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Offline DirigeNos

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Re: SSPX excomm fallout is everywhere
« Reply #15 on: Today at 05:06:57 AM »
I'm not seeing a great fallout. The majority of SSPX parishioners seem to be rallying around around their priests. In fact, some Mass centers seem more crowded. I don't know if this is because of the publicity or what, but I think it's a good sign. I would hope that people know why they are there and why there is no penalty for seeking the true sacraments.


https://www.kens5.com/article/life/faith/san-antonio-sunday-mass-popes-excommunication-society-saint-pius-x-leaders/273-169a146a-0c8c-4b14-875d-1e34c79665af 


"San Antonio parishioners attend Sunday Mass despite pope's excommunication of Society of Saint Pius X leaders"

"Many worshippers at St. Joseph’s Roman Catholic Chapel said they attended Sunday Mass out of faith and tradition, despite guidance from the Archdiocese.

SAN ANTONIO — The first Sunday after Pope Leo excommunicated leaders of the Society of Saint Pius X drew a full parking lot at St. Joseph’s Roman Catholic Chapel on San Antonio’s north side, despite a directive from Archbishop Gustavo García-Siller urging Catholics not to attend Mass there.

Cars lined the street Sunday morning as parishioners arrived for the 7:30 a.m. service.

Most people who spoke with KENS 5 outside the chapel said neither the pope’s action nor the archbishop’s warning changed their decision to worship there. Several said attending Mass is a longstanding tradition, while others said they simply felt called by God to be there.

On Friday, Archbishop García-Siller instructed local Catholics not to attend services at the chapel, saying the Society of Saint Pius X's recent actions "have deeply wounded the unity of the Church."

The archbishop's statement followed Pope Leo's decision to excommunicate leaders of the traditionalist Catholic society after it consecrated four bishops without papal approval.

None of the parishioners who spoke with KENS 5 agreed to appear on camera, but several shared their reactions.

One man said he believes the pope is unfairly targeting the society. Another parishioner said he respects Pope Leo but was not persuaded to stay away from Sunday Mass.

On Friday, leaders of the Society of Saint Pius X defended the consecrations, saying they were motivated by "nothing other than an extraordinary initiative for the salvation of souls, amidst the doctrinal and moral confusion into which the church is plunged."  "


Offline Stubborn

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Re: SSPX excomm fallout is everywhere
« Reply #16 on: Today at 05:43:18 AM »
No ... and these latest events have completely unmasked the infiltrators, and yet ... Father Pagliarani STILL doesn't see it.
No, you are wrong. I think it's just that he understands that nobody can be validly excommunicated by a pope, council or angel for that matter, for preserving the faith. That's really all there is to it.

The big difference between this time and 1988 is that now we have the internet. Other than that, it's pretty much the same batch of conciliar bs, only more of it.


Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #17 on: Today at 06:46:13 AM »
No, you are wrong. I think it's just that he understands that nobody can be validly excommunicated by a pope, council or angel for that matter, for preserving the faith. That's really all there is to it.

The big difference between this time and 1988 is that now we have the internet. Other than that, it's pretty much the same batch of conciliar bs, only more of it.

Did you even read Father Pagliarani's letter?

There's nothing remotely similar about these two incidents.  Father Girouard hits the nail on the head, and actually echoes what I've been saying all along, namely, that the reliance upon legal loopoholes and technicalities vs. the attitude of Archbishop Lefebvre, SSPX have still not figured it out.

1988:  "Excommunicated from what?  Excommunicated by whom?"

2026:  "Not REALLY excommunicated from [the Catholic Church]."

If you can't figure this out, you're hopeless.

As Bishop Williamson always taught ... IDEAS MATTER.  Materially, the end result is the same, SSPX disobeyed / defied Conciliar Rome, but, formally, the attitude and the reasoning are completely different.

This addresses the nonsense from that other thread about ... Are the SSPX truly Resistance now?  Clearly, based on Father Pagliarani's letter, not even close.

But the hope is that, as time goes on, and they stop desperately TRYING to appease the Conciliars with the hope of being welcomed by the Modernist heretics with open arms ... perhaps their minds will clear, well, those minds that aren't actually deliberate controlled opposition.

Offline Stubborn

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« Reply #18 on: Today at 07:19:16 AM »
Here is the letter

Nowhere does it say anything remotely like: "2026:  Not REALLY excommunicated from [the Catholic Church]."

I think he could have sent a much stronger letter, yet, to what end? IMO, what the letter essentially says is, "ok, you unjustly excommunicated us, well, we're not changing." 

"....Despite the sanctions leveled against us, the Society of Saint Pius X sincerely renews the promise it has already expressed to Your Holiness. Allow me, in this regard, to freely reiterate what I have previously stated...."  





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« Reply #19 on: Today at 08:33:53 AM »
Here is the letter

Nowhere does it say anything remotely like: "2026: Not REALLY excommunicated from [the Catholic Church]."

I think he could have sent a much stronger letter, yet, to what end? IMO, what the letter essentially says is, "ok, you unjustly excommunicated us, well, we're not changing."

"....Despite the sanctions leveled against us, the Society of Saint Pius X sincerely renews the promise it has already expressed to Your Holiness. Allow me, in this regard, to freely reiterate what I have previously stated...." 
Agreed. I thought the letter was good enough