Author Topic: SSPX Donations Down? (Read 11149 times)

Maria Elizabeth · « **on:** August 04, 2012, 03:40:27 PM »

Viva Cristo Rey said:
It is terrible what they did to further destroy the Catholic. I don't want to see it happen to SSPX.

The SSPX needs to grow and expand in order to save more souls and lead them to be in Heaven with God. We need more new seminarians and new chapels.

It is a sin to God to not ordain new seminarians too or build new chapels.

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Neil Obstat replied to Viva Cristo Rey:

You know, there are already a lot of vacant chapels around, so having to build new
ones shouldn't be a foregone conclusion. A bit of renovation is a lot cheaper than
new construction.

What's really a crime is all the demolition of the beautiful, old churches that our
ancestors paid for with the sweat of their poor brow. I've seen plenty of that. We
should docuмent what we know. There must be a hot place in hell for the
wreckovationists.

And therefore, it's going to be all the more difficult now to get people excited about
fundraising for the SSPX projects when +Fellay is acting like he's ready to turn over
the titles to the local Bishops.

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One of the priests in my local chapel made the comment that donations have declined significantly [in the SSPX, as a whole, not just our local chapel]. He was questioning whether there would be enough funds to finish the new SSPX seminary in Virginia.

I have also spoken to some fellow parishioners who said they are sending their tithes elsewhere, where they know they will be used well (by a truly traditional priest).

John Grace · « **Reply #1 on:** August 04, 2012, 03:58:32 PM »

The SSPX have only themselves to blame. I certainly wouldn't give the Society any of my money.I actually find it remarkable they still expect people to give them money.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #2 on:** August 04, 2012, 04:15:27 PM »

This is particularly true since the SSPX seems to constantly engage in these negotiations with NewChurch.

The SSPX, as a complete organization, must learn that patience is a virtue. They must wait. Wait. Do nothing in regards to the novus ordo.

Wait.

If the novus ordo returns to tradition and Vatican II is declared null and void, then approach the Pope humbly and return. If these things do not happen, carry on with business as usual.

Incredulous · « **Reply #3 on:** August 04, 2012, 05:33:15 PM »

Quote from: John Grace

The SSPX have only themselves to blame. I certainly wouldn't give the Society any of my money.I actually find it remarkable they still expect people to give them money.

Ah, but don't you want to contribute to their $30million seminary fund?
During the doctirnal negotiations charade last Spring, Fr. LeRoux was going
all over the country asking us to fund it.

From 2008, without any disclosure to the faithful, Bp. Fellay started his European investment companies and hired a zionist to manage them.

The SSPX investment companies are in the public records. See:
http://thoughtactioneire.blogspot.com/2010/12/timeline-of-dello-sarto-ag.html

How does anyone know where our donations really go? There should be an SSPX audit with disclosure to the faithful explaining how SSPX funds are spent.

Bp. Fellay is said to be an accountant. Well then, there's no reason why he shouldn't be held accountable to explain the SSPX's finances.

Incredulous · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2012, 05:53:02 PM »

Quote from: John Grace

The SSPX have only themselves to blame. I certainly wouldn't give the Society any of my money.I actually find it remarkable they still expect people to give them money.

Last week, it was reported that the SSPX Sacramento, CA chapel was way-off on donations and not meeting their basic expenses.

Two factors appear to be contributing to the problem:

1. A bad economy with high unemployment.
2. The faithful think the SSPX is on the verge of a Conciliar sell-out.

If the Superior General would concentrate on taking care of the Faith and his faitfhul instead of kissing-up to newChurch, factor #2 would be eliminated.

Better yet, if the Superior General would resign and the Menzingen headquarters hung a sign: "Under New Management", SSPX donations would be sure to rebound.

John Grace · « **Reply #5 on:** August 05, 2012, 05:07:09 AM »

Quote from: Incredulous

Quote from: John Grace
The SSPX have only themselves to blame. I certainly wouldn't give the Society any of my money.I actually find it remarkable they still expect people to give them money.

Ah, but don't you want to contribute to their $30million seminary fund?
During the doctirnal negotiations charade last Spring, Fr. LeRoux was going
all over the country asking us to fund it.

From 2008, without any disclosure to the faithful, Bp. Fellay started his European investment companies and hired a zionist to manage them.

The SSPX investment companies are in the public records. See:
http://thoughtactioneire.blogspot.com/2010/12/timeline-of-dello-sarto-ag.html

How does anyone know where our donations really go? There should be an SSPX audit with disclosure to the faithful explaining how SSPX funds are spent.

Bp. Fellay is said to be an accountant. Well then, there's no reason why he shouldn't be held accountable to explain the SSPX's finances.

:applause: Has a supporter of Bishop Fellay and his gang disliked your comment?

John Grace · « **Reply #6 on:** August 05, 2012, 05:17:17 AM »

Of course the Society purchased the historic Court Devenish House in Ireland. This will be a new priory and retreat house. Refurbishment works are expected to cost 300,000 euro.

clarkaim · « **Reply #7 on:** August 05, 2012, 03:29:47 PM »

Quote from: Incredulous

Quote from: John Grace
The SSPX have only themselves to blame. I certainly wouldn't give the Society any of my money.I actually find it remarkable they still expect people to give them money.

Ah, but don't you want to contribute to their $30million seminary fund?
During the doctirnal negotiations charade last Spring, Fr. LeRoux was going
all over the country asking us to fund it.

From 2008, without any disclosure to the faithful, Bp. Fellay started his European investment companies and hired a zionist to manage them.

The SSPX investment companies are in the public records. See:
http://thoughtactioneire.blogspot.com/2010/12/timeline-of-dello-sarto-ag.html

How does anyone know where our donations really go? There should be an SSPX audit with disclosure to the faithful explaining how SSPX funds are spent.

Bp. Fellay is said to be an accountant. Well then, there's no reason why he shouldn't be held accountable to explain the SSPX's finances.

given how good the yids are with money, is this such a bad thing? perhaps make good on investents and make more CA$H

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #8 on:** August 05, 2012, 08:33:04 PM »

Maybe if donations decrease enough, Bishop Fellay and his ilk will get their act together out of desparation.

Incredulous · « **Reply #9 on:** August 06, 2012, 02:07:30 PM »

Quote from: clarkaim

Quote from: Incredulous
Quote from: John Grace
The SSPX have only themselves to blame. I certainly wouldn't give the Society any of my money.I actually find it remarkable they still expect people to give them money.

Ah, but don't you want to contribute to their $30million seminary fund?
During the doctirnal negotiations charade last Spring, Fr. LeRoux was going
all over the country asking us to fund it.

From 2008, without any disclosure to the faithful, Bp. Fellay started his European investment companies and hired a zionist to manage them.

The SSPX investment companies are in the public records. See:
http://thoughtactioneire.blogspot.com/2010/12/timeline-of-dello-sarto-ag.html

How does anyone know where our donations really go? There should be an SSPX audit with disclosure to the faithful explaining how SSPX funds are spent.

Bp. Fellay is said to be an accountant. Well then, there's no reason why he shouldn't be held accountable to explain the SSPX's finances.

given how good the yids are with money, is this such a bad thing? perhaps make good on investents and make more CA$H

C'mon... So are you saying its okay for the SSPX to bring in a zio-lawyer to start an investment company using SSPX donations to speculate in the market? That's bowing down to mammon and the money changers in the Temple.

If it was a normal thing to do, why didn't Msgr. Fellay disclose it to the SSPX faithful? Why couldn't the SSPX faithful invest in his little company(s) too ?

The answer is Msgr. Fellay knows his actions were improper and that's why he's hiding it and won't discuss it.

The odds are, if the SSPX Menzingen underwent an impartial audit and the results were published, Msgr. Fellay would be forced to resign or expelled the next day.

This attitude, that anything is okay as long as Bp.Fellay endorses it is part of his personality cult. Its dangerous and certainly not "reality based".

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #10 on:** August 06, 2012, 02:30:38 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

This is particularly true since the SSPX seems to constantly engage in these negotiations with NewChurch.

The SSPX, as a complete organization, must learn that patience is a virtue. They must wait. Wait. Do nothing in regards to the novus ordo.

Wait.

If the novus ordo returns to tradition and Vatican II is declared null and void, then approach the Pope humbly and return. If these things do not happen, carry on with business as usual.

Your approach, CaptMQ, is identical to that explained by Bishop Tissier de
Mallerais. He has consistently, through the years, preached a steady, calm and
reasoned explanation of the errors of Vatican II and NewChurch, saying that we
can have no part in this error, this heresy, and we must wait.

It seems to me that some of his words are lost on the American audience, though,
because of his accent, that is, a lot of Americans "switch off their hearing" when
they encounter a French accent. Also his style of wording is like translated from
French, so we don't really get the full value of his message when we hear it -- that
is, beyond the pronunciation problem, but the choice of words itself. If we can get
his sermon in writing and read it, then we can figure it out okay, but who's going
to go to that trouble? It's so much easier to say, "I don't understand French." I
know people who complain the "whole thing was in French" when they go to one
of his Masses, because even his Latin he pronounces with a French inflection. I
know this is blatant ignorance, but I'm here to say that it's out there.

If he has fans, like you and me, Capt., we can do our part. And you are doing
very well here, by putting this teaching into very clear words. "Carry on with
business as usual!" Very well said.

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Maybe if donations decrease enough, Bishop Fellay and his ilk will get their act together out of desparation.

One might well hope! And then again, if he does seem to "get his act together,"
only to later turn and defect once more, to coin a phrase, "it wouldn't be the
first time!" He has already shown his true colors. He has committed the ultimate
crime of disloyalty to the PRINCIPLES handed down to him from ABL. It's over.

Quote from: Incredulous

Quote from: Pablo
Donate Funds to:

Father Joseph Pfeiffer

1730 N. Stillwell Road

Boston, Kentucky 40107

They are tax deductible.

You may send a check or money order to him, or you may make it to

Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church.

Same address as above.

Support the persecuted Priests; support the Faith.

Pray and do penance.

Viva Cristo Rey!

R:

En mi corazon, en mi casa, y en mi patria!

(In my heart, in my home, and in my Country).

The Official Cristero response.

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Thank you for the address and the reminder Pablo!
I'm batching my Sunday donations originally intended for my chapel
They will go to the priest's fund in KY.

Viva la Virgin de Guadalupe!

Here is where our loyalty belongs.
Cut the chains that bind, while there is still time. Let the Modernists hear what
the Faith says to the Churches. Support Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church.

You might not live to see tomorrow.

Let us sing while we have breath: Praise to God eternal!
Praise the victor over death: Praise to God eternal!
Glory to the Father, glory to the Son,
Glory to the Holy Ghost; Praise to God forever!
-- Richard Keyes Biggs, organist, composer, conductor, Hollywood,
Blessed Sacrament Church, in the Age of Faith, and in our memory.

Father Joseph Pfeiffer

1730 N. Stillwell Road

Boston, Kentucky 40107

En mi corazon, en mi casa, y en mi patria!

Maria Elizabeth · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2012, 01:26:57 AM »

Quote from: Pablo

Donate Funds to:

Father Joseph Pfeiffer

1730 N. Stillwell Road

Boston, Kentucky 40107

They are tax deductible.

You may send a check or money order to him, or you may make it to

Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church.

Same address as above.

Support the persecuted Priests; support the Faith.

Pray and do penance.

Viva Cristo Rey!

R:

En mi corazon, en mi casa, y en mi patria!

(In my heart, in my home, and in my Country).

The Official Cristero response.

*

Pablo, in order to have donations be tax deductible, they must be made out to a non-profit, charitable organization, NOT an individual person.

That is, you cannot claim donations made out to priests on your tax return. The IRS will disallow these donations if you are audited and then will fine you.

Donations made out to a Church (Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church) should be fine, since the Church is a non-profit, charitable organization.

Belloc · « **Reply #12 on:** August 08, 2012, 07:59:16 AM »

SSPX problem is not the divide, but that they had the termity to go and preach to non-whites and inter-mingle with them. Should have kept the mision only to whites, who we know :rolleyes: :wink: are the only ones capable of, well, doing anything. We whites alone have free will and grace sufficient for the mission :rolleyes: :wink:

SSPX problems ,due to non-white clergy and non-white mission.....clearly :wink: Fellay is somehwo, somewhere a non-white, hence, he cannot control himself....but is none the less, guilty of, well, something.....

Belloc · « **Reply #13 on:** August 08, 2012, 08:04:01 AM »

Quote from: Incredulous

Viva la Virgin de Guadalupe![/color]

actually, no, cannot be a legit apparition, as she appeard as an Indian nd to indians, a sub-human race (right Alaric?)

a real Marian apparition would have appeared only to whites and clearly :wink: would have included a dire warning agaisnt race mixing, as it would just plunge the world into chaos (just like Bob Jones warned us about).........I fully expect the sun to go nova soon.....

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #14 on:** August 09, 2012, 06:52:12 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

SSPX problem is not the divide, but that they had the termity to go and preach to non-whites and inter-mingle with them. Should have kept the mision only to whites, who we know :rolleyes: :wink: are the only ones capable of, well, doing anything. We whites alone have free will and grace sufficient for the mission :rolleyes: :wink:

SSPX problems ,due to non-white clergy and non-white mission.....clearly :wink: Fellay is somehwo, somewhere a non-white, hence, he cannot control himself....but is none the less, guilty of, well, something.....

Belloc,

What a stupid and tasteless comment even in jest! The Japanese along kept the Faith alive for 200 years in the past without priests, let alone bishops. What have Indult conservatives of your ilk kept? Nothing... the crumbs you have at your Indult is thanks to the Traditionalists work. The dioceses will give you a Mass to keep you from attending SSPX and Independent chapels that you would not attend in the first place.