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Offline Quo Vadis Petre

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SSPX going to mainstream recreation parks!
« on: March 08, 2013, 06:03:45 PM »
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    • Is this how the SSPX now recreates? Is it normal for the priests and other clerics to relax like this?!!
    http://sspx.org/chapel_news/sanford_fl_3-8-2013/sanford_fl_3-8-2013.htm

     Sanford priory and the importance of community life

    SANFORD, FL
    3-8-2013

    We present here some pictures of a recent recreational outing taken at Sea World in Orlando, Florida by priests from St. Thomas More Priory in Sanford and some visiting clergy.

    The event occurred on Monday, February with visiting priest, Fr. David Pagliarani, the seminary rector at La Reja, Argentina, and a visiting deacon, Rev. Baquerizo (attending the La Reja seminary) and seminarian, Mr. Joshua hαɾɾιson (from the Winona seminary). The day was not only spent viewing the aquatic wonders of God's creation, but also experiencing His natural law of gravity... via a roller coaster!

    In conjunction with these images, we also offer a short piece on the importance of living in common for the priests of the Society of St. Pius X.

    Text and photos courtesy of Fr. Leo Haynos.



    From left to right: seminarian, Mr. Joshua hαɾɾιson, Fr. Louis Alessio,
    Fr. David Pagliarani, Fr. Marc Vernoy (the prior at Sanford),
    Fr. Leo Haynos and deacon, Rev. Baquerizo

    The importance of community life in the SSPX

        We have to say it: the world and its continual temptations are lying in ambush for our priests. They are living in a dangerous, difficult environment… The solution is for priests to live in community in a priory.

        It is useless having an apostolate if the interior life is gone… the life of community and the interior life take priority over the apostolate. It is obvious.

        If our priories disappeared, there would be no more Society... The existence of our Society rests essentially on our priories, on that life in community; that life which is a little bit cloistered… protected from the world… the role of our priories is absolutely vital for our Society and they are the future of the Church, because of the life of prayer that reigns there.

        When visitors, and especially priests, come to one of our houses, they have to sense an atmosphere of gaiety, of simplicity, of concord; of firm attachment to the truth, but also goodness, charity, indulgence, openness of heart toward those who come to visit, in order to bring them closer to our Lord. (Extracts from Priestly Holiness by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre)

    "A joyful spirit attains to perfection more quickly than any other." St. Philip Neri
       


    As Archbishop Lefebvre very clearly states, the community life is of the utmost importance for the members of the Society of St. Pius X.

    God made man social by nature, and the Archbishop shows a very good grasp of human nature in these passages quoted. As he points out, common prayer is by far the most important aspect of community life. It nourishes the priest’s interior life and is the powerhouse which gives fruit to his apostolate, but it is not only this which our Founder speaks of when he emphasizes the necessity of community life. Meals in common, speaking and recreating together are also of great importance.



    Community life provides a set structure for one’s life. The priests must do certain things at certain times, and the fact that everybody else is doing so helps them.

    Being a man, a priest needs to take recreation occasionally, to renew and refresh his body and soul. If he is behind in his work he may want to put this off far longer than he should in order to catch up. Or he may feel lazy and want to take more recreation than necessary. If everybody recreates at a certain time, both of these dangers are lessened.



    A good community life is extraordinarily helpful to a priest to help him stay faithful. Constantly bombarded by the world he feels very much alone. Yet men are social, and he needs company he can enjoy; if he cannot find it with his fellow priests, he will look for it elsewhere.

    The priory is a home for priests, and as such is much the same as the family home. Married women are often told: if you do not make your home such that your husband looks forward to returning to it, he may go looking elsewhere. Upon returning to the priory the priest must "sense an atmosphere of gaiety, of simplicity, of concord."

    Priests have in them both Divine and human elements. The Divine element is helped in this by common prayer and the interior life. The human side is helped most especially by community recreations.
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    Offline Mithrandylan

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    « Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 06:17:45 PM »
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    • I must say, I don't see the big deal.

    If done at the behest of something more important or if funds were used that should have been directed towards something else, I can see arguments.  Part of having a Catholic culture is having priest's in public.  I don't know anything about sea world or anything but it doesn't seem like an objectionable place to visit.  I am open to being convinced otherwise.
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    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 06:38:15 PM »
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    • I question whether it is befitting the dignity of a priest to ride roller coasters.

    I enjoyed roller coasters as a young teenager.  I haven't had the desire to ride them since.
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    Offline Quo Vadis Petre

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    « Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 06:55:17 PM »
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    • Well, I guess you may be right, Mit, but nonethless i feel uneasy about such things!
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    Offline Zeitun

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    « Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 06:56:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo Vadis Petre
    an atmosphere of gaiety


    Indeed.
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    « Reply #5 on: March 08, 2013, 06:57:14 PM »
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    • I wouldn't say it's wrong per se to go to an amusement park.

    However, it does seem like they are trying to send a message here.  I wonder whose idea it was to publicize this, and what is it that they want SSPX parishioners to take away from it?

    It's a bit reminiscent of the Novus Ordo.
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    « Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 07:20:32 PM »
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    • I was recently reading my boys a book about St. John Bosco.  A boy asked him what is it that we are allowed to do in this world.  He replied "Anything but sin".  I'm not so sure I see anything sinful here.  Some could say that St. John Bosco was acting beyond the dignity of a priest by his circus acts and high wire performances.
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    « Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 07:20:51 PM »
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    • I thought when a man became a priest he gave up worldly pursuits...one doesn't need much more in the way of evidence that the sspx has changed its course.
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    « Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 07:23:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: bernadette
    I thought when a man became a priest he gave up worldly pursuits...one doesn't need much more in the way of evidence that the sspx has changed its course.


    It makes people think:

    Priests are just like the rest of us, interested in banal entertainment.
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    « Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 07:30:48 PM »
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    • These were words of advice of Pope St. Pius X to Priests on the need for priestly dignity and propriety at the beginning of the last century:

    “In order never to be guilty of any unedifying act, the priest must regulate his actions, his movements and his habits in harmony with the sublimity of his vocation. He who on the altar almost ceases to be mortal and takes on a divine form, remains always the same, even when he comes down from the holy hill and leaves the temple of the Lord. Wherever he is, wherever he goes, he never ceases to be a priest, and the serious reasons that compel him always to be grave and appropriate accompany him with his dignity everywhere.

    “Hence he must have that gravity that will ensure that his words, his bearing, and his way of working arouse love, win authority and excite reverence. For, the very reasons that oblige him to be holy make it a duty for him to show it by his outward acts in order to edify all those with whom he is obliged to come into contact. A composed and dignified exterior is a powerful eloquence which wins souls in a much more efficacious manner than persuasive sermons. Nothing inspires greater confidence than an ecclesiastic who, never forgetting the dignity of his state, demonstrates in every situation that gravity which attracts and wins universal homage.

    “If, on the contrary, he forgets the holiness of the sacred character which he bears indelibly impressed and engraved on his souls, and if he fails to show in his outward conduct a gravity superior to that of certain men of the world, then he causes his ministry and religion itself to be despised. For when gravity is wanting in its leaders, the people lose respect and veneration for them.” (1)
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    « Reply #10 on: March 08, 2013, 07:31:28 PM »
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    • In the article it says:
    "Being a man, a priest needs to take recreation occasionally, to renew and refresh his body and soul."

    I have to ask...is this the kind of recreation for a priest?  How about golfing instead?  And aren't theme park rides for people who like thrills? I guess that means priests like to get thrills...
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    « Reply #11 on: March 08, 2013, 07:33:59 PM »
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    • King Louis of France to an unknown prelate:

    "Monsigneur, when I hear your sermons I am terrified.  But when I see your way of life I am reassured."

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    « Reply #12 on: March 08, 2013, 08:57:17 PM »
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    • It cannot be denied that priests, like every other good Catholic, do need social time with one another.  Amusement parks, however, are places where good Catholics must question whether they and their families will come under near occasions of sin due to the dress of women in attendance.  

    One need only take a stroll around such places of amusement such as this to see women in tank tops, shorts and other skin revealing clothing.  It is surprising and sad for me to see SSPX priests seek out such places to amuse themselves.  I am very disappointed.  Even worse, the SSPX features the priests in this article in an attempt mainstream their bahavior.  
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    « Reply #13 on: March 08, 2013, 09:02:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nickolas
    It cannot be denied that priests, like every other good Catholic, do need social time with one another.  Amusement parks, however, are places where good Catholics must question whether they and their families will come under near occasions of sin due to the dress of women in attendance.  

    One need only take a stroll around such places of amusement such as this to see women in tank tops, shorts and other skin revealing clothing.  It is surprising and sad for me to see SSPX priests seek out such places to amuse themselves.  I am very disappointed.  Even worse, the SSPX features the priests in this article in an attempt mainstream their bahavior.  


    In all honesty, you see the same thing at the grocery store...
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    « Reply #14 on: March 08, 2013, 09:10:40 PM »
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    • You have to go to the grocery store...you don't have to go to an amusement park...
    unless you're seeking to be "like regular folks"
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