, but then the obligation to attend mass would cease. Pretty simple, I wish that you can be able to see that.

    This is not Sola SSPX salvation... The SSPX was and could never constitute the Catholic Church, sure a good majority of true Catholics are probably of a SSPX orientation but that does not = the Catholic Church. There are still many outside of the SSPX that have the true faith, however few there might be left, some Catholics among the Conciliarist schismatic Churches. We must not presume bad will upon people, we have to be patient and hope that in God's good time they can be converted back to their actual roots. There are some people who are vincibly ignorant and to these they have lost the faith, we don't doubt this for one second. They want to participate and be members of this new religion... To these of course we can break communion, but we must be careful in the way we approach things. This is important for the resistance, SV'ist and any Catholic that has still kept the remnants of the faith wherever they might be. Pray that these days be shortened for the longer this happens this will certainly have a disastrous effect upon souls. The Lord knows best and we pray that this just punishment might be shortened if it is of course for our own eternal welfare.

    P.S. I am not debating the pope issue, just saying the spirit in which we should approach the crisis of the Church. With both truth and charity always in mind, keeping the bonds of faith and unity.

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    « Reply #13 on: November 12, 2013, 03:30:31 PM »
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    Maybe because some people need sacraments and they have valid priest? Sedevacantist have resolved this issue long ago, quit having a Novatianist understanding of the Church or even worse Donatistic attitude and Jansenistic tendencies. If the SSPX is still Catholic, then one cannot in conscience not attend despite their egregious errors. As a sedevacantist myself who has gone to the SSPX since 1996 (started young at circa age 10), I will recourse to their sacraments. This is because of my baptismal right of having sacraments. Unless we have no more valid priest left, then it is understandable that we cannot attend, but then the obligation to attend mass would cease. Pretty simple, I wish that you can be able to see that.


    I do indeed see this.

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    This is not Sola SSPX salvation... The SSPX was and could never constitute the Catholic Church, sure a good majority of true Catholics are probably of a SSPX orientation but that does not = the Catholic Church. There are still many outside of the SSPX that have the true faith, however few there might be left, some Catholics among the Conciliarist schismatic Churches


    True.

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    We must not presume bad will upon people, we have to be patient and hope that in God's good time they can be converted back to their actual roots.


    As far as I can see it is more a lack of awareness on the part of the SSPX laity.

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    « Reply #14 on: November 12, 2013, 03:33:16 PM »
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    Maybe because some people need sacraments and they have valid priest?


    There are over 75 Resistance Chapels or Mass Centres. It's not necessary to remain assisting at an SSPX chapel/Mass Centre.

    Also in Ireland, Sedeprivationism is catered for with visiting clergy.