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Re: SSPX Expanding NFP?
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2019, 02:09:18 PM »
5. It's the father's fault, because he works too much.

Re: SSPX Expanding NFP?
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2019, 02:31:06 PM »
5. It's the father's fault, because he works too much.

Good catch.

He makes it sound as though only the women carry the cross in a large family.
Is not a father just as likely to suffer a nervous breakdown as the mother?

But what percent of trad parents wig out like Fr. Couture relates?  0.05%?  I have yet to meet a trad homeschooling mom who suffered a nervous breakdown.

These priests, under the pretext of compassion, are stealing the woman’s crowning glory.

And is it really true that because the people are weaker constitutionally/psychologically than previous generations, the bar for childbearing must be lowered?  Or is it that because the priests are weaker than their predecessors, they keep lowering the bar and weakening us?  The reforms under Pius XII (fasting/abstinence modifications, turkey indults, etc), and then the further relaxation of discipline at and after Vatican II suggest the latter.

The author of the Imitation says, “Had there been an easier way, we might have taken it.”  

But he was not suggesting shirking the essence of the married vocation.

Our priests are getting softer, and they are softening us.

The large Catholic family is the norm, and anyone who says otherwise is antichrist.

As regards SSPX schools, yes, Catholic schools are the norm.  But amidst all the compromises of the SSPX, I began to fear personal negligence in giving a group with ideas so opposed to my own (and Lefebvre’s) so much influence and time with my children.

This is NOT the same old SSPX.  This is the SSPX of “prudent” NFP, books supporting young earth theory, denial of the historicity of scripture, defending the new communion ecclesiology, and all the rest.

If Fr. Couture wants to appeal to the stress of the mother, and use that as a lever against the father against his decision to homeschool, then perhaps the SSPX priests need to take a look in the mirror, rather that at the father, and consider why fathers are not allowing their children to attend their schools.

Which is all another way of saying that it is the priests fault the mothers are burning out, if their schools aren’t catholic enough to win the trust of the fathers.


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Re: SSPX Expanding NFP?
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2019, 03:34:35 PM »
5. It's the father's fault, because he works too much.

Yes, this is total feminist crap.  Often fathers have no choice but to work long hours to support their family.  Padre Pio's father left the family and worked in America for long periods of time.  Fathers have the primarily responsibility to provide for the family, while the upbringing of the children is primarily the mother's responsibility (under guidance of the father).

Re: SSPX Expanding NFP?
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2019, 03:57:51 PM »
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books supporting young earth theory

What's wrong with this? Most, if not all, Catholics believed in a "young Earth" until the 19th or 20th century.

Re: SSPX Expanding NFP?
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2019, 04:02:09 PM »
Fr. Couture: “Hello Your Superholiness, this is Fr. Couture.”

Francis: “Ah yes, Mr. Couture, how are you?”

Fr. Couture: “Holiness, you know how you hate Catholics to ‘breed like rabbits?’  Well, I have found a great angle to promote a more ecologically friendly Catholicism amongst tears (the worst offenders of overpopulation):  [repeat all that has been said above].”

Francis: “Very good, Mr. Couture.  But talk is cheap.  If you want to demonstrate the SSPX’s integral conciliarism, we must see measurable decline in family size.”

Fr. Couture: “But holiness...”

Francis: “Please, call me Jorge.”

Fr. Couture: “Ok, Jorge, isn’t it enough that we are changing Mass postures and increasing the number of dialogue Masses; that we are ecuмenical/tradcuмenical; that we accept Vatican II as part of tradition; etc?  Look, this Sean Johnson guy filled 400 pages with all the changes we have made!”

Francis: “Thats all a very good start, Mr. Couture, but we both know you have not arrived at the final phase of your conversion: Thus far you have tried to hide these changes from your people.  This implies that they will not yet accept these changes, had they perceived them.  You recall Fr. Cottier’s observation regarding Campos?  He said, ‘What is important is that there no longer be Resistance in their hearts.’  Bishop Riga’s demonstrates that lack of resistance when he repeatedly concelebrated the new Mass.”

Fr. Couture: But holiness, et, Jorge, we need a deal before we die outside the Church!

Francis: (Smiling menacingly) “Then I think you know what you have to do.”

Fr. Couture: “Yes, Jorge.  I know what we have to do.”